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Need hints on using K3/K3S with MK2R+ and N1MM

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w2id

Need hints on using K3/K3S with MK2R+ and N1MM

Hi all,

If you do not use N1MM and an MK2R(+) with at least one K3 radio, then you should probably skip the rest of this message, because it won't be relevant to you.

I have been using N1MM (classic, under Windows XP) with my MK2R+ and a pair of Yaesu FT-1000MP's for a few years with good success. I have just replaced the two Yaesu radios with a K3 and a K3S.

It took me the first 90 minutes of the Sweepstakes to get to the point where N1MM saw both of my radios and was able to send CW. Thankfully, I did get that far. But despite several more hours of playing with every setting I could think of, I could not figure out how to make the MK2R+ transmit on the proper radio in "Auto" mode, i.e. the radio that has transmit focus in N1MM. So I was forced to switch manually using the front panel buttons on the MK2R+.

I know it seems like this issue should be posted on either the MicroHam or N1MM reflectors. However, my MicroHam device was working perfectly fine with N1MM with my Yaesu radios, and the problem only started happening when I switched over to the K3's. So I figured my best bet would be to reach out to people who have succeeded in making the MK2R and N1MM work properly with a couple of Elecraft radios, and this is where I can find that crowd!

Can anyone who has been successful getting N1MM and an MK2R+ to work with a pair of Elecraft K3 or K3S radios please kindly either point me to a document showing how to do it, and what all the relevant settings are, or else perhaps share with me either some screen shots or photos of your configuration screens, or a copy of the page in your station configuration log where you documented all of this? I have found numerous docs online, but couldn't find any that address SO2R with an MK2R and a pair of Elecraft rigs. I have pulled out about as much hair as I can afford to pull out.

Thanks!

73,

John W2ID

p.s. Yes, I am aware that I shouldn't still be using Windows XP. The PC is used only for contesting, I subscribe to the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" philosophy. :-)
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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: Need hints on using K3/K3S with MK2R+ and N1MM

John,

I hate to tell you to look for whatever you changed in your software
configuration. However, there is absolutely no difference in TX Focus
whether one is using a pair of FT-1000MP or a pair of K3s!

My best guess would be that you have - in no particular order -
1) set "Radio Nr" for the "MK2R Port" in N1MM to 1 or 2 instead
of "Both"
2) failed to set the "Control" Port in Router to the same port
as you configured as the MK2R port in N1MM
3) failed to set an MK2R port (Two Radio Protocol) in N1MM
4) failed to enable the MK2R Port (check CW/Other) in N1MM
5) failed to select "microHAM control protocol on COM port" on
the SO2R tab in microHAM Router
6) failed to select "Auto" on TX Focus (MK2R front panel).

N1MM Classic is no longer supported by the N1MM development team.
However, the example configuration for N1MM Classic and MK2R+ is
available here:
<http://www.microham.com/Downloads/MK2R_N1MM_USB_Setup.pdf>

Since N1MM Classic and N1MM Logger+ can not be installed at the same
time, I can no longer provide updates/specific support for N1MM
Classic.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 11/7/2016 4:49 PM, John W2ID wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> If you do not use N1MM and an MK2R(+) with at least one K3 radio,
> then you should probably skip the rest of this message, because it
> won't be relevant to you.
>
> I have been using N1MM (classic, under Windows XP) with my MK2R+ and
> a pair of Yaesu FT-1000MP's for a few years with good success. I
> have just replaced the two Yaesu radios with a K3 and a K3S.
>
> It took me the first 90 minutes of the Sweepstakes to get to the
> point where N1MM saw both of my radios and was able to send CW.
> Thankfully, I did get that far. But despite several more hours of
> playing with every setting I could think of, I could not figure out
> how to make the MK2R+ transmit on the proper radio in "Auto" mode,
> i.e. the radio that has transmit focus in N1MM. So I was forced to
> switch manually using the front panel buttons on the MK2R+.
>
> I know it seems like this issue should be posted on either the
> MicroHam or N1MM reflectors. However, my MicroHam device was working
> perfectly fine with N1MM with my Yaesu radios, and the problem only
> started happening when I switched over to the K3's. So I figured my
> best bet would be to reach out to people who have succeeded in making
> the MK2R and N1MM work properly with a couple of Elecraft radios, and
> this is where I can find that crowd!
>
> Can anyone who has been successful getting N1MM and an MK2R+ to work
> with a pair of Elecraft K3 or K3S radios please kindly either point
> me to a document showing how to do it, and what all the relevant
> settings are, or else perhaps share with me either some screen shots
> or photos of your configuration screens, or a copy of the page in
> your station configuration log where you documented all of this? I
> have found numerous docs online, but couldn't find any that address
> SO2R with an MK2R and a pair of Elecraft rigs. I have pulled out
> about as much hair as I can afford to pull out.
>
> Thanks!
>
> 73,
>
> John W2ID
>
> p.s. Yes, I am aware that I shouldn't still be using Windows XP.
> The PC is used only for contesting, I subscribe to the "if it ain't
> broke, don't fix it" philosophy. :-)

