New K3 & P3 Beta Firmware Available
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Klaus,
I got into the same situation you described here this morning. The K3 Utility would loop and wouldn't find the K3. The only way I could get around it was by disconnecting the P3 com cable and plugging it directly into the K3. Then the Utility connected and I was able to force the firmware load. The firmware load initially got hung up with the P3 being on. After turning off the P3 the K3 Utility still didn't find the K3. I plan to change my P3 power on option to NOT come on with the K3. I meant to choose that option initially anyhow but never got back to it. I think that will avoid this snag next download. Ralph K1ZZI Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 10:16:34 +0200 From: Koppendorfer Klaus <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New K3 & P3 Beta Firmware Available I tried to load newest fimware to K3 and P3 Within loading 4.12 (and P3 inline) the K3 util said unable to load? and K3 hangs Tried to do forcing firmware download as descripted in manual? tx-led blinking and lcd ? mcu ld the util software is polling K3 on multiple baudrates but coult not find K3 Tried to new reboot PC just with one usb connection (only to k3) same problem Is there any other possibility to force K3 to connect to PC ?? 73 Klaus OE6KYG ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: New K3 & P3 Beta Firmware Available
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Ralph, K1ZZI, wrote:
> I got into the same situation you described here this > morning. The K3 Utility would loop and wouldn't find the K3. > The only way I could get around it was by disconnecting the > P3 com cable and plugging it directly into the K3. Then the > Utility connected and I was able to force the firmware load. > > The firmware load initially got hung up with the P3 being on. > After turning off the P3 the K3 Utility still didn't find > the K3. I plan to change my P3 power on option to NOT come > on with the K3. I meant to choose that option initially > anyhow but never got back to it. I think that will avoid > this snag next download. If you prefer a different P3 power-on option during normal operation, then just disconnect the P3 power cable for K3 firmware upgrades. Ed - W0YK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Given a number of reports about trouble downloading the latest K3 and P3 firmware, I decided to report my success conditions. K3#125, P3#159, P3 power switch setup to turn on automatically with the K3 but can turn off P3 power after K3 power up. P3 connected to computer running XP. P3 connected to K3, also Steppir SDA100 controller hanging on the K3 line as a read only device. P3 utility 1.3.8.25, K3 utility 1.3.9.3 P3 power is not supplied by the K3, but comes directly from a Rigrunner power distribution box from the station 12 volt supply. Turned off P3 power switch. Ran K3 utility and downloaded the K3 update. A snap after I found the ftp files. Closed the utility file. Then cycled power switch on the K3. Then ran the P3 utility and downloaded the P3 update. Cycled power after closing the utility. All is well. It is really worth it. John KH7T ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: New K3 & P3 Beta Firmware Available
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I loaded the beta updates with zero problems.
