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Non-ionizing radiation permit

Howard Benham
That's a permit designed by a government Leach to suck money from the tax payer. :-) we have thousands of those here in the US.

 Howard Benham
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Re: Non-ionizing radiation permit

Jim Brown-10
On Sun,9/21/2014 12:54 PM, Howard Benham wrote:
> That's a permit designed by a government Leach to suck money from the tax payer.

No, it's a verification that the proposed antenna and transmitter will
pose a biological hazard to people nearby. If you've read the FCC Rules
in the last 20 years, you will know that we are required to have done
such a study to confirm that we comply with FCC Standards, but we are
not required to file it.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: Non-ionizing radiation permit

Jim Brown-10
Typo -- I meant to say "will NOT pose a biological hazard"

73, Jim K9YC

On Sun,9/21/2014 2:06 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

> On Sun,9/21/2014 12:54 PM, Howard Benham wrote:
>> That's a permit designed by a government Leach to suck money from the
>> tax payer.
>
> No, it's a verification that the proposed antenna and transmitter will
> pose a biological hazard to people nearby. If you've read the FCC
> Rules in the last 20 years, you will know that we are required to have
> done such a study to confirm that we comply with FCC Standards, but we
> are not required to file it.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: Non-ionizing radiation permit

k6dgw
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Actually, each of us is supposed to perform the analysis and file the
results in our "station records."  Those used to be log books.  Mine is
in one of my station notebooks now.  I used something on-line [ARRL?],
it was quick and simple and I just printed it and pasted it into my
notebook.  It was awhile ago, and I'm not sure which physical notebook
it's in, I may do it again if I can find the on-line calculator, just in
case the FCC visits. :-)

It's by no means onerous, and no one is "sucking money" from us, it's
free.  Excessive levels of electromagnetic radiation can and will cause
a variety of biological problems.  All we're doing is validating that
the levels from our stations are within standards.  Not everything the
government does is always bad.  If I can find the online resource I
used, I'll post a URL here for those who may be newer and haven't done
it yet.

And, Jim has already acknowledged the missing "not" between "will" and
"pose" in his reply.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
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On 9/21/2014 2:06 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

> On Sun,9/21/2014 12:54 PM, Howard Benham wrote:
>> That's a permit designed by a government Leach to suck money from the
>> tax payer.
>
> No, it's a verification that the proposed antenna and transmitter will
> pose a biological hazard to people nearby. If you've read the FCC Rules
> in the last 20 years, you will know that we are required to have done
> such a study to confirm that we comply with FCC Standards, but we are
> not required to file it.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC


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Re: Non-ionizing radiation permit

Josh Fiden
The original reference was a requirement in Israel, not USA. It may
indeed be onerous.

73,
Josh W6XU

On 9/21/2014 4:09 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
> It's by no means onerous, and no one is "sucking money" from us, it's
> free.

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Re: Non-ionizing radiation permit

Edward R Cole
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VK3UM offers a free program called "EMR Calc" that makes radiation
survey for FCC regs quite easy:
http://www.vk3um.com/emr%20calculator.html

Kind of fun to play with, also.

73, Ed - KL7UW

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On Sun,9/21/2014 12:54 PM, Howard Benham wrote:
 > That's a permit designed by a government Leach to suck money from
the tax payer.

No, it's a verification that the proposed antenna and transmitter will
pose a biological hazard to people nearby. If you've read the FCC Rules
in the last 20 years, you will know that we are required to have done
such a study to confirm that we comply with FCC Standards, but we are
not required to file it.

73, Jim K9YC


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