New Elecraft Message Board?

I'm proposing it is way past about time, for Elecraft
Inc. to create and support an "Elecraft Message Board"
for all its many customers and fans.  IMHO -
this REFLECTOR thing - is about 10 years out of date,
and an antique.  

Take a look at the following link (if Elecraft's
REFLECTOR will let it thru) - and see how a 2007
Message Board & forum looks and feels.


           http://forums.bateau2.com/

Bateau Inc. is a company that sells boat plans, boat
kits, boat parts, and has a large customer base of
boat builders, and people who are repairing, building
and upgrading their boats.  Their message board is
their forum for all their customers, for all the
categories of things that one would get involved in,
in providing a "boat plans" and kits company to the
world.

I'm not sure how much people-time it would take to put
up such a message board for Elecraft's customers and
fans, but it would be a "K3" type of improvement.
Boards like the one bateau uses - are a canned
commercial software board, and I'm quite sure reside
on the company's servers.  No big deal at all.

Elecraft might even be able to talk a customer into
providing the time for care, feeding and maintenance
of such a modern MESSAGE BOARD Forum.

I don't know about others - but the experience of
reading Elecraft REFLECTOR posts, where 1/2 of the
message is header/links/message trails, gets very old.
One wonders at times, if the message content on the
Elecraft RELFLECTOR is secondary to all the header
material that tags along each and every post.

I create, design and support several websites for
a few commerical orgs, and this kind of change for
the better - is just that.  It comes with the
internet territory.  The REFLECTOR thing - is
something from the past.

Any chance - Elecraft's "computer guy or girl"
could put one up for us?

73, de Fred, N3CSY




 
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On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 04:15:49 -0700 (PDT), "Fred (FL)"
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>I'm proposing it is way past about time, for Elecraft
>Inc. to create and support an "Elecraft Message Board"
>for all its many customers and fans.  IMHO -
>this REFLECTOR thing - is about 10 years out of date,
>and an antique.  

With the current reflector and modern reader, I can see the subject
and authors for 80 to 90 threads at a glance (no scrolling).  I can
also automatically filter the posts by subject or author. The posts
can be ordered by thread, time (ascending or descending), alphabetical
by subject or author and various combinations of the above.

The forum you recommend requires that I use a cumbersome interface
that I find backward and non-intuitive.  On my screen, I can see at
most 20 message classifications without scrolling or opening nested
window interfaces, all of which, when opened, display approx. 20
message headers, which when opened, display the actual messages.

I very much prefer the current reflector with my modern reader and its
single key stroke message reading to the limited, mouse based,
graphical interface.

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Hallo Fred et al,

> I'm proposing it is way past about time, for Elecraft
> Inc. to create and support an "Elecraft Message Board"
> for all its many customers and fans.  IMHO -
> this REFLECTOR thing - is about 10 years out of date,
> and an antique.  

I use the support services of various companies and their customers at
work - Some are mail lists (reflectors) and some are web based forums.

In Elecraft's case my vote is: Elecraft please *do not* change anything.

vy 73 de toby
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Fred

I follow several message boards also and they are more rewarding to
follow and and more efficient to use than the present Elecraft approach
to communications among users.

Since the messages are better organized into topics & sub topics the
long term topic searching is considerably better organized. In the long
run this should reduce the duplicated question traffic.

The following example is typical of well supported boards on the same
scale as Elecraft:

forum.freespire.org/

Thanks for your posting and I hope the idea is developed for the
betterment of Elecraft support.

Arthur



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I like the current elecraft message board as I receive the emails into
outlook where I can read and respond I don't have to go to some website to
keep up to date so as for my vote elecraft should keep it the same it works
and it aint broke so don't fix it



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Fred

I follow several message boards also and they are more rewarding to follow
and and more efficient to use than the present Elecraft approach to
communications among users.

Since the messages are better organized into topics & sub topics the long
term topic searching is considerably better organized. In the long run this
should reduce the duplicated question traffic.

The following example is typical of well supported boards on the same scale
as Elecraft:

forum.freespire.org/

Thanks for your posting and I hope the idea is developed for the betterment
of Elecraft support.

Arthur



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> On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 04:15:49 -0700 (PDT), "Fred (FL)"
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> >I'm proposing it is way past about time, for Elecraft
> >Inc. to create and support an "Elecraft Message Board"
> >for all its many customers and fans.  IMHO -
> >this REFLECTOR thing - is about 10 years out of date,
> >and an antique.  

>
> I very much prefer the current reflector with my modern reader and its
> single key stroke message reading to the limited, mouse based,
> graphical interface.
>

Me too....