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Michael Walker

Re: Need hints on using K3/K3S with MK2R+ and N1MM

John, your PS comment made me laugh.

Sounds like it might be broke now, so now you are going to have to fix it.
:)

73, mike va3mw

On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> John,
>
> I hate to tell you to look for whatever you changed in your software
> configuration. However, there is absolutely no difference in TX Focus
> whether one is using a pair of FT-1000MP or a pair of K3s!
>
> My best guess would be that you have - in no particular order -
> 1) set "Radio Nr" for the "MK2R Port" in N1MM to 1 or 2 instead
> of "Both"
> 2) failed to set the "Control" Port in Router to the same port
> as you configured as the MK2R port in N1MM
> 3) failed to set an MK2R port (Two Radio Protocol) in N1MM
> 4) failed to enable the MK2R Port (check CW/Other) in N1MM
> 5) failed to select "microHAM control protocol on COM port" on
> the SO2R tab in microHAM Router
> 6) failed to select "Auto" on TX Focus (MK2R front panel).
>
> N1MM Classic is no longer supported by the N1MM development team.
> However, the example configuration for N1MM Classic and MK2R+ is
> available here:
> <http://www.microham.com/Downloads/MK2R_N1MM_USB_Setup.pdf>
>
> Since N1MM Classic and N1MM Logger+ can not be installed at the same
> time, I can no longer provide updates/specific support for N1MM
> Classic.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>
>
> On 11/7/2016 4:49 PM, John W2ID wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> If you do not use N1MM and an MK2R(+) with at least one K3 radio,
>> then you should probably skip the rest of this message, because it
>> won't be relevant to you.
>>
>> I have been using N1MM (classic, under Windows XP) with my MK2R+ and
>> a pair of Yaesu FT-1000MP's for a few years with good success. I
>> have just replaced the two Yaesu radios with a K3 and a K3S.
>>
>> It took me the first 90 minutes of the Sweepstakes to get to the
>> point where N1MM saw both of my radios and was able to send CW.
>> Thankfully, I did get that far. But despite several more hours of
>> playing with every setting I could think of, I could not figure out
>> how to make the MK2R+ transmit on the proper radio in "Auto" mode,
>> i.e. the radio that has transmit focus in N1MM. So I was forced to
>> switch manually using the front panel buttons on the MK2R+.
>>
>> I know it seems like this issue should be posted on either the
>> MicroHam or N1MM reflectors. However, my MicroHam device was working
>> perfectly fine with N1MM with my Yaesu radios, and the problem only
>> started happening when I switched over to the K3's. So I figured my
>> best bet would be to reach out to people who have succeeded in making
>> the MK2R and N1MM work properly with a couple of Elecraft radios, and
>> this is where I can find that crowd!
>>
>> Can anyone who has been successful getting N1MM and an MK2R+ to work
>> with a pair of Elecraft K3 or K3S radios please kindly either point
>> me to a document showing how to do it, and what all the relevant
>> settings are, or else perhaps share with me either some screen shots
>> or photos of your configuration screens, or a copy of the page in
>> your station configuration log where you documented all of this? I
>> have found numerous docs online, but couldn't find any that address
>> SO2R with an MK2R and a pair of Elecraft rigs. I have pulled out
>> about as much hair as I can afford to pull out.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> John W2ID
>>
>> p.s. Yes, I am aware that I shouldn't still be using Windows XP.
>> The PC is used only for contesting, I subscribe to the "if it ain't
>> broke, don't fix it" philosophy. :-)
>>
>
>
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Ed G

Re: Need hints on using K3/K3S with MK2R+ and N1MM

In reply to this post by w2id

Hi Joe,
You posted;

> Since N1MM Classic and N1MM Logger+ can not be installed at the same
> time, I can no longer provide updates/specific support for N1MM
> Classic.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV

I have both N1MM old and new versions installed and running on my computer,
so I was curious after reading what you said. Can you explain further?
--Ed, N3CW--

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