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I just got my K3 back from Watsonville where I had the Sub RX, KIO3B and
other mods installed. First ever QSO with my new KRX3A: TN5R on 20m CW. Beat the pileup while listening to both sides. TOTALLY AWESOME! Didn't realize how powerful a tool it is having that 2nd RX. I'm a true believer now ;) Time to plan a couple receiving antennas! 73 de K1AY Chris -- Life is like Linux - it never stands still. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Nice work, Chris. Which band?
Wayne N6KR ---- http://www.elecraft.com > On Mar 10, 2018, at 1:26 PM, Chris Hallinan <[hidden email]> wrote: > I just got my K3 back from Watsonville where I had the Sub RX, KIO3B and > other mods installed. > > First ever QSO with my new KRX3A: TN5R on 20m CW. Beat the pileup while > listening to both sides. > > TOTALLY AWESOME! > > Didn't realize how powerful a tool it is having that 2nd RX. I'm a true > believer now ;) > Time to plan a couple receiving antennas! > > 73 de K1AY > Chris > > -- > Life is like Linux - it never stands still. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Chris, the second receiver sure makes a difference when using diversity. I use antennas well separated, one vertical and one loop. Amazing how the band condx can change. Nice to have the reception be instantaneous with my stereo speakers.
73, Bill K9YEQ -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Chris Hallinan Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 3:27 PM To: <[hidden email]> <[hidden email]> Subject: [Elecraft] New Sub RX I just got my K3 back from Watsonville where I had the Sub RX, KIO3B and other mods installed. First ever QSO with my new KRX3A: TN5R on 20m CW. Beat the pileup while listening to both sides. TOTALLY AWESOME! Didn't realize how powerful a tool it is having that 2nd RX. I'm a true believer now ;) Time to plan a couple receiving antennas! 73 de K1AY Chris -- Life is like Linux - it never stands still. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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But now I need three receivers. Two for diversity and one to scan the pileup.
73 Bill AE6JV On 3/10/18 at 2:46 PM, [hidden email] (Bill Johnson) wrote: > Chris, the second receiver sure makes a difference when using diversity. I use antennas well > separated, one vertical and one loop. Amazing how the band condx can change. Nice to have the > reception be instantaneous with my stereo speakers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Truth and love must prevail | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | over lies and hate. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | - Vaclav Havel | Los Gatos, CA 95032 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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>But now I need three receivers. Two for diversity and one to scan the
pileup. K4 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Actually, I sometimes find myself switching diversity on and off while trying to break a pileup when the dx station is particularly weak. The P3 + VGA is helpful in spotting when diversity is on and I can’t hear the pileup.
Vic 4X6GP > On 12 Mar 2018, at 22:23, Ralph Parker <[hidden email]> wrote: > > >But now I need three receivers. Two for diversity and one to scan the pileup. > > K4 > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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>I sometimes find myself switching diversity on and off while trying to
break a pileup when the dx station is particularly weak. >The P3 + VGA is helpful in spotting when diversity is on and I can’t hear the pileup. When my diversity is in use, I can get by fairly well in deciphering the pileup by using the "REV" function. Then the diversity mode stays on. VE7XF ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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And I got the sub-receiver because I kept confusing the tuning
knobs when using REV. It greatly improved my life in pileups. 73 Bill AE6JV On 3/12/18 at 4:56 PM, [hidden email] (Ralph Parker) wrote: >>I sometimes find myself switching diversity on and off while trying to break a pileup when the dx >station is particularly weak. >>The P3 + VGA is helpful in spotting when diversity is on and I can’t hear the pileup. > >When my diversity is in use, I can get by fairly well in >deciphering the pileup by using the "REV" function. >Then the diversity mode stays on. > >VE7XF ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Since the IBM Selectric, keyboards have gotten 408-356-8506 | steadily worse. Now we have touchscreen keyboards. www.pwpconsult.com | Can we make something even worse? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Lock VFO A on the DX. My "Split" macros do exactly that.
