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john@kk9a.com

New wierd K3s behavior

“I" before "E" except after "C" and when sounding like "A" as in neighbor
and weigh and on weekends and holidays and all throughout May, and YOU'LL
ALWAYS BE WRONG NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY!!!!”

John KK9A

Jim Miller AB3CV wrote:

weird...not wierd...

not enuf coffee...

jim

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 8:11 AM, Jim Miller <jim at jtmiller.com> wrote:

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Tony Estep

Re: New wierd K3s behavior

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:00 AM, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:

> “I" before "E" except after "C" ...

====================
From a story in the Washington Post:

"...Merriam-Webster once facetiously tried to account for all exceptions
<https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/i-before-e-except-after-c> with
the following jingle:

I before e, except after c
Or when sounded as 'a' as in 'neighbor' and 'weigh'
Unless the 'c' is part of a 'sh' sound as in 'glacier'
Or it appears in comparatives and superlatives like 'fancier'
And also except when the vowels are sounded as 'e' as in 'seize'
Or 'i' as in 'height'
Or also in '-ing' inflections ending in '-e' as in 'cueing'
Or in compound words as in 'albeit'
Or occasionally in technical words with strong etymological links to their
parent languages as in 'cuneiform'
Or in other numerous and random exceptions such as 'science', 'forfeit',
and 'weird'."

Tony KT0NY
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Jason Scobbie

Re: New wierd K3s behavior

And my personal favorite, Budweiser…

> On May 22, 2018, at 10:15 AM, Tony Estep <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:00 AM, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> “I" before "E" except after "C" ...
>
> ====================
> From a story in the Washington Post:
>
> "...Merriam-Webster once facetiously tried to account for all exceptions
> <https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/i-before-e-except-after-c> with
> the following jingle:
>
> I before e, except after c
> Or when sounded as 'a' as in 'neighbor' and 'weigh'
> Unless the 'c' is part of a 'sh' sound as in 'glacier'
> Or it appears in comparatives and superlatives like 'fancier'
> And also except when the vowels are sounded as 'e' as in 'seize'
> Or 'i' as in 'height'
> Or also in '-ing' inflections ending in '-e' as in 'cueing'
> Or in compound words as in 'albeit'
> Or occasionally in technical words with strong etymological links to their
> parent languages as in 'cuneiform'
> Or in other numerous and random exceptions such as 'science', 'forfeit',
> and 'weird'."
>
> Tony KT0NY
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k6dgw

Re: New wierd K3s behavior

In reply to this post by Tony Estep

Decades ago, a good friend who was a Royal Lao Air Force officer asked
me if I would assist his daughter with English in preparation for her
secondary school admissions examination. I realized early on that I was
heading for failure while we were on formation of plurals ... dog/dogs,
cat/cats, person/people, goose/geese, moose/moose, sheep/sheep, ... The
Lao language has no plurals so we were starting from scratch. It was at
least an order of magnitude harder than O Chem and we hadn't even gotten
to "i before e ... or not, you choose."

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 5/22/2018 7:15 AM, Tony Estep wrote:

> ====================
> From a story in the Washington Post:
>
> "...Merriam-Webster once facetiously tried to account for all exceptions
> <https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/i-before-e-except-after-c> with
> the following jingle:
>
> I before e, except after c
> Or when sounded as 'a' as in 'neighbor' and 'weigh'
> Unless the 'c' is part of a 'sh' sound as in 'glacier'
> Or it appears in comparatives and superlatives like 'fancier'
> And also except when the vowels are sounded as 'e' as in 'seize'
> Or 'i' as in 'height'
> Or also in '-ing' inflections ending in '-e' as in 'cueing'
> Or in compound words as in 'albeit'
> Or occasionally in technical words with strong etymological links to their
> parent languages as in 'cuneiform'
> Or in other numerous and random exceptions such as 'science', 'forfeit',
> and 'weird'."
>
> Tony KT0NY
>

Henrik Stenstrom

Re: New wierd K3s behavior

In reply to this post by Tony Estep

Not one mention of “receiver” yet.

de VK2HHS

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> On 23 May 2018, at 00:15, Tony Estep <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:00 AM, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> “I" before "E" except after "C" ...
>
> ====================
> From a story in the Washington Post:
>
> "...Merriam-Webster once facetiously tried to account for all exceptions
> <https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/i-before-e-except-after-c> with
> the following jingle:
>
> I before e, except after c
> Or when sounded as 'a' as in 'neighbor' and 'weigh'
> Unless the 'c' is part of a 'sh' sound as in 'glacier'
> Or it appears in comparatives and superlatives like 'fancier'
> And also except when the vowels are sounded as 'e' as in 'seize'
> Or 'i' as in 'height'
> Or also in '-ing' inflections ending in '-e' as in 'cueing'
> Or in compound words as in 'albeit'
> Or occasionally in technical words with strong etymological links to their
> parent languages as in 'cuneiform'
> Or in other numerous and random exceptions such as 'science', 'forfeit',
> and 'weird'."
>
> Tony KT0NY
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Michael Eberle

