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New KX3 - No SSB output

kb3ils
Happy Thanksgiving to all!

My Thanksgiving Eve was great when the UPS man walked up and delivered the long desired KX3. I spent the next few hours putting the kit together and it felt like it went together without a hitch. I then decided to make my first QSO and wanted it to be DX so I worked a bunch of stations in the Carribbean on CW and it was great. I worked a few more this morning as well.

I decided to test out SSB....and seem to be running into an issue. I don't think I am getting any power out. When I key the Elecraft mic, the TX light does come on but the power meter does not show any output. I see one vertical bar above the RF initial on the RF meter. It does go up higher (to 12) when I am on CW. The SWR meter does not show any vertical bars when trying to transmit on SSB. I get one one bar when I transmit on CW. My ANT is a Steppir vertical so it is resonant on the frees.

I am powering it with an Astron power supply that I used on my 100W rigs...so I think I am fine there.

I did follow the steps on page 15 of the operating guide to setup Voice....no luck.

Any ideas/thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

73 de Keith KB3ILS


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Re: New KX3 - No SSB output

Bob N3MNT
What are you seeing on the ALC meter?  What Mic?  Sounds like you have no audio drive. Check mic settings.  Do you hear your audio in the monitor?
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Re: New KX3 - No SSB output

Don Wilhelm-4
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Keith,

Do you have the mic plug in all the way?  Remove it and plug it in again.
Did you turn on bias?  The MH3 needs that to be on.
Do you have your mic gain set to a high value?  If so, turn it down to a
low level - set compression to zero initially.
Then bring up the mic gain until you see 5 to 7 bars illuminated on the
ALC meter - that is the correct audio drive for voice modes.
Once you have achieved that indication, you can add a bit of compression
- 3 to 6 dB is the usual range, too much and you will distort (you have
heard those signals on the air during a contest). Set the desired power
with the power knob and you should be 'good to go'.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/26/2015 9:33 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
> I decided to test out SSB....and seem to be running into an issue. I don't think I am getting any power out. When I key the Elecraft mic, the TX light does come on but the power meter does not show any output. I see one vertical bar above the RF initial on the RF meter. It does go up higher (to 12) when I am on CW. The SWR meter does not show any vertical bars when trying to transmit on SSB. I get one one bar when I transmit on CW. My ANT is a Steppir vertical so it is resonant on the frees.
>
>

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Re: New KX3 - No SSB output

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Bob and others,

The ALC meter is not moving at all...not a single bar. I am using the Elecraft MH3 that came with the KX3. I do hear myself in the monitor.

I double-checked to make sure the Power Setting was not at 0....I saw some blog postings around people doing that by accident. I have the Mic setting at 4 (manual recommends 3-5). When I move it up and down and listen in Mon...I can hear the Mic settings making a difference in Mon but nothing happens on the ALC at all.

I checked the cable fit....it is all the way in.

MicBias = On


73 de Keith KB3ILS



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Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 9:43:01 AM
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What are you seeing on the ALC meter? What Mic? Sounds like you have no
audio drive. Check mic settings. Do you hear your audio in the monitor?



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Re: New KX3 - No SSB output

Grant Youngman
I‘m not sure what you mean by “mic setting” at 3-5.  Have you tried setting the mic gain higher?  I keep mine at about 25 for the MH3.  Works fine.

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091, KX3 #8342




> On Nov 26, 2015, at 9:01 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>
> Bob and others,
>
> The ALC meter is not moving at all...not a single bar. I am using the Elecraft MH3 that came with the KX3. I do hear myself in the monitor.
>
> I double-checked to make sure the Power Setting was not at 0....I saw some blog postings around people doing that by accident. I have the Mic setting at 4 (manual recommends 3-5). When I move it up and down and listen in Mon...I can hear the Mic settings making a difference in Mon but nothing happens on the ALC at all.
>
> I checked the cable fit....it is all the way in.
>
> MicBias = On
>
>

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Re: New KX3 - No SSB output

kb3ils
I think that is it! I was mis-reading the manual....it is the Mon setting that should not be higher than 3-5 or you get clipping. I moved it up tp 25 as you suggest...and the ALC bars are moving. I will try to see about making a contact before the crowd shows up for Thanksgiving in a bit and see how it works. 20M SSB seems to be hopping.

I also noticed that its quite specific to how you hold the mic. I don't use a mic much. I am mostly on CW and when I do SSB on my other rig, I use the boom mike on the Heil headset. Moving my mouth just a bit makes the ACL readings very different. I want SSB to work for some things such as SOTA operations.

Thanks for the help and I hope everyone has a happy and safe Thanksgiving and enjoys some football!

73 de Keith KB3ILS


----- Original Message -----

From: "GRANT YOUNGMAN" <[hidden email]>
To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 11:01:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New KX3 - No SSB output

I‘m not sure what you mean by “mic setting” at 3-5. Have you tried setting the mic gain higher? I keep mine at about 25 for the MH3. Works fine.

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091, KX3 #8342




> On Nov 26, 2015, at 9:01 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>
> Bob and others,
>
> The ALC meter is not moving at all...not a single bar. I am using the Elecraft MH3 that came with the KX3. I do hear myself in the monitor.
>
> I double-checked to make sure the Power Setting was not at 0....I saw some blog postings around people doing that by accident. I have the Mic setting at 4 (manual recommends 3-5). When I move it up and down and listen in Mon...I can hear the Mic settings making a difference in Mon but nothing happens on the ALC at all.
>
> I checked the cable fit....it is all the way in.
>
> MicBias = On
>
>

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Re: New KX3 - No SSB output

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RE:  I have the Mic setting at 4 (manual recommends 3-5). 
Page 15 of the manual recommends the MONITOR set to 3-5, not mic gain.  It also says "Mic gain for the Elecraft MH3 us typically 15-25."
I suspect your mic gain if set at 3 to 5 is too low.
MarkKE6BB
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Re: New KX3 - No SSB output

kb3ils

I just worked the Canary Islands on 15M SSB.......I guess it works now!

Thanks for all the help from everyone. I was worried that despite all the warnings in the manual I had swapped one bolt or stand-off and had something touching and causing an issue.

I am looking forward to spending some time tomorrow reading through the manual and learning how to really use this thing. The weather today would be awesome here in PA for a portable operation....but it's family and football.

73 de Keith KB3ILS

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RE: I have the Mic setting at 4 (manual recommends 3-5).

Page 15 of the manual recommends the MONITOR set to 3-5, not mic gain. It also says "Mic gain for the Elecraft MH3 us typically 15-25."

I suspect your mic gain if set at 3 to 5 is too low.

Mark
KE6BB


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