Wes N7WS On 3/12/2018 5:01 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: > And I got the sub-receiver because I kept confusing the tuning knobs when > using REV. It greatly improved my life in pileups. > > 73 Bill AE6JV ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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My trick is to use the Pigknob or K-Pod on the subrx frequency. That
keeps two big knobs away from each other. The other trick is to put CW maros on the buttons. It made working the W1AW/50 stations a lot of fun a couple of years ago. On Mon, 12 Mar 2018, Wes Stewart wrote: > Lock VFO A on the DX. My "Split" macros do exactly that. > > Wes N7WS > > On 3/12/2018 5:01 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: >> And I got the sub-receiver because I kept confusing the tuning knobs when >> using REV. It greatly improved my life in pileups. >> >> 73 Bill AE6JV > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - [hidden email] BSEE + BSChem + BAEnglish + MSCS + $2.50 = coffee ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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> But now I need three receivers. Two for diversity and one to scan the > pileup. Get CW Skimmer and enable its "599" function. You don't even need to listen to the pileup since you can watch for the last "599" in the spectrum display and move your TX there. Here's a macro I wrote in 2011 with details: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Pileup-Buster-Macro-td6579405.html 73, Bill W4ZV -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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What happened to using your ears to find the station being worked?
73 Bill KC4IM > On Mar 13, 2018, at 5:57 AM, Bill W4ZV <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Bill Frantz wrote >> But now I need three receivers. Two for diversity and one to scan the >> pileup. > > Get CW Skimmer and enable its "599" function. You don't even need to listen > to the pileup since you can watch for the last "599" in the spectrum display > and move your TX there. Here's a macro I wrote in 2011 with details: > > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Pileup-Buster-Macro-td6579405.html > > 73, Bill W4ZV > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 6:07 AM, Bill Rowlett <[hidden email]> wrote:
What happened to using your ears to find the station being worked? That works too...but then you truly DO need a third receiver if you want to use diversity on the DX station. I don't know how many truly massive CW pileups you've ever been in but you can spend HOURS when you can spend MINUTES by using CW Skimmer. This comes from an OT who has 385 confirmed overall since 1957. 73, Bill W4ZV ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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That works fine IF you're a big signal at the DX QTH, but not so well if
you're not. When, for example, you're in W6 trying to work AF through EU and the east coast, who are 20 dB louder. For that, you've gotta be a bit smarter. 73, Jim K9YC On 3/13/2018 2:57 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote: > Get CW Skimmer and enable its "599" function. You don't even need to listen > to the pileup since you can watch for the last "599" in the spectrum display > and move your TX there. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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> That works fine IF you're a big signal at the DX QTH, but not so well if > you're not. When, for example, you're in W6 trying to work AF through EU > and the east coast, who are 20 dB louder. For that, you've gotta be a > bit smarter. I guess my 30 years in Colorado made me doubly smart, since I had to work through BOTH coasts. :-)) And I never once complained about either. 73, Bill W4ZV -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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In K3 diversity mode, press and hold the REV button and tune the pile with the Main knob VFO A. Release the REV button and you're back to diversity RX on the desired signal. If you have a P3 it will give you clues on where to scan the pile.
GL - Steve WB6RSE On Mar 13, 2018, at 2:57 AM, Bill W4ZV <[hidden email]> wrote: Bill Frantz wrote > But now I need three receivers. Two for diversity and one to scan the > pileup. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I still use my ears.
And I don't use skimmer, automatic tuning via spots, remote stations, etc. I also have only a single receiver K3S, KPA500 and very modest antennas. (See my QRZ page) Yet for example in the last few days, I've managed to work XR0YD on all bands and modes they've operated on that count*, except for 40-meter SSB. (25 of 33 slots) I do have a K-Pod but for me the knob just gets in the way of the buttons and I never use it. * I broke down and worked them on a couple of slots on FT8 just for the heck of it, but I won't claim them. Wes On 3/13/2018 3:07 AM, Bill Rowlett wrote: > What happened to using your ears to find the station being worked? > > 73 Bill KC4IM > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I worked the XR0YD on 40M with 5 watts, one call. The KX3 is a cool rig!