An email based "reflector" is much more useable than any "web forum".
It's up to you how you set up your email software to filter/thread/sort.
A web-forum requires you to be online to read any messages, requires use
of a web browser etc. An email list just requres you to download
messages and then you can disconnect and read at your leisure.

For the maximum coverage, with the maximum compatabilty of
hardware/software/OS/net availabilty/bandwidth requirements it just has
to be plain, simple TEXT (no HTML) email....

Web forums are indeed easy to set up (I run a small one myself
http://www.gm3zet.org/phpBB2/index.php) but I've never enjoyed using any
of them for quick & easy  navigation/reading/replying/filtering/ignoring
threads/following threads


YMMV...

Cheers,

John GM4SLV
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Get Gmail it's free and it automatically sorts messages into threads so if
someone sends an EMail and another person replies they are shown right below
each other in the same message plus you get 2 GB of storge and you can
forward your Yahoo mail to gmail also. Reply if you wan't an Invitation.
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As is, please.


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I don't think it's possible to find a solution that suits both
experienced users with powerful email programs who know how to set up
filters to organize messages how they want, and those who just have
everything end up in their inbox and who fret over the pennies it
costs them to download posts that are off-topic or of no interest.

The list archives would be an excellent tool for those who just want
to follow specific threads of interest, but they waste way to much
space displaying completely irrelevant header information, so you have
to scroll down to read the actual text, and there is no easy way to
send an in-context reply to a post.

I see that Michael W2CVZ has echoed my suggestion of using Gmail as a
dedicated account for Elecraft messages. It's free and it works great.
But I guess there may still be some who won't use a web based reader
because they pay for net access by the minute. I sympathize with those
people but I don't think the answer is strict moderation because this
is not just an Elecraft support group but also a *community* and it is
inevitable that people will now and again want to discuss things with
fellow members that are not strictly about using or fixing Elecraft
products.
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Good luck Fred.

Getting something like this to change is like pulling teeth.  People
have gotten very used to this old-style system.

For the list to change format, Elecraft would just have to do it.  If
they said that the old system was too costly and the new one was they
way they were going, we'd all just follow along and things would be
fine.  Some features would be lost, many others gained and we'd all be
happy in 6 months.

Ask for consensus and you'll have opinions all over the place with no
agreement.  Some of my hobby stuff is on e-mail lists like this.  Others
are on forum style systems.  I prefer the latter but I can deal with
either.

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I'm proposing it is way past about time, for Elecraft Inc. to create and
support an "Elecraft Message Board"
for all its many customers and fans.  IMHO - this REFLECTOR thing - is
about 10 years out of date, and an antique.  

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On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Fred (FL) wrote:

> I'm proposing it is way past about time, for Elecraft
> Inc. to create and support an "Elecraft Message Board"
> for all its many customers and fans.  IMHO -
> this REFLECTOR thing - is about 10 years out of date,
> and an antique.

I have experience in mailing lists(reflectors) versus
web based forums.  Both work, and both have their own set
of "customers".

Some folks enjoy email and avoid web-based forums, others
can't live without a forum and don't want the emails.

You can almost make bets that if a mailing list community
is changed to a forum, a number of people will leave, and
turning a forum into email will also loose folks.

Both Yahoo and Google groups offer the community the ability
to choose between email, web based forums or both...with
the distinct advantage that the information posted by the
web forum only community is sent to the email only community
and vice versa.

>
> I create, design and support several websites for
> a few commerical orgs, and this kind of change for
> the better - is just that.  It comes with the
> internet territory.  The REFLECTOR thing - is
> something from the past.

So is cw....yet many of us still use it.

I hope that Elecraft does NOT take your suggestion to
eliminate the email list and change it to a web-based
forum...I would hope that in time they accomodate both
venues where each of us can hove our own favored venue
and not impose that upong others, which would be the
end result of your proposal


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On Jun 4, 2007, at 5:08 AM, Arthur Gunn wrote:

> Fred
>
> I follow several message boards also and they are more rewarding to
> follow and and more efficient to use than the present Elecraft  
> approach
> to communications among users.

I disagree. I don't want to have to log into some other board to read  
messages. I want them all in one place -- my mailbox. Yes I have the  
various reflectors to which I subscribe split out into separate  
folders automatically but that is an easy thing to deal with.

I too would prefer to keep the reflector the way it is.

> Since the messages are better organized into topics & sub topics the
> long term topic searching is considerably better organized. In the  
> long
> run this should reduce the duplicated question traffic.