Re: New wierd K3s behavior

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Mine does this on 6 meters if SPLIT is enabled. Turning SPLIT off and
then pressing TUNE it will put out power. Turn SPLIT back on and TUNE
will put out full power until the next power cycle of the radio.
Strangely, it only happens on 6 meters.

I posted about it here before and was told it was probably an issue with
WSJT-X which doesn't make sense because the radio behaves this way
without WSJT-X even running on my computer. I don't know how WSJT-X
could change the K3 firmware.

Mike - KI0HA

On 5/22/2018 07:11, Jim Miller wrote:

> When I turn on my K3s (and let it finish booting) and try pressing TUNE
> (hold XMIT) I get a zero power indication rather than tune power if in DATA
> A mode.
>
> A quick trip to CW then hitting a few dits on the paddle produces the
> expected 100w barefoot power.
>
> Then returning to DATA A and TUNE and the expected tune power is emitted.
>
> No idea why this would occur and it is a new thing. I have recently updated
> to the latest beta firmware for the enhanced KPA1500 integration. Perhaps a
> bug was introduced there?
>
> Ideas?
>
> Jim ab3cv
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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: New wierd K3s behavior

Although I've not experienced this, with or without having run WSJT-X, I
have experienced some software applications which do not correctly
terminate and thus my leave an erroneous command in the radio. This
can happen if the software application is running or open and the radio
is powered down before the software application is closed. This command
may still be resident even after a power cycle of the radio. I have
always found it best to close any and all of the software application(s)
before powering down the radio. Having done this, most will make a
clean exit.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 5/22/2018 11:00 PM, Michael Eberle wrote:

> Mine does this on 6 meters if SPLIT is enabled. Turning SPLIT off and
> then pressing TUNE it will put out power. Turn SPLIT back on and TUNE
> will put out full power until the next power cycle of the radio.
> Strangely, it only happens on 6 meters.
>
> I posted about it here before and was told it was probably an issue
> with WSJT-X which doesn't make sense because the radio behaves this
> way without WSJT-X even running on my computer. I don't know how
> WSJT-X could change the K3 firmware.
>
> Mike - KI0HA
>
>
> On 5/22/2018 07:11, Jim Miller wrote:
>> When I turn on my K3s (and let it finish booting) and try pressing TUNE
>> (hold XMIT) I get a zero power indication rather than tune power if
>> in DATA
>> A mode.
>>
>> A quick trip to CW then hitting a few dits on the paddle produces the
>> expected 100w barefoot power.
>>
>> Then returning to DATA A and TUNE and the expected tune power is
>> emitted.
>>
>> No idea why this would occur and it is a new thing. I have recently
>> updated
>> to the latest beta firmware for the enhanced KPA1500 integration.
>> Perhaps a
>> bug was introduced there?
>>
>> Ideas?
>>
>> Jim ab3cv
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Jim AB3CV

Re: New wierd K3s behavior

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That's it!

Have you reported this to Wayne?

jim ab3cv

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 12:00 AM, Michael Eberle <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Mine does this on 6 meters if SPLIT is enabled. Turning SPLIT off and then
> pressing TUNE it will put out power. Turn SPLIT back on and TUNE will put
> out full power until the next power cycle of the radio. Strangely, it only
> happens on 6 meters.
>
> I posted about it here before and was told it was probably an issue with
> WSJT-X which doesn't make sense because the radio behaves this way without
> WSJT-X even running on my computer. I don't know how WSJT-X could change
> the K3 firmware.
>
> Mike - KI0HA
>
>
> On 5/22/2018 07:11, Jim Miller wrote:
>
>> When I turn on my K3s (and let it finish booting) and try pressing TUNE
>> (hold XMIT) I get a zero power indication rather than tune power if in
>> DATA
>> A mode.
>>
>> A quick trip to CW then hitting a few dits on the paddle produces the
>> expected 100w barefoot power.
>>
>> Then returning to DATA A and TUNE and the expected tune power is emitted.
>>
>> No idea why this would occur and it is a new thing. I have recently
>> updated
>> to the latest beta firmware for the enhanced KPA1500 integration. Perhaps
>> a
>> bug was introduced there?
>>
>> Ideas?
>>
>> Jim ab3cv
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