K4TO On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Wes Stewart <[hidden email]> wrote: > I still use my ears. > > And I don't use skimmer, automatic tuning via spots, remote stations, > etc. I also have only a single receiver K3S, KPA500 and very modest > antennas. (See my QRZ page) Yet for example in the last few days, I've > managed to work XR0YD on all bands and modes they've operated on that > count*, except for 40-meter SSB. (25 of 33 slots) > > I do have a K-Pod but for me the knob just gets in the way of the buttons > and I never use it. > > * I broke down and worked them on a couple of slots on FT8 just for the > heck of it, but I won't claim them. > > Wes > > On 3/13/2018 3:07 AM, Bill Rowlett wrote: > >> What happened to using your ears to find the station being worked? >> >> 73 Bill KC4IM >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I’ve always had a single receiver, modest antennas, and 100 watts, and have
worked many of the DXpeditions over the years. However, it seems like it’s getting more difficult lately to figure out the pileups just by listening. I don’t know if it’s the ‘constant callers’ that keep calling while the DX is working someone else, or the fact that some of the DX is hopping around without a discernible pattern (perhaps clicking on a panadapter to work the station that’s in the clear at that moment). Maybe my skills at reading the pileup are no longer sufficient (not that I have ever been a DX expert). Anyhow, I’m thinking about trying some of these newer ideas like a local skimmer and/or a sub receiver. Just for fun last night, I tried listening to the 3C0W pileup with my KX2, using the ‘dual watch’ capability that’s built in. I found it was pretty easy to find the station working the DX that way, so maybe a sub receiver for the K3 would be worthwhile. Maybe I’ll have to visit one of my friends who already has the sub to try it out. My main (self-imposed) criteria for DXCC is that I work them with my own station from one location (here in the RF black hole of the Midwest). To each his own I guess! On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 5:12 PM Dave Sublette <[hidden email]> wrote: > I worked the XR0YD on 40M with 5 watts, one call. The KX3 is a cool rig! > > K4TO > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Wes Stewart <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > > I still use my ears. > > > > And I don't use skimmer, automatic tuning via spots, remote stations, > > etc. I also have only a single receiver K3S, KPA500 and very modest > > antennas. (See my QRZ page) Yet for example in the last few days, I've > > managed to work XR0YD on all bands and modes they've operated on that > > count*, except for 40-meter SSB. (25 of 33 slots) > > > > I do have a K-Pod but for me the knob just gets in the way of the buttons > > and I never use it. > > > > * I broke down and worked them on a couple of slots on FT8 just for the > > heck of it, but I won't claim them. > > > > Wes > > > > On 3/13/2018 3:07 AM, Bill Rowlett wrote: > > > >> What happened to using your ears to find the station being worked? > >> > >> 73 Bill KC4IM > >> > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Dave,
Yes, you will find the SubRX will be a benefit for working DX - similar to the dual watch on the KX2 - although the K3/K3X subRX will provide a lot more capability, monitoring other bands with the subRX (with VFO IND menu set on is just one 'for instance'). The P3 also adds another layer of helpfulness for DX or contesting operation. It helps you to know where and when to transmit when trying to snag that elusive DX station. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/13/2018 7:24 PM, Dave Fugleberg wrote: > I’ve always had a single receiver, modest antennas, and 100 watts, and have > worked many of the DXpeditions over the years. However, it seems like it’s > getting more difficult lately to figure out the pileups just by listening. > I don’t know if it’s the ‘constant callers’ that keep calling while the DX > is working someone else, or the fact that some of the DX is hopping around > without a discernible pattern (perhaps clicking on a panadapter to work the > station that’s in the clear at that moment). Maybe my skills at reading the > pileup are no longer sufficient (not that I have ever been a DX expert). > Anyhow, I’m thinking about trying some of these newer ideas like a local > skimmer and/or a sub receiver. > Just for fun last night, I tried listening to the 3C0W pileup with my KX2, > using the ‘dual watch’ capability that’s built in. I found it was pretty > easy to find the station working the DX that way, so maybe a sub receiver > for the K3 would be worthwhile. > Maybe I’ll have to visit one of my friends who already has the sub to try > it out. Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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