All of the major mail readers offer threading for topics. If people  
will properly alter the subject line when they alter a topic this  
works fine. And a BBS has no advantage there either as you won't see  
a new thread if people don't create one.

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> this REFLECTOR thing - is about 10 years out of date,
> and an antique.  

> Take a look at the following link (if Elecraft's
> REFLECTOR will let it thru) - and see how a 2007
> Message Board & forum looks and feels.

Hmmm. Looks like the CompuServe forum I was using for customer support in
1989 -- almost 20 years ago -- and the Web-based forum I was using for
customer support in 1995.

List servers like this one grew up in about the same time period, reaching
the Internet in the early 1990's.

I have a strong personal preference for an email list. It is a "push"
technology -- all the information comes to me instead of me having to go to
the information -- and I can use a variety of easy-to-use tools to organize
it. I can block posts from particular users, I can archive messages I may
want to refer to in the future, and I can sort messages by date, subject,
author or whatever. The Web-based archive at qth.net allows me to search the
entire history of the list, and gives me the ability to download all
messages over the entire history of the list to my local machine for storage
or searching.

Web-based forums require ME to visit THEM. In order to keep track of what
I've seen before, some write a cookie to my machine. From time to time I
flush my cookies and as a result, the Web forum may lose track of what I've
seen and not seen, requiring me to manually review each thread. It is
difficult to save posts for later review, except by cutting and pasting into
a document of some kind, which loses the threaded nature of the discussion.

My email program archives all the emails I send, so I have an easy record of
everything I've posted to every email list of which I am a member. It is
more difficult to get the same from a Web-based forum.

But my purpose for posting was not so much to argue in favor of the email
list over a Web forum (an argument I happen to know I'm going to win because
I know where Eric stands on the issue) but rather to point out that email
lists are no more "old fashioned" than forums. Their history overlaps. They
were both developed at the same time.

Rather than spit into the wind, the email list detractors should take five
minutes to figure out how to better organize their incoming email. It's
trivial to send all Elecraft email to its own folder in most email clients.
It's trivial to further divide them by K1, K2, K3, etc. It's also trivial to
switch to digest mode, or leave the list until such time as you need help.
The solutions to the amount of traffic generated by this list are myriad and
none require changes of the scope some have suggested, inconveniencing all
2000 members of the list.

Craig
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> On Mon, 2007-04-06 at 04:15 -0700, Fred (FL) wrote:
>  
>> I'm proposing it is way past about time, for Elecraft
>> Inc. to create and support an "Elecraft Message Board"
>>    
If it ain't broke don't fix it.  With any modern email client one can
sort messages by thread, and filter out those one finds objectionable.  
I find email less cumbersome than message board systems, which have no
filtering.  I do agree that a message board can organize by topic,  
thread or sender, but I just can not bring myself to like the system.

Just my $.02 worth, now back in my hole.

73 de John AI4JH
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Enough already everyone, this has been hashed over before and even myself
and Simon offered to set up and host a web based forum for Elecraft.
However Elecraft said they aren't interested at this time, So that should
end the conversations.  When Eric or whomever decides to do something
different they can do it...but for now just live with the email list.


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Guys - I apologize for not stepping in earlier. I was out of town this
weekend. ( It seems every time I'm out a new thread explodes.. ;-)

We are not splitting the list. It would be impossible for us to
participate in multiple lists, and to be honest, it would just make it
confusing for someone new to Elecraft.

In addition, this list serves as valuable marketing and technical
feedback for us, and a single point method for communicating with a
large number of Elecraft customers.

73, Eric   WA6HHQ


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> Enough already everyone, this has been hashed over before and even myself
> and Simon offered to set up and host a web based forum for Elecraft.
> However Elecraft said they aren't interested at this time, So that should
> end the conversations.  When Eric or whomever decides to do something
> different they can do it...but for now just live with the email list.
>
>  
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Ahh - I see this was more about changing the list to a message board
format.

We also will be keeping the list email based. As several have mentioned
before, it is very easy to set up your email client program to filter
individual messages to separate folders based on words in the subject
line or body. I use this extensively to handle the huge email load I
receive daily. [Elecraft] list posts go to the 'Elecraft List' folder,
and even K3 posts can go to a 'K3' sub folder. None of the list postings
are ever seen in my main inbox.

Also, for those who prefer to read the list in a web based format, we
have been providing this service for a long time. See:
http://www.ac6rm.net/mailarchive/html/elecraft-list/    It does much of
what people are asking for.

