My Number one reason for wanting to buy the K3S
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Hi folks,
As I save up for my radio I'm doing a lot of research and educational reading about radios. This morning the lightbulb came on as to WHY the K3S is the best choice. You see, I used to run my own computer company and OEM my own computers. One of the largest frustrations for customers was having a new computer which is outdated in 6-12 months. Features or technologies come out that would force you to purchase an entirely new computer to get those features/technologies if you wanted/needed them. Enter the Elecraft K3 Platform. So not only are we able to buy some of the best technology available at the time; we are able to update over time as technology and features as they develop. For me that's huge. I consider the Kenwood TS-850s I had during my first go around in the hobby. Today, it would be considered a good radio but lacking because of the design and unavailable technologies (DSP hello??). I do wish I could obtain my K3S at lower cost but I understand supply vs demand and prices are always set at the highest level the market will bear. The prices reflect a high demand which I would expect to continue. Why buy built in obsolescence when you can buy open upgradability? You could try to argue that the price is too high. That you can almost buy two radios with similar specs for the cost of one base model K3*. Maybe you can, however, What happens to the value of that radio when new technology comes out? Yep, you guessed it, the manufacturer comes out with a new model and the value of your current model drops like a hot rock. Now let's look at the K* models. The previous version (the K3) is STILL holding value as far as I can see based on the sales postings. I'm not sure what they were new but from what I've seen they are $2000 used with NO WARRANTY, mostly upgradable to the current model (as far as I can tell the things that can't be updated are minor), and are STILL ranked high on the list of testing specs being compared to current new models from other manf. In conclusion. Why not buy a radio that can grow with you and change as the technology or your needs change? I don't work for Elecraft or any of it's affiliates. This is just my ramblings based on what I have experienced and what I see. I'm still saving up lint and bits of colored paper to purchase my new K3S at the Shelby NC Hamfest at the end of this month. It's going to be a terribly close race and I'll be getting the barebones model. .. es 73 Jer AE4PB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Jer,
Your post is well put. I would further add these positive points for Elecraft: 1) Modular design allows one to start with a more basic radio and upgrade as ones needs and means allow. For some the second receiver is just not needed. 2) The radios are stated are upgraded and this has been an on-going process for seven or eight years now. Another USA manufacturer started this way but dropped the ball. 3) Eric, Wayne, Lyle and other design engineers are available on the forum to answer questions if they are not otherwise handled. We know the forum is monitored and responded to. 4) Tech support is excellent from California. 5) The Sherwood and other independent tests indicate that indeed this radio is one of the best on the market. 6) "True" diversity reception can be achieved and this is an advantage for some though of course expensive. I really do not have anything negative to say. 73 Doug EI2CN -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jerry Moore Sent: 05 August 2015 12:54 To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] My Number one reason for wanting to buy the K3S Hi folks, As I save up for my radio I'm doing a lot of research and educational reading about radios. This morning the lightbulb came on as to WHY the K3S is the best choice. You see, I used to run my own computer company and OEM my own computers. One of the largest frustrations for customers was having a new computer which is outdated in 6-12 months. Features or technologies come out that would force you to purchase an entirely new computer to get those features/technologies if you wanted/needed them. Enter the Elecraft K3 Platform. So not only are we able to buy some of the best technology available at the time; we are able to update over time as technology and features as they develop. For me that's huge. I consider the Kenwood TS-850s I had during my first go around in the hobby. Today, it would be considered a good radio but lacking because of the design and unavailable technologies (DSP hello??). I do wish I could obtain my K3S at lower cost but I understand supply vs demand and prices are always set at the highest level the market will bear. The prices reflect a high demand which I would expect to continue. Why buy built in obsolescence when you can buy open upgradability? You could try to argue that the price is too high. That you can almost buy two radios with similar specs for the cost of one base model K3*. Maybe you can, however, What happens to the value of that radio when new technology comes out? Yep, you guessed it, the manufacturer comes out with a new model and the value of your current model drops like a hot rock. Now let's look at the K* models. The previous version (the K3) is STILL holding value as far as I can see based on the sales postings. I'm not sure what they were new but from what I've seen they are $2000 used with NO WARRANTY, mostly upgradable to the current model (as far as I can tell the things that can't be updated are minor), and are STILL ranked high on the list of testing specs being compared to current new models from other manf. In conclusion. Why not buy a radio that can grow with you and change as the technology or your needs change? I don't work for Elecraft or any of it's affiliates. This is just my ramblings based on what I have experienced and what I see. I'm still saving up lint and bits of colored paper to purchase my new K3S at the Shelby NC Hamfest at the end of this month. It's going to be a terribly close race and I'll be getting the barebones model. .. es 73 Jer AE4PB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On Wed,8/5/2015 5:54 AM, Jerry Moore wrote:
