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John E. Reiser
Hi All,

I inadvertently deleted the message concerning the graphic of the new K3 front panel.  Would anyone be able to send me the url where I can find it?

Thanks and 73,

John, W2GW

K3 (2nd run)

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Re: New picture - K3 front panel

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John Reiser wrote:
> Hi All,
> I inadvertently deleted the message concerning the graphic
> Thanks and 73,
> John, W2GW
> K3 (2nd run)
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Re: New picture - K3 front panel

M0XDF
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This ones good, because it has lots of pics and you can compare
http://www.n4lcd.com/k3


On 4/9/07 15:50, "John Reiser" <[hidden email]> sent:

> Hi All,
>
> I inadvertently deleted the message concerning the graphic of the new K3 front
> panel.  Would anyone be able to send me the url where I can find it?
>
> Thanks and 73,
>
> John, W2GW
>
> K3 (2nd run)
>
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RE: New picture - K3 front panel

Edward Dickinson, III
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http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3%20FP%20drawing_web.jpg
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 10:51 AM
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Subject: [Elecraft] New picture - K3 front panel

Hi All,

I inadvertently deleted the message concerning the graphic of the new K3
front panel.  Would anyone be able to send me the url where I can find it?

Thanks and 73,

John, W2GW

K3 (2nd run)

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K3 front panel

Charly
WOW, what a beautiful radio.... re the new pic.

However, examining the front, I see that VOX on and off is slaved with the
"band switch" (such as it is).  That will be very frustrating well after I
get used to all the other odd controls.  That is, I switch off my VOX when
someone comes in the room, and many other times.  I have been continually
frustrated with my Mk5 and 775dsp that neither has an easily visible VOX on
or off, altho they do have separate switches for same.  Now the K3 puts that
control on with the band sw, and I can see I will have to think extra to
avoid changing bands just to control the VOX, quite irritating in my world.  
Another super example of making the panel too small for this feature-packed
radio.

I hrd rumor that the Elecraft guys started with their idea of an ideal
package size and worked all the rest of the rig into that predetermined
idea.  Sorry, but backward thinking....  design the features and then size
the package to fit the features.... the cart and horse strikes again.

Before using the K3, my thot is now to have an ORION and a K3 instead of two
K3s so that my need for a real panel will be satisfied.

But, keep my order for my K3 active.........  73

Charles Harpole
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RE: K3 front panel

Craig Rairdin
> I hrd rumor that the Elecraft guys started with their idea of an ideal
> package size and worked all the rest of the rig into that predetermined
> idea.  Sorry, but backward thinking....  design the features and then
> size the package to fit the features.... the cart and horse strikes
> again.

This is only true if package size isn't a priority. If it is, then it's a
feature that, as you say, has to be designed-in before other less important
considerations are implemented.

Whatever your priorities are in design should determine what else you can
do, and how you should do it. Elecraft values effortless portability over a
completely simple (one control per function) user interface. That may not
match your priorities. They could just as easily say that you're thinking
backwards because you could end up with a rig that is too big to be easily
portable.

So the issue isn't backwards thinking, it's different design priorities.

I have limited space and relatively frequent transportation of the radio. So
it works for me.

Craig
NZ0R


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Re: K3 front panel

wayne burdick
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On Sep 4, 2007, at 8:39 AM, Charles Harpole wrote:

> WOW, what a beautiful radio.... re the new pic.

Thanks, Charles.


>
> However, examining the front, I see that VOX on and off is slaved with
> the "band switch" (such as it is).

I don't think "slaved" is the right word. There's no functional
relationship between the two. VOX is activated by a hold of the switch,
while band change is a tap. The two actions are totally distinct, and
after you get your K3, this will become second nature in about two
seconds.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



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RE: K3 front panel

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Re: K3 front panel

Tom Hammond-2
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Charles:

>I have been continually frustrated with my Mk5 and 775dsp that
>neither has an easily visible VOX on or off, altho they do have
>separate switches for same.

The LCD display shows "VOX" when it is enabled.

73,

Tom   N0SS

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Re: K3 front panel

David F. Reed
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Ron,

you forgot a few criteria; that it would be sold for a cost we can all
afford and make a profit for Elecraft.

Truly you are correct in seeing this as the art of aiming at a
specification that meets a good blend of these; good compromises that we
will want.

73 de Dave, W5SV

Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

> All engineering involves compromise.
>
> The ideal rig would have every feature ever dreamed of, put out full legal
> power through its internal ATU that matches all impedances on all bands from
> 160 through microwaves, run all modes, have knobs big enough to satisfy the
> most fat-fingered among us, have large, beautiful displays the size of the
> living room wall, have transmitter and receiver technical specifications
> beyond compare, yet fit in the palm our hands and run forever on its
> internal battery supply.
>
> Starting there, the engineer begins to select the compromises needed to
> actually come up with a product.
>
> Mr. Trump speaks of the "Art of the Deal". That's what business is about.
>
> Rig designers speak of the "Art of the Compromise." That's what engineering
> is about.
>
> Ron AC7AC

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RE: New picture - K3 front panel

srife
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        That color scheme is really nice. Is the K3 color scheme changing to
this? I vote yes! It really makes all the labeling stand out nicely.


Stan Rife
W5EWA
Houston, TX
K2 S/N 4216

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New picture - K3 front panel

How about the handy Daily Web Archive list
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John Reiser wrote:
> Hi All,
> I inadvertently deleted the message concerning the graphic
> Thanks and 73,
> John, W2GW
> K3 (2nd run)
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