You can click on [Date] to read each days  postings sorted by time and
date. [Thread] sorts by thread etc. I use the [Date] sorted list to
display each posting just by its subject line. I then only need to click
on the posting subject lines that I actually want to read and I am not
overloaded by email headers etc. If you prefer to read the list this
way, just set your list options to 'no email' to stop individual mail
delivery but still be allowed to post. (I'll post instructions for this
next.)

73, Eric

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Well put, sir.

As far as forums being being "up-to-date", forums were available to the general
public before email was.  And they've not gotten a lot better, either.

73, doug

   From: "Craig Rairdin" <[hidden email]>
   Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 09:24:27 -0500
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   > this REFLECTOR thing - is about 10 years out of date,
   > and an antique.  

   > Take a look at the following link (if Elecraft's
   > REFLECTOR will let it thru) - and see how a 2007
   > Message Board & forum looks and feels.

   Hmmm. Looks like the CompuServe forum I was using for customer support in
   1989 -- almost 20 years ago -- and the Web-based forum I was using for
   customer support in 1995.

   List servers like this one grew up in about the same time period, reaching
   the Internet in the early 1990's.

   I have a strong personal preference for an email list. It is a "push"
   technology -- all the information comes to me instead of me having to go to
   the information -- and I can use a variety of easy-to-use tools to organize
   it. I can block posts from particular users, I can archive messages I may
   want to refer to in the future, and I can sort messages by date, subject,
   author or whatever. The Web-based archive at qth.net allows me to search the
   entire history of the list, and gives me the ability to download all
   messages over the entire history of the list to my local machine for storage
   or searching.

   Web-based forums require ME to visit THEM. In order to keep track of what
   I've seen before, some write a cookie to my machine. From time to time I
   flush my cookies and as a result, the Web forum may lose track of what I've
   seen and not seen, requiring me to manually review each thread. It is
   difficult to save posts for later review, except by cutting and pasting into
   a document of some kind, which loses the threaded nature of the discussion.

   My email program archives all the emails I send, so I have an easy record of
   everything I've posted to every email list of which I am a member. It is
   more difficult to get the same from a Web-based forum.

   But my purpose for posting was not so much to argue in favor of the email
   list over a Web forum (an argument I happen to know I'm going to win because
   I know where Eric stands on the issue) but rather to point out that email
   lists are no more "old fashioned" than forums. Their history overlaps. They
   were both developed at the same time.

   Rather than spit into the wind, the email list detractors should take five
   minutes to figure out how to better organize their incoming email. It's
   trivial to send all Elecraft email to its own folder in most email clients.
   It's trivial to further divide them by K1, K2, K3, etc. It's also trivial to
   switch to digest mode, or leave the list until such time as you need help.
   The solutions to the amount of traffic generated by this list are myriad and
   none require changes of the scope some have suggested, inconveniencing all
   2000 members of the list.

   Craig
   NZ0R
   KX1 #1499
   K1 #1966
   K2/100 #4941
   K3/100 < #200

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Welcome back Eric, and thanks for ending that thread.
There was plenty of time to waste this weekend with
the bands the way they were (dead) but I thought I'd
update you on what the scoundrels in the other camp
were up to while you were away.

You know that computer, I mean transceiver that's all
computer? The newest model is hidden on a big box so
you cannot see the Windows but I hear tale that XP
and lots of other Bill Gates evil is inside when you
buy it.

You don't need to be too smart to set this one up,
just need to be able to find the USB post on your
existing computer I hear.

Well they had the mystery antenna guy (W5GI?) on the
air with Serial Number #00001 this weekend and he was
taking calls. He said he wanted to take some QRP
signals first so I had the Argo V ready to go but the
calls he took were oddly all SDR1000's doing 1.5kw.

What a coincidence?

It was just like coming home for those guys and I
could "feel the love".

Anyway, the SDR crowd got a bone this weekend and they
gave that radio a test which is good because they are
supposed to ship in a month.

Too much money and too much computer for myself, but
hey it's something new on the bands.

Now pse get bk to work, hope you had a nice weekend!

from [Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

To:  "Gregg R. Lengling" <[hidden email]>
Subject:  Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Message Board?
[End of Thread]
From:  "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft"
<[hidden email]>
Date:  Mon, 04 Jun 2007 07:56:01 -0700
Cc:  'Elecraft Discussion List'
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Guys - I apologize for not stepping in earlier. I was
out of town this weekend. ( It seems every time I'm
out a new thread explodes.. ;-)

We are not splitting the list. It would be impossible
for us to participate in multiple lists, and to be
honest, it would just make it confusing for someone
new to Elecraft.

In addition, this list serves as valuable marketing
and technical feedback for us, and a single point
method for communicating with a large number of
Elecraft customers.


73, Eric   WA6HHQ


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