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I must admit, I tend to use my eyes on the P3 and then confirm
what I see by listening on the sub-receiver. Of course, when the DX is very weak, I need diversity to be able to hear him, hence the 3rd receiver. My standard DXing pose is eyes glued to the P3, looking for the last caller and for open spaces to squeeze in a signal. Just going to the frequency of the last caller doesn't work really well because everyone else is there. 73 Bill AE6JV On 3/13/18 at 3:18 AM, [hidden email] (Bill Tippett) wrote: >On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 6:07 AM, Bill Rowlett <[hidden email]> wrote: > >What happened to using your ears to find the station being worked? > > >That works too...but then you truly DO need a third receiver if you want to >use diversity on the DX station. I don't know how many truly massive CW >pileups you've ever been in but you can spend HOURS when you can spend >MINUTES by using CW Skimmer. This comes from an OT who has 385 confirmed >overall since 1957. > >73, Bill W4ZV ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | I like the farmers' market | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | because I can get fruits and | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | vegetables without stickers. | Los Gatos, CA 95032 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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None of this works when the DX stations remove all possibility of skill making a
difference when they have zero pattern to their operation. It's as if they randomly spin the dial after every QSO and if you happen to be lucky (and strong) they hear you. Otherwise, you can spend hours of wasted time. A couple of west African DXpeditions currently operating leap to mind. OTOH, TN5R was very predicable on 160 about an hour ago and I worked him with my modest station for a new one. Wes N7WS On 3/13/2018 9:48 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: > I must admit, I tend to use my eyes on the P3 and then confirm what I see by > listening on the sub-receiver. Of course, when the DX is very weak, I need > diversity to be able to hear him, hence the 3rd receiver. > > My standard DXing pose is eyes glued to the P3, looking for the last caller > and for open spaces to squeeze in a signal. Just going to the frequency of the > last caller doesn't work really well because everyone else is there. > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > On 3/13/18 at 3:18 AM, [hidden email] (Bill Tippett) wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 6:07 AM, Bill Rowlett <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> What happened to using your ears to find the station being worked? >> >> >> That works too...but then you truly DO need a third receiver if you want to >> use diversity on the DX station. I don't know how many truly massive CW >> pileups you've ever been in but you can spend HOURS when you can spend >> MINUTES by using CW Skimmer. This comes from an OT who has 385 confirmed >> overall since 1957. >> >> 73, Bill W4ZV > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | I like the farmers' market | Periwinkle > (408)356-8506 | because I can get fruits and | 16345 Englewood Ave > www.pwpconsult.com | vegetables without stickers. | Los Gatos, CA 95032 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I'm going to try to think like an op on a DXpedition, which is
hard since I've never been one. I do know that what happens whenever I finish a QSO is an impenetrable wall of sound because there are at least 6 stations, all on that last frequency. Assume I'm operating split with VFO B locked on my transmit frequency. Particularly if I am using automation to send my "TU DX1STA UP" response, I could spend the time that message is being sent, tuning the receiver in my radio to pick a track on the waterfall in a far corner of the pileup. I can now start listening where I might hear something quickly and keep my rate up. I do remember one of the big DXpeditions writing on their web site something to the effect of, "Just stay in one place. We'll find you." Of course, with low power and lots of strong stations nearer to the DX, that formula means a long slog. 73 Bill AE6JV On 3/13/18 at 10:24 PM, [hidden email] (Wes Stewart) wrote: >None of this works when the DX stations remove all possibility >of skill making a difference when they have zero pattern to >their operation. It's as if they randomly spin the dial after >every QSO and if you happen to be lucky (and strong) they hear >you. Otherwise, you can spend hours of wasted time. A couple >of west African DXpeditions currently operating leap to mind. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Truth and love must prevail | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | over lies and hate. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | - Vaclav Havel | Los Gatos, CA 95032 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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With respect to Bill,
in contests - there is no UP - There is QRZ ?? but up UP !! When life Gets tough in contests - Turn the Yagi AWAY ! - Hitt ATT -Reduce Power Regards Tim, A45WG > On Mar 14, 2018, at 10:13 PM, Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I'm going to try to think like an op on a DXpedition, which is hard since I've never been one. I do know that what happens whenever I finish a QSO is an impenetrable wall of sound because there are at least 6 stations, all on that last frequency. Assume I'm operating split with VFO B locked on my transmit frequency. Particularly if I am using automation to send my "TU DX1STA UP" response, I could spend the time that message is being sent, tuning the receiver in my radio to pick a track on the waterfall in a far corner of the pileup. I can now start listening where I might hear something quickly and keep my rate up. > > I do remember one of the big DXpeditions writing on their web site something to the effect of, "Just stay in one place. We'll find you." Of course, with low power and lots of strong stations nearer to the DX, that formula means a long slog. > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > On 3/13/18 at 10:24 PM, [hidden email] (Wes Stewart) wrote: > >> None of this works when the DX stations remove all possibility of skill making a difference when they have zero pattern to their operation. It's as if they randomly spin the dial after every QSO and if you happen to be lucky (and strong) they hear you. Otherwise, you can spend hours of wasted time. A couple of west African DXpeditions currently operating leap to mind. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | Truth and love must prevail | Periwinkle > (408)356-8506 | over lies and hate. | 16345 Englewood Ave > www.pwpconsult.com | - Vaclav Havel | Los Gatos, CA 95032 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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In reply to this post by Vic Rosenthal
I use the K-Pod to switch. I have commands to go to diversity and then one to cancel it all. Crude commands at this point but for as little as I use the upper bands based on antennas and ability with the sunspot cycle, not on a high priority for now, It is relatively quick. But then I don't chase I only work directly on Freq. Your use might be helped by some macros available on the K3(s).
73, Bill K9YEQ -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Vic Rosenthal Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 3:36 PM To: Ralph Parker <[hidden email]> Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Sub RX Actually, I sometimes find myself switching diversity on and off while trying to break a pileup when the dx station is particularly weak. The P3 + VGA is helpful in spotting when diversity is on and I can’t hear the pileup. Vic 4X6GP > On 12 Mar 2018, at 22:23, Ralph Parker <[hidden email]> wrote: > > >But now I need three receivers. Two for diversity and one to scan the pileup. > > K4 > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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In reply to this post by Ralph Parker-2
Great suggestion. I do link my VFO's so I need to change that.
73, Bill K9YEQ -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Ralph Parker Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 6:57 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Sub RX >I sometimes find myself switching diversity on and off while trying to break a pileup when the dx station is particularly weak. >The P3 + VGA is helpful in spotting when diversity is on and I can’t hear the pileup. When my diversity is in use, I can get by fairly well in deciphering the pileup by using the "REV" function. Then the diversity mode stays on. VE7XF ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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