-----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John Buck Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 12:07 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New K3 & P3 Beta Firmware Available Given a number of reports about trouble downloading the latest K3 and P3 firmware, I decided to report my success conditions. K3#125, P3#159, P3 power switch setup to turn on automatically with the K3 but can turn off P3 power after K3 power up. P3 connected to computer running XP. P3 connected to K3, also Steppir SDA100 controller hanging on the K3 line as a read only device. P3 utility 1.3.8.25, K3 utility 1.3.9.3 P3 power is not supplied by the K3, but comes directly from a Rigrunner power distribution box from the station 12 volt supply. Turned off P3 power switch. Ran K3 utility and downloaded the K3 update. A snap after I found the ftp files. Closed the utility file. Then cycled power switch on the K3. Then ran the P3 utility and downloaded the P3 update. Cycled power after closing the utility. All is well. It is really worth it. John KH7T ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Upgrading K3 firmware through the P3
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On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 09:06 -1000, John Buck wrote:
> > Given a number of reports about trouble downloading the latest K3 and P3 firmware, I decided to report my success conditions. Currently, in order to update K3 firmware with the P3 in line, you first have to turn off the P3. That can be done by simply tapping the POWER switch unless you have the internal power-on jumper set to the "always on" position. In that case you have to remove the power cable to the P3 to turn it off. If you forget to turn off the P3, then when you try to load K3 firmware the K3 Utility will give a warning message and you can turn it off at that time. The problem occurs if somehow the P3 gets turned back on again after that. One way that can happen is if you cycle power to the K3 and the P3 is getting its power from the K3's auxiliary power output jack. If the P3's power-on jumper is set to turn on automatically when power is applied, then the K3 download process is disrupted which causes the K3 to hang up. There is now a section in the manual with a step-by-step procedure to recover from that. We plan to add a feature to the P3 so that you don't have to turn it off to upgrade K3 firmware. It's high on the list. Alan N1AL ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hi Al,
I finally built my own P3 yesterday (#152) and it seems to work great. I'd like to revive three suggestions that I think I made earlier after using a prototype at P49Y in WPX CW. These are all based on features of the Icom 756 Pro 2 bandscope, that I think are desirable: 1) Can a FN key be set to go to a preset span? It would be very nice to be able to do so, instead of having to fiddle with the span knob each time you want to look wide or narrow. How about allowing a cycling among several preset spans? 2) When one changes bands, it would be nice if the P3 automatically set its reference level, so it didn't need manual adjustment. 3) The Pro has a "hold" feature that freezes the display to allow you to move the marker to a signal that may have disappeared. I realize to some extent the waterfall display allows that also, but it would be nice to be able to do so with the spectrum display also. As before, congratulations to you and Elecraft on a fine piece of gear! 73, Andy, AE6Y ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Feature 1 is something that is being actively talked about with P3 field
testers... Feature 2 already happens with the latest P3 firmware the reference level is remembered per band. As for feature 3 you may be able to get by with what you want using the peak hold feature. The freeze feature is almost what you want but you can't move markers while in that mode. ~Brett (N7MG) On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 22:06 -0700, Andy Faber wrote: > Hi Al, > I finally built my own P3 yesterday (#152) and it seems to work great. > I'd like to revive three suggestions that I think I made earlier after using > a prototype at P49Y in WPX CW. These are all based on features of the Icom > 756 Pro 2 bandscope, that I think are desirable: > 1) Can a FN key be set to go to a preset span? It would be very nice to be > able to do so, instead of having to fiddle with the span knob each time you > want to look wide or narrow. How about allowing a cycling among several > preset spans? > 2) When one changes bands, it would be nice if the P3 automatically set its > reference level, so it didn't need manual adjustment. > 3) The Pro has a "hold" feature that freezes the display to allow you to > move the marker to a signal that may have disappeared. I realize to some > extent the waterfall display allows that also, but it would be nice to be > able to do so with the spectrum display also. > As before, congratulations to you and Elecraft on a fine piece of gear! > 73, Andy, AE6Y > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hi Andy,
