N1MM & K3

[gdaught6]

Good evening to all.

I have a new computer, and I've installed N1MM logger.  My
question du jour is:

Has anyone used N1MM to provide CW keying via a COM port?  Is
it satisfactory?  Are there any "gotcha's"?

How about via the parallel port?  Is it satisfactory?  Are there any
"gotcha's" there??

I'm sure I will have more questions as I proceed.

73,

George T Daughters, K6GT
CU in the California QSO Party (CQP)
October 2-3, 2010


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[Jim AB3CV]

I've got the KUSB working with N1MM via the USB port using the 12/09
Prolific drivers from their website. ESC key interruption of CW is
working for me.

I'm using WinXP Home SP3 and latest K3 firmware.

goodluck

jim ab3cv
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[Vic K2VCO]

On 3/31/2010 4:54 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> Good evening to all.
>
> I have a new computer, and I've installed N1MM logger.  My
> question du jour is:
>
> Has anyone used N1MM to provide CW keying via a COM port?  Is
> it satisfactory?  Are there any "gotcha's"?

I'm using it with DTR keying. I've set CONFIG: PTT KEY to OFF-DTR and I have set N1MM to
key via the DTR line. I allow the VOX to do the t/r switching; it works with semi- and
full QSK. No connection is needed except for the regular RS232 cable between the computer
and the K3.

The only gotcha is that during bootup the computer toggles the DTR line several times. So
between contests I turn the CONFIG parameter off; and when it's on I'm careful to set TX
TEST whenever I boot the computer.

I'm using a 2.5 GHz single-core cpu running XP. I have absolutely no problems with the CW
generated by N1MM, but I don't use spotting or SO2R or anything fancy.
--
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
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[Julius Fazekas n2wn]

George,

Works like a champ, the only gotcha is not having the radio configured the same as the logging program. I use mine with both Win2K and XP, getting ready to set up a Windows 7 computer with it, but don't anticipate any serious issues.

Haven't tried the parallel port, but am planning on trying it for SO2R or RTTY control. Straight COM ports now, if you K3 utility program connects, you should be just fine.

73,
Julius

[km5ps]

On 3/31/2010 7:26 PM, Vic K2VCO wrote:
Vic
     I had asked the same question when I got my K3.  I tried using a
com port via usb cable but had problems.  sometimes it would work right
but not all of the time.
So I started using my Winkey and everything works great.  But I had
already purchased a Winkey for another radio, so had one on hand.
Hope that helped.

John

> On 3/31/2010 4:54 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>    
>> Good evening to all.
>>
>> I have a new computer, and I've installed N1MM logger.  My
>> question du jour is:
>>
>> Has anyone used N1MM to provide CW keying via a COM port?  Is
>> it satisfactory?  Are there any "gotcha's"?
>>      
> I'm using it with DTR keying. I've set CONFIG: PTT KEY to OFF-DTR and I have set N1MM to
> key via the DTR line. I allow the VOX to do the t/r switching; it works with semi- and
> full QSK. No connection is needed except for the regular RS232 cable between the computer
> and the K3.
>
> The only gotcha is that during bootup the computer toggles the DTR line several times. So
> between contests I turn the CONFIG parameter off; and when it's on I'm careful to set TX
> TEST whenever I boot the computer.
>
> I'm using a 2.5 GHz single-core cpu running XP. I have absolutely no problems with the CW
> generated by N1MM, but I don't use spotting or SO2R or anything fancy.
>    

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[Vic K2VCO]

I'm not the one who originally asked the question, but it's true that some USB adapters
may not work properly with this function. I have a real serial port on my computer, and
have had very good luck generating CW directly from N1MM.

But YMMV, especially with USB adapters.