> I do wish I could obtain my K3S at lower cost but I understand supply vs > demand and prices are always set at the highest level the market will bear. > The prices reflect a high demand which I would expect to continue. From my perspective as a close observer and retired from running a small business, it appears to me that Elecraft sets prices at the level needed to stay in business while maintaining the quality of current and future products and the quality of product support. Elecraft is owned by two engineers, both of whom are moderately active on the ham bands. I've seen Eric's home -- it's nice, but modest. I suspect the same of Wayne. These are not your big biz moguls. I own three K3s, three P3s, a KPA500, two KAT500s, and a loaded KX3/KXPA100 rig. Two of those K3s are 2007 vintage, and one has been serviced several times. The KPA500 was serviced last month. Service has been good and costs have been reasonable. Last week, a ham posted an invoice for repair by the new owners of Ten Tec for his Orion II. It was just short of $1K. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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"Last week, a ham posted an invoice for repair by the new owners of Ten
Tec for his Orion II. It was just short of $1K" Unless we know what work was required, it is impossible to tell if the $1k bill is outrageous, extremely fair, or something in between. I would be be careful not to read too much into this. Plus, what can we make based on a sample of "one". We really don't need to bash other companies in an effort to make Elecraft look good by comparison - especially without knowing the details of the billing used for comparison. Elecraft stands on its own. 73, Bob/AA6VB From: Jim Brown <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My Number one reason for wanting to buy the K3S On Wed,8/5/2015 5:54 AM, Jerry Moore wrote: > I do wish I could obtain my K3S at lower cost but I understand supply vs > demand and prices are always set at the highest level the market will bear. > The prices reflect a high demand which I would expect to continue. From my perspective as a close observer and retired from running a small business, it appears to me that Elecraft sets prices at the level needed to stay in business while maintaining the quality of current and future products and the quality of product support. Elecraft is owned by two engineers, both of whom are moderately active on the ham bands. I've seen Eric's home -- it's nice, but modest. I suspect the same of Wayne. These are not your big biz moguls. I own three K3s, three P3s, a KPA500, two KAT500s, and a loaded KX3/KXPA100 rig. Two of those K3s are 2007 vintage, and one has been serviced several times. The KPA500 was serviced last month. Service has been good and costs have been reasonable. Last week, a ham posted an invoice for repair by the new owners of Ten Tec for his Orion II. It was just short of $1K. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Bob makes a good point. Not knowing the specific facts surrounding the
Orion II repair required, I believe it improper to comment or draw any conclusion on the topic from any perspective. Although as an owner and user of an Orion II, Omni VII, Eagle and Argonaut VI and one that has repaired lots of Tentec, ICOM, Kenwood and Yaesu products in years past, I seriously doubt that the repair, to any notable extent, of an Elecraft product today would be much if any different in terms of expense. Some years back I assembled a K3/10 and a K3/100 for others. I do have a clue as to what's inside the box. The parts and boards aren't inexpensive and the labor is increasing in costs all the time. We have a saying locally which I view applies; "if one can't run and keep up with the big dogs, then they best stay under the porch". Just like buying a boat, if one has to inquire as to how much fuel it consumes, it is then reasonably clear they don't have adequate funds to make the purchase. I now have an Elecraft K3S on order and waiting and looking forward to its arrival. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 8/5/2015 4:04 PM, Chortek Bob via Elecraft wrote: > "Last week, a ham posted an invoice for repair by the new owners of Ten > Tec for his Orion II. It was just short of $1K" > Unless we know what work was required, it is impossible to tell if the $1k bill is outrageous, extremely fair, or something in between. > I would be be careful not to read too much into this. Plus, what can we make based on a sample of "one". > We really don't need to bash other companies in an effort to make Elecraft look good by comparison - especially without knowing the details of the billing used for comparison. Elecraft stands on its own. > 73, > Bob/AA6VB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On Wed,8/5/2015 5:47 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
