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No On/Off for COMP & EQ?

Barry Pfeil
As far as I can tell, there appears to be no ON/OFF function (button, menu, etc.) for the compression and equalization on the K3 other than returning the respective controls to zero settings.  Is that true?.
73, Barry, K6RM

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Re: No On/Off for COMP & EQ?

KK7P
> As far as I can tell, there appears to be no ON/OFF function (button,
> menu, etc.) for the compression and equalization on the K3 other than
> returning the respective controls to zero settings.  Is that true?.

Correct.

73,

Lyle KK7P
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Re: No On/Off for COMP & EQ?

Barry Pfeil
Thanks, Lyle. Well, in that case, could I respectfully ask if such functions could be added to the list of "wanted" improvements?  As a minimum I'd like to be able to program a button (e.g., "PF2") to toggle the EQ on and off. I can live with turning one knob to disable the COMP but the EQ is obviously much more difficult to disable or restore.  Anybody else out there agree?  Thanks,
Barry, K6RM

--- On Fri, 11/7/08, Lyle Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
From: Lyle Johnson <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] No On/Off for COMP & EQ?
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Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 9:00 PM

> As far as I can tell, there appears to be no ON/OFF function (button, 
> menu, etc.) for the compression and equalization on the K3 other than 
> returning the respective controls to zero settings.  Is that true?.

Correct.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: No On/Off for COMP & EQ?

E72X
I agree
Permanently disable in menu compressor and monitor for my opinion will be nice..

regards,
E72X,

Barry Pfeil wrote
Thanks, Lyle. Well, in that case, could I respectfully ask if such functions could be added to the list of "wanted" improvements?  As a minimum I'd like to be able to program a button (e.g., "PF2") to toggle the EQ on and off. I can live with turning one knob to disable the COMP but the EQ is obviously much more difficult to disable or restore.  Anybody else out there agree?  Thanks,
Barry, K6RM

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From: Lyle Johnson <kk7p@wavecable.com>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] No On/Off for COMP & EQ?
To: barrypfeil@sbcglobal.net
Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 9:00 PM

> As far as I can tell, there appears to be no ON/OFF function (button,
> menu, etc.) for the compression and equalization on the K3 other than
> returning the respective controls to zero settings.  Is that true?.

Correct.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: No On/Off for COMP & EQ?

K7TV
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Barry, I agree with you. In voice modes it would be very helpful to be able to switch receive and or transmit eq in and out with a button press.
Such a capability would also be a quick fix for my problem of inadvertent "equalization" in data modes.
Potentially, equalization save/restore is a complicated issue because one may want to store several different settings, maybe tied to modes.
So I can understand if Elecraft wants to explore related issues before giving us something that may have to be replaced later.
However, just maybe there is enough justification for in the long run implementing both a quick off/on pushbutton capability and saving/restoring multiple settings. If so, the one could be implemented independently from the other. The simple "on/off" would, as you suggest, be tied to front panel buttons. The saving and restoring of settings could live under the MAIN menu where the equalization settings already live. Since it takes time and effort to determine one's personal settings, I wouldn't mind having my library of eq settings defined in the Elecraft Utility as one or more settings per mode and downloaded to the radio. Each setting, regardless of mode, would be given a name and be usable with any mode. The Main Menu would show the current settings like now (modifiable from the radio like now), but also show the list of named settings, that could be made active, affecting only the mode in effect when the selection is made. After a computer-saved-and-named setting is made current in the radio/mode, it could again be modified in the radio, and possibly re-saved in the radio (and uploadable to the computer), but creation of a named setting (menu selection in the radio) could only be done on the computer. Just ideas...
 
73,
Erik K7TV
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] No On/Off for COMP & EQ?

Thanks, Lyle. Well, in that case, could I respectfully ask if such functions could be added to the list of "wanted" improvements?  As a minimum I'd like to be able to program a button (e.g., "PF2") to toggle the EQ on and off. I can live with turning one knob to disable the COMP but the EQ is obviously much more difficult to disable or restore.  Anybody else out there agree?  Thanks,
Barry, K6RM

--- On Fri, 11/7/08, Lyle Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
From: Lyle Johnson <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] No On/Off for COMP & EQ?
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Cc: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 9:00 PM

> As far as I can tell, there appears to be no ON/OFF function (button, 
> menu, etc.) for the compression and equalization on the K3 other than 
> returning the respective controls to zero settings.  Is that true?.

Correct.