On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 22:06 -0700, Andy Faber wrote: ... > 1) Can a FN key be set to go to a preset span? It would be very nice to be > able to do so, instead of having to fiddle with the span knob each time you > want to look wide or narrow. How about allowing a cycling among several > preset spans? I've added a feature for the next beta release where you can assign pre-set spans to FN keys. > 2) When one changes bands, it would be nice if the P3 automatically set its > reference level, so it didn't need manual adjustment. As of version 00.31, the REF LVL is saved per band. There is a bug in currently-released K3 firmware that prevents the P3 from getting upgraded band information in certain specific situations. (I've seen it happen when bands are turned off in the K3 band map.) It is fixed in current K3 beta firmware. > 3) The Pro has a "hold" feature that freezes the display to allow you to > move the marker to a signal that may have disappeared. I realize to some > extent the waterfall display allows that also, but it would be nice to be > able to do so with the spectrum display also. On the list. > As before, congratulations to you and Elecraft on a fine piece of gear! Thanks! 73, Alan N1AL > 73, Andy, AE6Y > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Al,
Thanks for the reply. Regarding the reference level, the Icom always seems to simply set it correctly. I assume it is not merely remembering the level when bands are switched, but is rather computing a new floor each time. Is that a bad approach? I like having the ability to adjust the reference level and the scale on the P3, but on the other hand, for a quick look at a band in a contest, it would be convenient not to have to make any adjustments when changing bands (even if the noise floor may have changed since you were last on that band). 73, andy, ae6y ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Bloom" <[hidden email]> To: "Andy Faber" <[hidden email]> Cc: <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 suggestions > Hi Andy, > > On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 22:06 -0700, Andy Faber wrote: > ... >> 1) Can a FN key be set to go to a preset span? It would be very nice to >> be >> able to do so, instead of having to fiddle with the span knob each time >> you >> want to look wide or narrow. How about allowing a cycling among several >> preset spans? > > I've added a feature for the next beta release where you can assign > pre-set spans to FN keys. > >> 2) When one changes bands, it would be nice if the P3 automatically set >> its >> reference level, so it didn't need manual adjustment. > > As of version 00.31, the REF LVL is saved per band. There is a bug in > currently-released K3 firmware that prevents the P3 from getting > upgraded band information in certain specific situations. (I've seen it > happen when bands are turned off in the K3 band map.) It is fixed in > current K3 beta firmware. > >> 3) The Pro has a "hold" feature that freezes the display to allow you to >> move the marker to a signal that may have disappeared. I realize to some >> extent the waterfall display allows that also, but it would be nice to be >> able to do so with the spectrum display also. > > On the list. > >> As before, congratulations to you and Elecraft on a fine piece of gear! > > Thanks! > > 73, > > Alan N1AL > >> 73, Andy, AE6Y >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On the list is an auto-scale function to be activated by holding the
SCALE key a second time when scale is already active. So the default is to use your previous REF LVL and SCALE settings for that band but you would be able to auto-scale if desired. Alan On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 09:05 -0700, Andrew Faber wrote: > Al, > Thanks for the reply. > Regarding the reference level, the Icom always seems to simply set it > correctly. I assume it is not merely remembering the level when bands are > switched, but is rather computing a new floor each time. Is that a bad > approach? I like having the ability to adjust the reference level and the > scale on the P3, but on the other hand, for a quick look at a band in a > contest, it would be convenient not to have to make any adjustments when > changing bands (even if the noise floor may have changed since you were last > on that band). > 73, andy, ae6y > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Bloom" <[hidden email]> > To: "Andy Faber" <[hidden email]> > Cc: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 8:58 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 suggestions > > > > Hi Andy, > > > > On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 22:06 -0700, Andy Faber wrote: > > ... > >> 1) Can a FN key be set to go to a preset span? It would be very nice to > >> be > >> able to do so, instead of having to fiddle with the span knob each time > >> you > >> want to look wide or narrow. How about allowing a cycling among several > >> preset spans? > > > > I've added a feature for the next beta release where you can assign > > pre-set spans to FN keys. > > > >> 2) When one changes bands, it would be nice if the P3 automatically set > >> its > >> reference level, so it didn't need manual adjustment. > > > > As of version 00.31, the REF LVL is saved per band. There is a bug in > > currently-released K3 firmware that prevents the P3 from getting > > upgraded band information in certain specific situations. (I've seen it > > happen when bands are turned off in the K3 band map.) It is fixed in > > current K3 beta firmware. > > > >> 3) The Pro has a "hold" feature that freezes the display to allow you to > >> move the marker to a signal that may have disappeared. I realize to some > >> extent the waterfall display allows that also, but it would be nice to be > >> able to do so with the spectrum display also. > > > > On the list. > > > >> As before, congratulations to you and Elecraft on a fine piece of gear! > > > > Thanks! > > > > 73, > > > > Alan N1AL > > > >> 73, Andy, AE6Y > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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