> We really don't need to bash other companies in an effort to make > Elecraft look good by comparison - especially without knowing the > details of the billing used for comparison. Elecraft stands on its own. I made the original comment, and I was not "bashing" anyone. TenTec replaced an entire board and some individual components. I've had Elecraft troubleshoot boards rather than replace them. Beginning in the 80s, I owned and liked Ten Tec transceivers, but learned the hard way that their service department is a profit center. I do not believe that to be true of Elecraft. Last month, Elecraft did replace a major board in my KPA500 because they deemed it unrepairable. The bill was under $400. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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The Service Department is being supported by someone, those Tech's
Don't work for free. Pay me here or pay me there, TINSTAAFL 73, Dick, W1KSZ -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 8:19 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My Number one reason for wanting to buy the K3S On Wed,8/5/2015 5:47 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: > We really don't need to bash other companies in an effort to make > Elecraft look good by comparison - especially without knowing the > details of the billing used for comparison. Elecraft stands on its own. I made the original comment, and I was not "bashing" anyone. TenTec replaced an entire board and some individual components. I've had Elecraft troubleshoot boards rather than replace them. Beginning in the 80s, I owned and liked Ten Tec transceivers, but learned the hard way that their service department is a profit center. I do not believe that to be true of Elecraft. Last month, Elecraft did replace a major board in my KPA500 because they deemed it unrepairable. The bill was under $400. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Had my first exposure with Elecraft service walking through a problem which led to a bad low power amp (LPA) output transistor along with repair & upgrade parts and prices. OUTSTANDING! W3OU Steve -----Original Message----- From: Richard W. Solomon <[hidden email]> To: elecraft <[hidden email]> Sent: Thu, Aug 6, 2015 1:27 am Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My Number one reason for wanting to buy the K3S The Service Department is being supported by someone, those Tech's Don't work for free. Pay me here or pay me there, TINSTAAFL 73, Dick, W1KSZ -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 8:19 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My Number one reason for wanting to buy the K3S On Wed,8/5/2015 5:47 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: > We really don't need to bash other companies in an effort to make > Elecraft look good by comparison - especially without knowing the > details of the billing used for comparison. Elecraft stands on its own. I made the original comment, and I was not "bashing" anyone. TenTec replaced an entire board and some individual components. I've had Elecraft troubleshoot boards rather than replace them. Beginning in the 80s, I owned and liked Ten Tec transceivers, but learned the hard way that their service department is a profit center. I do not believe that to be true of Elecraft. Last month, Elecraft did replace a major board in my KPA500 because they deemed it unrepairable. The bill was under $400. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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The compelling "got-to-have" picture on the home page.
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On 8/5/2015 10:19 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> On Wed,8/5/2015 5:47 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: >> We really don't need to bash other companies in an effort to make >> Elecraft look good by comparison - especially without knowing the >> details of the billing used for comparison. Elecraft stands on its own. > > I made the original comment, and I was not "bashing" anyone. TenTec > replaced an entire board and some individual components. I've had > Elecraft troubleshoot boards rather than replace them. Beginning in > the 80s, I owned and liked Ten Tec transceivers, but learned the hard > way that their service department is a profit center. I do not believe > that to be true of Elecraft. Last month, Elecraft did replace a major > board in my KPA500 because they deemed it unrepairable. The bill was > under $400. > > 73, Jim K9YC I have had several Ten Tec transceivers and liked them for their full break-in. They were the first solid state radios that I remember. I was content using my Omni, but I wanted a new radio for my last sun cycle. I had trouble deciding between another Ten Tec, or Elecraft. So, I made a phone call to both customer service departments and asked some questions. It was because of those phone calls that I bought a K3. Dick, n0ce ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Certainly depends on the board that needs to be replaced! We had a
KAT500 fail recently (out of a sudden) with diagnosis CPU dead. Only cure would be to change the board, cost factor almost 600 EUR. A new KAT500 is about 680 EUR including shipping and import taxes ... no deal. :-( 73, Olli Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de Am 06.08.2015 um 05:19 schrieb Jim Brown: > On Wed,8/5/2015 5:47 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: >> We really don't need to bash other companies in an effort to make >> Elecraft look good by comparison - especially without knowing the >> details of the billing used for comparison. Elecraft stands on its own. > > I made the original comment, and I was not "bashing" anyone. TenTec > replaced an entire board and some individual components. I've had > Elecraft troubleshoot boards rather than replace them. Beginning in > the 80s, I owned and liked Ten Tec transceivers, but learned the hard > way that their service department is a profit center. I do not believe > that to be true of Elecraft. Last month, Elecraft did replace a major > board in my KPA500 because they deemed it unrepairable. The bill was > under $400. > > 73, Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Who was going to charge you that, Oliver, Elecraft or one of the
