New K3

[Mike, W9QS]

I have a new K3/10 Serial Number 2547 and I love it.  First contacts were during the Fox hunt last night.  I only have one problem.  I ordered the Heil proset and for some reason I can't get the SSB VOX to function.  I must be missing something.  Any ideas?

73,72

Mike, W9QS
EX: KN6TBP (1956), K1DGQ, DL4KM, K5LJN, W9FRR, W9KVF

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[Bob Cunnings NW8L]

What VOX gain settings have you tried?

Bob NW8L

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Mike, W9QS <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I have a new K3/10 Serial Number 2547 and I love it.  First contacts were during the Fox hunt last night.  I only have one problem.  I ordered the Heil proset and for some reason I can't get the SSB VOX to function.  I must be missing something.  Any ideas?
>
> 73,72
>
> Mike, W9QS
> EX: KN6TBP (1956), K1DGQ, DL4KM, K5LJN, W9FRR, W9KVF
>
> K2, OHR500, Norcal 20, SP1
>
> Fists #12327, FP #268, OOTC #4423, QRPARCI #9521
>
>
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[Don - K2PMC]

Mike, W9QS wrote

 I only have one problem.  I ordered the Heil proset and for some reason I can't get the SSB VOX to function.  I must be missing something.  Any ideas?

73,72

Mike, W9QS

Mike,

I have the same headset and it works great.  You're probably using the Front Panel connection, so check your Main Menu  "Mic Sel" setting and make sure it is set to Front Panel.  I have my VOX Gain set at 30.

73,
Don
K2PMC

[Bruce McLaughlin-2]

There is some interaction between the mic gain and vox settings.  You should
be sure you have the mic gain properly set (not too low).  Then with the vox
gain brought up on the menu, slowly advance the gain until the vox reliably
triggers.  Of course, be sure you have enabled the bias.  If you haven't,
neither the vox nor the mike will work, assuming you have the Pro set with
the IC element.

Of course voice volume varies, but for what it is worth, I get very reliable
vox triggering with the vox gain at about 9 or so.

Bruce-W8FU

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New K3

What VOX gain settings have you tried?

Bob NW8L

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Mike, W9QS <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I have a new K3/10 Serial Number 2547 and I love it.  First contacts were
during the Fox hunt last night.  I only have one problem.  I ordered the
Heil proset and for some reason I can't get the SSB VOX to function.  I must
be missing something.  Any ideas?

>
> 73,72
>
> Mike, W9QS
> EX: KN6TBP (1956), K1DGQ, DL4KM, K5LJN, W9FRR, W9KVF
>
> K2, OHR500, Norcal 20, SP1
>
> Fists #12327, FP #268, OOTC #4423, QRPARCI #9521
>
>
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[Jan Erik Holm]

I´ve always wondered about this, I wouldn´t even call it
interaction, it´s like "more" then interaction.

Mic gain should NEVER have any influence on Vox gain.
Please Elecraft fix this as soon as possible. IMO this
is a very big design flaw.

73 Jim SM2EKM
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Bruce McLaughlin wrote:

> There is some interaction between the mic gain and vox settings.  You should
> be sure you have the mic gain properly set (not too low).  Then with the vox
> gain brought up on the menu, slowly advance the gain until the vox reliably
> triggers.  Of course, be sure you have enabled the bias.  If you haven't,
> neither the vox nor the mike will work, assuming you have the Pro set with
> the IC element.
>
> Of course voice volume varies, but for what it is worth, I get very reliable
> vox triggering with the vox gain at about 9 or so.
>
> Bruce-W8FU
>

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[KK7P]

> Mic gain should NEVER have any influence on Vox gain.

Mic Gain should always be adjusted to provide 4+ bars of "ALC"
indication on the K3.  This indicates sufficient audio level for proper
operation of the transmitter, including VOX, CMP, AM modulation and FM
deviation among other things.

The VOX system gets its audio signal after the Mic amplifier, so this
setting also normalizes the VOX system.  Thus, one VOX setting is all
that is required no matter which audio source (FP MIC, RP MIC, LINE IN)
or microphone you are using.

If VOX Gain was not taken after applying Mic Gain, you'd have to adjust
Mic Gain *and* VOX gain every time you used a different microphone or
other transmit audio source.  We have many users who routinely use
different microphones on their K3s, so normalizing the VOX system gain
was a deliberate system design decision.

73,

Lyle KK7P
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[Jan Erik Holm]

Thanks for the explanation, I understand how it´s done,
however I see it in a different way, sorry.

73 Jim SM2EKM
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Lyle Johnson wrote:

>> Mic gain should NEVER have any influence on Vox gain.
>
> Mic Gain should always be adjusted to provide 4+ bars of "ALC"
> indication on the K3.  This indicates sufficient audio level for proper
> operation of the transmitter, including VOX, CMP, AM modulation and FM
> deviation among other things.
>
> The VOX system gets its audio signal after the Mic amplifier, so this
> setting also normalizes the VOX system.  Thus, one VOX setting is all
> that is required no matter which audio source (FP MIC, RP MIC, LINE IN)
> or microphone you are using.
>
> If VOX Gain was not taken after applying Mic Gain, you'd have to adjust
> Mic Gain *and* VOX gain every time you used a different microphone or
> other transmit audio source.  We have many users who routinely use
> different microphones on their K3s, so normalizing the VOX system gain
> was a deliberate system design decision.
>
> 73,
>
> Lyle KK7P

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Lyle,

Lyle Johnson schrieb am 23 Jan 2009 um 1:55:

> If VOX Gain was not taken after applying Mic Gain, you'd have to adjust Mic
> Gain *and* VOX gain every time you used a different microphone or other
> transmit audio source.  We have many users who routinely use different
> microphones on their K3s, so normalizing the VOX system gain was a
> deliberate system design decision.

I am one of those...
do you plan to make the high / low impedance setting for rear and front
microphone sticky for each of them?
I always have to switch RPH and FPL when I change microphones.


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