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New KPA500/KAT500 question

NK7Z
Hello,

I have a K3, and a P3, connected to a computer.  I now have a KAT500,
and a KPA500.

I do not see a full cabling diagram for the entire setup.  Does one
exist?  If so, where can I obtain it?

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73s and thanks,
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Re: New KPA500/KAT500 question

Don Wilhelm
Dave,

Open the KAT500 manual to page 5 and see the cabling diagram depicted there.

There is no relationship between the K3 and P3 for considerations with
the amplifier and ATU.

If you have a K3S - the P3 connects to the P3 with the RS232 connector
and not the ACC connector, so there is no conflict.

If you have the K3S or a K3 upgraded with the KIO3B, then download the
latest P3 manual and look at the cabling on page 5.  You will need the
CBLP3Y to connect it as shown there.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 2/16/2019 7:51 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a K3, and a P3, connected to a computer.  I now have a KAT500,
> and a KPA500.
>
> I do not see a full cabling diagram for the entire setup.  Does one
> exist?  If so, where can I obtain it?
>
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Re: New KPA500/KAT500 question

NK7Z
Don,

Thank you for helping, and thank you for indulging a newcomer to
Elecraft hardware, beyond the K3/P3.

As you can imagine I am excited to get this connected up, but being very
careful!  Hence the questions here, and thank you again!

To clarify what I have now:
I have a K3, (not S, with the RS-232 port, not USB), for external
communications.

Can you expand on:

"There is no relationship between the K3 and P3 for considerations with
the amplifier and ATU."

What does this mean exactly?

My assumption set:
I am expecting the K3 to provide some sort of signal, (other than RF
into the amp, from the K3, in order to provide band switching
signaling), in order for the KAT/KPA to know what band they are supposed
to be on, and then switch to that band and tuning  solution.

Is that a correct assumption on my part, or in my case, (not a K3S),
does the amp/tuner derive band information from the RF leaving the K3?

I bought used, and am unsure what the original owner had-- a K3 or K3S,
so I may not have the correct cable set for a K3.  I will query the
previous owner tomorrow about this.

I am also giving a lot of info here that may not be relevant, as I am
assuming I know almost nothing about connecting this setup together,
given I can't locate a cabling diagram for the entire setup I have.

Again, thank you for the assistance here...

73s and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
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On 2/16/19 5:26 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Dave,
>
> Open the KAT500 manual to page 5 and see the cabling diagram depicted
> there.
>
> There is no relationship between the K3 and P3 for considerations with
> the amplifier and ATU.
>
> If you have a K3S - the P3 connects to the P3 with the RS232 connector
> and not the ACC connector, so there is no conflict.
>
> If you have the K3S or a K3 upgraded with the KIO3B, then download the
> latest P3 manual and look at the cabling on page 5.  You will need the
> CBLP3Y to connect it as shown there.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
> On 2/16/2019 7:51 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a K3, and a P3, connected to a computer.  I now have a KAT500,
>> and a KPA500.
>>
>> I do not see a full cabling diagram for the entire setup.  Does one
>> exist?  If so, where can I obtain it?
>>
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Re: New KPA500/KAT500 question

Cady, Fred-2
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Hi Dave,

The pdf files you will find at http://www.ke7x.com/home/k-line-introduction-and-set-up-guide may be of some help.

73,

Fred KE7X



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Subject: [Elecraft] New KPA500/KAT500 question

Hello,

I have a K3, and a P3, connected to a computer.  I now have a KAT500,
and a KPA500.

I do not see a full cabling diagram for the entire setup.  Does one
exist?  If so, where can I obtain it?

--
73s and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
Award Manager, 30MDG Grid Awards
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL OOC for Oregon
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Re: New KPA500/KAT500 question

NK7Z
Many thanks to all!  I figured it out!  I was looking to move the band
data and thought it came from the data connection, not the AUX connection.

My own preconceived ideas were holding me back from understanding the
process...  Broke it down into little single steps...  Connected
everything that way, and it worked first time...

With everyone's help I finally got past the assumptions set I had...
Now all is well.

What an absolutely cool little amp this is...  It is so quiet...  I am
used to large clunking amps...  First time I have operated full break in
on CW!  So nice...

The fellow I bought it from is getting a KPA1500...  Can't wait for that
one...

THANKS TO ALL that helped!


73s and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
Award Manager, 30MDG Grid Awards
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL OOC for Oregon

On 2/16/19 7:36 PM, Cady, Fred wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> The pdf files you will find at
> http://www.ke7x.com/home/k-line-introduction-and-set-up-guide may be of
> some help.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred KE7X
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> <[hidden email]>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 16, 2019 5:51 PM
> *To:* Elecraft Reflector
> *Subject:* [Elecraft] New KPA500/KAT500 question
> Hello,
>
> I have a K3, and a P3, connected to a computer.  I now have a KAT500,
> and a KPA500.
>
> I do not see a full cabling diagram for the entire setup.  Does one
> exist?  If so, where can I obtain it?
>
> --
> 73s and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> Award Manager, 30MDG Grid Awards
> ARRL Technical Specialist
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL OOC for Oregon
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Re: New KPA500/KAT500 question

Don Wilhelm
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Dave,

I see that you have it figured out.

As to your question - the K3 and P3 connect together using the IF out
coax and the RS-232 connection.

The KAT500/KPA500 connect using the AUX cable - that is no
interconnection between the P3 and the KAT500/KPA500, they are entirely
separate.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/16/2019 9:06 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote:


>
> Can you expand on:
>
> "There is no relationship between the K3 and P3 for considerations with
> the amplifier and ATU."
>
> What does this mean exactly?
>
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Re: New KPA500/KAT500 question

NK7Z
Thanks Don, that was what I needed to hear on your first post.  After I
figured out that nothing goes through the P3 from the K3 to the KAT500,
things made a lot more sense...

What a nice setup I have now...  I will be selling my ALS-1306, and
Palstar HF-AUTO as a result of getting this little amp...  Three db
difference is nothing to worry about, so 500 watts is great...  Got a
chance to use it today on the EU opening on 20...  How nice it is in
CW...  I have never run full break-in, over the past 50 years of being a
ham...  Should have tried it long ago!  :)

Thank you for the help!

73s and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
Award Manager, 30MDG Grid Awards
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL OOC for Oregon

On 2/17/19 6:29 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Dave,
>
> I see that you have it figured out.
>
> As to your question - the K3 and P3 connect together using the IF out
> coax and the RS-232 connection.
>
> The KAT500/KPA500 connect using the AUX cable - that is no
> interconnection between the P3 and the KAT500/KPA500, they are entirely
> separate.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 2/16/2019 9:06 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Can you expand on:
>>
>> "There is no relationship between the K3 and P3 for considerations
>> with the amplifier and ATU."
>>
>> What does this mean exactly?
>>
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