European service centers? 73, Scott N9AA On 8/6/15 2:02 PM, Oliver Dröse wrote: > Certainly depends on the board that needs to be replaced! We had a > KAT500 fail recently (out of a sudden) with diagnosis CPU dead. Only > cure would be to change the board, cost factor almost 600 EUR. A new > KAT500 is about 680 EUR including shipping and import taxes ... no > deal. :-( > > 73, Olli > > Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de > > > Am 06.08.2015 um 05:19 schrieb Jim Brown: >> On Wed,8/5/2015 5:47 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: >>> We really don't need to bash other companies in an effort to make >>> Elecraft look good by comparison - especially without knowing the >>> details of the billing used for comparison. Elecraft stands on its >>> own. >> >> I made the original comment, and I was not "bashing" anyone. TenTec >> replaced an entire board and some individual components. I've had >> Elecraft troubleshoot boards rather than replace them. Beginning in >> the 80s, I owned and liked Ten Tec transceivers, but learned the hard >> way that their service department is a profit center. I do not >> believe that to be true of Elecraft. Last month, Elecraft did replace >> a major board in my KPA500 because they deemed it unrepairable. The >> bill was under $400. >> >> 73, Jim K9YC >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Italian service center after checking with Elecraft (as shipping from
Europe to Elecraft and back would cost half as much as a whole new KAT500 this is no option either, even if the replacement costs would have been considerably lower ... and Elecraft asks European customers to use the European service providers ... perfectly okay). But no worries, injurance paid it for the guy so no big loss after all for him. Just wanted to show that it always depends on what is defective. If you have several different PCBs in equipment it is certainly easier to just exchange single PCBs which will be cheaper as in Jim's example (or the K3 as another one). But it's not always that easy (as in my example) and might well have been the case with that Ten-Tec, too. One just has to put it into perspecitve ... 73, Olli Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de Am 06.08.2015 um 20:06 schrieb Scott Manthe: > Who was going to charge you that, Oliver, Elecraft or one of the > European service centers? > > 73, > Scott N9AA > > > On 8/6/15 2:02 PM, Oliver Dröse wrote: >> Certainly depends on the board that needs to be replaced! We had a >> KAT500 fail recently (out of a sudden) with diagnosis CPU dead. Only >> cure would be to change the board, cost factor almost 600 EUR. A new >> KAT500 is about 680 EUR including shipping and import taxes ... no >> deal. :-( >> >> 73, Olli >> >> Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de >> >> >> Am 06.08.2015 um 05:19 schrieb Jim Brown: >>> On Wed,8/5/2015 5:47 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: >>>> We really don't need to bash other companies in an effort to make >>>> Elecraft look good by comparison - especially without knowing the >>>> details of the billing used for comparison. Elecraft stands on its >>>> own. >>> >>> I made the original comment, and I was not "bashing" anyone. TenTec >>> replaced an entire board and some individual components. I've had >>> Elecraft troubleshoot boards rather than replace them. Beginning in >>> the 80s, I owned and liked Ten Tec transceivers, but learned the >>> hard way that their service department is a profit center. I do not >>> believe that to be true of Elecraft. Last month, Elecraft did >>> replace a major board in my KPA500 because they deemed it >>> unrepairable. The bill was under $400. >>> >>> 73, Jim K9YC >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [hidden email] >>> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Ladies & Gentlemen, boys & girls;
As with everything else in life, we can pay a premium price for premium quality oats, we can pay a moderate price for medium quality oats, or we can pay a lower price for second hand oats. Personally, I am more interested in the rigs, accessories, other goodies, and how to make all this work. 73 Lee N0RRL On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 11:22 PM, Richard W. Solomon <[hidden email]> wrote: > The Service Department is being supported by someone, those Tech's > Don't work for free. > > Pay me here or pay me there, > > TINSTAAFL > > 73, Dick, W1KSZ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jim > Brown > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 8:19 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My Number one reason for wanting to buy the K3S > > On Wed,8/5/2015 5:47 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: > > We really don't need to bash other companies in an effort to make > > Elecraft look good by comparison - especially without knowing the > > details of the billing used for comparison. Elecraft stands on its own. > > I made the original comment, and I was not "bashing" anyone. TenTec > replaced > an entire board and some individual components. I've had Elecraft > troubleshoot boards rather than replace them. Beginning in the 80s, I owned > and liked Ten Tec transceivers, but learned the hard way that their service > department is a profit center. I do not believe that to be true of > Elecraft. > Last month, Elecraft did replace a major board in my KPA500 because they > deemed it unrepairable. The bill was under $400. > > 73, Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message > delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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