On 3/31/2010 7:06 PM, john wrote:

> On 3/31/2010 7:26 PM, Vic K2VCO wrote:
> Vic
>       I had asked the same question when I got my K3.  I tried using a
> com port via usb cable but had problems.  sometimes it would work right
> but not all of the time.
> So I started using my Winkey and everything works great.  But I had
> already purchased a Winkey for another radio, so had one on hand.
> Hope that helped.
>
> John
>
>> On 3/31/2010 4:54 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>>
>>> Good evening to all.
>>>
>>> I have a new computer, and I've installed N1MM logger.  My
>>> question du jour is:
>>>
>>> Has anyone used N1MM to provide CW keying via a COM port?  Is
>>> it satisfactory?  Are there any "gotcha's"?
>>>
>> I'm using it with DTR keying. I've set CONFIG: PTT KEY to OFF-DTR and I have set N1MM to
>> key via the DTR line. I allow the VOX to do the t/r switching; it works with semi- and
>> full QSK. No connection is needed except for the regular RS232 cable between the computer
>> and the K3.
>>
>> The only gotcha is that during bootup the computer toggles the DTR line several times. So
>> between contests I turn the CONFIG parameter off; and when it's on I'm careful to set TX
>> TEST whenever I boot the computer.
>>
>> I'm using a 2.5 GHz single-core cpu running XP. I have absolutely no problems with the CW
>> generated by N1MM, but I don't use spotting or SO2R or anything fancy.

--
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
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[km5ps]

On 3/31/2010 9:25 PM, Vic K2VCO wrote:
     From what I have found out, yes some USB adapters do not work
right.  Mine must be one of the ones that did not work.
     I believe I tried to connect directly to my serial port but had
problems.  It could also have been my serial port, now that is
     where I have my RS232 cable connected for the K3 utility program to
run, and it runs fine.  I kept on getting an error in N1MM that would open
     about 10-20 windows.  I always had to go in and kill the program.  
The cable that I used, was one that I had made for my other radio,
     and it did work at first, but I think I messed up the transistor in
the cable, because it would not work with my old radio either after
that.  But
     a lot of people said that they were using the Winkey and had no
problems, so that is what I started to use.
     John

> I'm not the one who originally asked the question, but it's true that some USB adapters
> may not work properly with this function. I have a real serial port on my computer, and
> have had very good luck generating CW directly from N1MM.
>
> But YMMV, especially with USB adapters.
>
> On 3/31/2010 7:06 PM, john wrote:
>    
>> On 3/31/2010 7:26 PM, Vic K2VCO wrote:
>> Vic
>>        I had asked the same question when I got my K3.  I tried using a
>> com port via usb cable but had problems.  sometimes it would work right
>> but not all of the time.
>> So I started using my Winkey and everything works great.  But I had
>> already purchased a Winkey for another radio, so had one on hand.
>> Hope that helped.
>>
>> John
>>
>>      
>>> On 3/31/2010 4:54 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Good evening to all.
>>>>
>>>> I have a new computer, and I've installed N1MM logger.  My
>>>> question du jour is:
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone used N1MM to provide CW keying via a COM port?  Is
>>>> it satisfactory?  Are there any "gotcha's"?
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> I'm using it with DTR keying. I've set CONFIG: PTT KEY to OFF-DTR and I have set N1MM to
>>> key via the DTR line. I allow the VOX to do the t/r switching; it works with semi- and
>>> full QSK. No connection is needed except for the regular RS232 cable between the computer
>>> and the K3.
>>>
>>> The only gotcha is that during bootup the computer toggles the DTR line several times. So
>>> between contests I turn the CONFIG parameter off; and when it's on I'm careful to set TX
>>> TEST whenever I boot the computer.
>>>
>>> I'm using a 2.5 GHz single-core cpu running XP. I have absolutely no problems with the CW
>>> generated by N1MM, but I don't use spotting or SO2R or anything fancy.
>>>        
>
>    

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[Jim Brown-10]

On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:54:19 -0700, [hidden email] wrote:

>Has anyone used N1MM to provide CW keying via a COM port?  Is
>it satisfactory?  Are there any "gotcha's"?

>How about via the parallel port?  Is it satisfactory?  Are there any
>"gotcha's" there??

I've done it both ways. I've had NO problems at all with N1MM sending
CW to ONE RADIO, either with DTR or the parallel port. It does NOT do
well with two radios SO2R. For that you need WinKey.  

By all means, use DTR on the serial port that you use to control the
radio unless you want to do SO2R. Just go into the Config menu (long
push) and set the K3 to take CW from DTR. Then set either QSK for full
break-in or VOX, depending on your preferences.