73,

Lyle KK7P


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Re: No On/Off for COMP & EQ?

Bill N2BC
There has been much chatter about the K3 EQ lately.  I've written a small Windows application that helps to 'manage' the equalizers.  This is a work in progress, and I'm not much of a programmer.  You should take this to mean: Caveat Emptor!
 
The application is being used by about 20 people now and I'm chasing a couple bugs.
 
1) It does not behave well when access to the K3 is via N8LP's LP-Bridge.  This is NOT an LP-Bridge issue.  There is no direct way to read the EQ settings other than simulating button presses and reading the VFO B area.  The problem is that the EQ setting displayed on VFO B only appears momentarily and is then replaced with the 'label' for the EQ band.  Because LP-Bridge is polling the K3, my app will sometimes miss the data.
 
2) The app is written in MS Visual Basic 2008 and requires ,NET Framework 2.0 or later.   If your system does not have 2.0, it will be downloaded from Microsoft.  While this is not in and of itself a problem, I do have one user that is having difficulty that looks like a problem in the Framework - something that may well be beyond my capability to resolve.
 
You can peek at the application and download it here:  http://home.roadrunner.com/~n2bc/SW.htm
 
I'm looking for ideas for impovement - some are proposed on the subsequent web page.  I am in the process of improving the overall communications error handling, improving the documentation, and looking at other ways to store the EQ settings.  No timetable for these as yet.
 
If this little utility is a help, great!  I would prefer that any communications regarding the program not be on the Elecraft reflector, but rather direct to me.   [hidden email]
 
THX & 73,   Bill  N2BC
 
 
 
 

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Re: No On/Off for COMP & EQ?

Barry N1EU

Bill Coleman N2BC wrote
You can peek at the application and download it here:  http://home.roadrunner.com/~n2bc/SW.htm
FYI Bill, your page doesn't render well in IE7 because of its difficulty with the screen.png image file

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Re: No On/Off for COMP & EQ?

Jim AB3CV
looks good here in ie7.

jim ab3cv
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Re: No On/Off for COMP & EQ?

Barry N1EU
It will work for some IE7 users, but not all and probably won't work
at all in IE6.  Just Google ".png IE7"

Works fine in Firefox.

73,
Barry N1EU

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> looks good here in ie7.
>
> jim ab3cv
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Re: No On/Off for COMP & EQ?

K7TV
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Works fine here! (Vista 32 bit, IE7)
Definitely useful, but doesn't prevent me from forgetting to change eq when
I change modes.

Thanks,
Erik K7TV

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> looks good here in ie7.
>
> jim ab3cv


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Re: No On/Off for COMP & EQ?

N8LP
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Hi Bill. I haven't tried your program with LP-Bridge, but I guess I should in case I can improve cooperation of the two. FWIW, I am working on a number of added features between LP-Bridge and PowerSDR. It's not at the top of the list, but I plan to look at supporting the EQ interfaces of PowerSDR.

73,
Larry N8LP
 



Bill Coleman N2BC wrote
There has been much chatter about the K3 EQ lately.  I've written a small Windows application that helps to 'manage' the equalizers.  This is a work in progress, and I'm not much of a programmer.  You should take this to mean: Caveat Emptor!

The application is being used by about 20 people now and I'm chasing a couple bugs.

1) It does not behave well when access to the K3 is via N8LP's LP-Bridge.  This is NOT an LP-Bridge issue.  There is no direct way to read the EQ settings other than simulating button presses and reading the VFO B area.  The problem is that the EQ setting displayed on VFO B only appears momentarily and is then replaced with the 'label' for the EQ band.  Because LP-Bridge is polling the K3, my app will sometimes miss the data.

2) The app is written in MS Visual Basic 2008 and requires ,NET Framework 2.0 or later.   If your system does not have 2.0, it will be downloaded from Microsoft.  While this is not in and of itself a problem, I do have one user that is having difficulty that looks like a problem in the Framework - something that may well be beyond my capability to resolve.

You can peek at the application and download it here:  http://home.roadrunner.com/~n2bc/SW.htm

I'm looking for ideas for impovement - some are proposed on the subsequent web page.  I am in the process of improving the overall communications error handling, improving the documentation, and looking at other ways to store the EQ settings.  No timetable for these as yet.

If this little utility is a help, great!  I would prefer that any communications regarding the program not be on the Elecraft reflector, but rather direct to me.   n2bc@stny.rr.com

THX & 73,   Bill  N2BC




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