There's no good reason to bother with the parallel port. I only did so
when trying to get SO2R to work without WinKey.

73,

Jim K9YC


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[Doug Alspaugh]

t works but during the heat of battle it sometimes does hiccup some. Better to use Winkeyer or something like it.






73 Doug N3QW

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Subject: [Elecraft] N1MM & K3

Good evening to all.

I have a new computer, and I've installed N1MM logger. My
question du jour is:

Has anyone used N1MM to provide CW keying via a COM port? Is
it satisfactory? Are there any "gotcha's"?

How about via the parallel port? Is it satisfactory? Are there any
"gotcha's" there??

I'm sure I will have more questions as I proceed.

73,

George T Daughters, K6GT
CU in the California QSO Party (CQP)
October 2-3, 2010


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[Buck - k4ia]

As a general rule - subject to a million "it  works for me's" serial port
keying has timing issues.  Going through a USB  to serial converter doesn't
help.

I found a USB keyer such as MicroHam's,  K1EL WKUSB, etc. works much better
because it accepts a USB command from the  software to the keyer (very
fast) and the keyer coverts the USB command to  on/offs (dits/dahs).  The keyer
has a built-in buffer that makes sure the  CW is sent correctly.

Such a device also frees your radio's serial com  ports from the
conflicting responsibilities of controlling keying, PTT  etc.  

Your mileage may vary ...

Buck
k4ia



In a message dated 3/31/2010 10:33:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[hidden email] writes:
On 3/31/2010 9:25 PM, Vic K2VCO  wrote:
>From what I have found out, yes some USB  adapters do not work
right.  Mine must be one of the ones that did not  work.
I believe I tried to connect directly to my  serial port but had
problems.  It could also have been my serial port,  now that is
where I have my RS232 cable connected  for the K3 utility program to
run, and it runs fine.  I kept on getting  an error in N1MM that would open
about 10-20  windows.  I always had to go in and kill the program.  
The cable  that I used, was one that I had made for my other  radio,
and it did work at first, but I think I  messed up the transistor in
the cable, because it would not work with my old  radio either after
that.  But
a lot of  people said that they were using the Winkey and had no
problems, so that is  what I started to use.
John
> I'm not the one  who originally asked the question, but it's true that
some USB adapters
>  may not work properly with this function. I have a real serial port on
my  computer, and

> have had very good luck generating CW directly from  N1MM.
>
> But YMMV, especially with USB adapters.
>
> On  3/31/2010 7:06 PM, john wrote:
>    
>> On  3/31/2010 7:26 PM, Vic K2VCO wrote:
>>  Vic
>>        I had asked the same  question when I got my K3.  I tried using a
>> com port via usb  cable but had problems.  sometimes it would work right
>> but not  all of the time.
>> So I started using my Winkey and everything works  great.  But I had
>> already purchased a Winkey for another radio,  so had one on hand.
>> Hope that helped.
>>
>>  John
>>
>>      
>>> On  3/31/2010 4:54 PM, [hidden email]  wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Good evening to  all.
>>>>
>>>> I have a new computer, and I've  installed N1MM logger.  My
>>>> question du jour  is:
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone used N1MM to provide CW  keying via a COM port?  Is
>>>> it satisfactory?  Are  there any  "gotcha's"?
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> I'm using it with DTR keying. I've set CONFIG: PTT KEY to  OFF-DTR and

I have set N1MM to
>>> key via the DTR line. I allow the  VOX to do the t/r switching; it
works with semi- and
>>> full QSK.  No connection is needed except for the regular RS232 cable
between the  computer
>>> and the K3.
>>>
>>> The only  gotcha is that during bootup the computer toggles the DTR
line several times.  So
>>> between contests I turn the CONFIG parameter off; and when  it's on I'm
careful to set TX
>>> TEST whenever I boot the  computer.
>>>
>>> I'm using a 2.5 GHz single-core cpu  running XP. I have absolutely no
problems with the CW
>>> generated  by N1MM, but I don't use spotting or SO2R or anything  fancy.
>>>        
>
>    

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