ON4UN has a K3?
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:45:37 -0700, Brett Howard wrote:
>The only reason I mention the labels is because it seems lately if you >ask someone to press two buttons to get something done or to actually >learn/remember something they look at you like you stole their favorite >blanket. I love the whole press for one option and hold for another to >get rid of having to press a F key and even more love the way that >Elecraft laid out the panel so that often a press activates/inactivates >a feature and a hold configures it. Can't get much simpler/cleaner than >that. > The panel layout works for me too. Anyone who has used it for awhile will realize they know where many of the functions are without needing to read the labels as to what is a tap and what is a push, etc. The only one I had trouble with was the WIDTH control. For some reason I kept expecting the filter b/w to become narrower as I turned it clockwise... 73, Drew AF2Z _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> The only one I had trouble with was the WIDTH
> control. For some reason I kept expecting the filter > b/w to become narrower as I turned it clockwise... This sort of design choice is always interesting -- to figure out what the greater number of users are going think is "intuitive". In your case, you are probably responding to an instinct derived from years of using radios where turning a control "up" is what you do to make the reception "better". So "better" = "clockwise". Not technically sensible when thinking in terms of bandwidth, but understandable. ;-) Bill W5WVO _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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From: <[hidden email]> > The panel layout works for me too. Anyone who has used it for awhile > will realize they know where many of the functions are without needing > to read the labels as to what is a tap and what is a push, etc. The > only one I had trouble with was the WIDTH control. For some reason I > kept expecting the filter b/w to become narrower as I turned it > clockwise... > > 73, > Drew > AF2Z I agree .... It seems strange that the WIDTH control turns to the left for narrower when the Filter display goes right .... I thought I was the only one that felt this way. There are a handful of things that seem strange that you have to get used to on this radio! 73 Hank K8DD _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I often hit the band button when I want to turn the rig off. Seems natural
that the power button would be on top. No biggie Steve Ellington [hidden email] ----- Original Message ----- From: "hank k8dd" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WIDTH control - Was: ON4UN has a K3? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[hidden email]> > >> The panel layout works for me too. Anyone who has used it for awhile >> will realize they know where many of the functions are without needing >> to read the labels as to what is a tap and what is a push, etc. The >> only one I had trouble with was the WIDTH control. For some reason I >> kept expecting the filter b/w to become narrower as I turned it >> clockwise... >> >> 73, >> Drew >> AF2Z > > I agree .... It seems strange that the WIDTH control turns to the left for > narrower when the Filter display goes right .... I thought I was the only > one that felt this way. > There are a handful of things that seem strange that you have to get used > to on this radio! > > 73 Hank K8DD > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.5.6/1574 - Release Date: 7/25/2008 4:27 PM > > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: WIDTH control - Was: ON4UN has a K3?
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> ... >> ... The only one I had trouble with was the WIDTH control. For some >> reason I >> kept expecting the filter b/w to become narrower as I turned it >> clockwise... >> > > I agree .... It seems strange that the WIDTH control turns to the left > for > narrower when the Filter display goes right .... I thought I was the only > one that felt this way. When the width control is turned clockwise the bandwidth display widens with the left side moving farther left and the right side farther right. And anticlockwise adjustment shrinks the bandwidth display from both sides. How could it be made any more intuitive than that? Gus Hansen KB0YH _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hank and Drew,
The only thing I can think of is that you must be associating the width control to a 'peaking' control where the peak becomes more narrow as the control is advanced (reminiscent of the old Q-multiplier controls). That is not a 'width' control in my mind. I feel the width control is exactly right as it is - turn left for less width, turn right for more width - that seems quite conventional to me. 73, Don W3FPR hank k8dd wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- From: <[hidden email]> > >> The panel layout works for me too. Anyone who has used it for awhile >> will realize they know where many of the functions are without needing >> to read the labels as to what is a tap and what is a push, etc. The >> only one I had trouble with was the WIDTH control. For some reason I >> kept expecting the filter b/w to become narrower as I turned it >> clockwise... >> >> 73, >> Drew >> AF2Z > > I agree .... It seems strange that the WIDTH control turns to the left > for > narrower when the Filter display goes right .... I thought I was the only > one that felt this way. > There are a handful of things that seem strange that you have to get > used to on this radio! > > 73 Hank K8DD > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:18:24 -0400, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>Hank and Drew, > >The only thing I can think of is that you must be associating the width >control to a 'peaking' control where the peak becomes more narrow as the >control is advanced (reminiscent of the old Q-multiplier controls). >That is not a 'width' control in my mind. I feel the width control is >exactly right as it is - turn left for less width, turn right for more >width - that seems quite conventional to me. > >73, >Don W3FPR > Seems logical to me too. As with most of the other controls: AF: left less, right more RF/SQL: left, less, right more Speed/Mic: left less, right more CMP/PWR: left less, right more DELAY: left less, right more MON: left less, right more VFO: left less, right more CLR: left less, right more PITCH: left less, right more If one installed the narrow filters from narrow to wide from FL1 to FL5 I suppose the XFL button would work as you described it, but you must have a wider filter in position 1, so actually when you select a filter you are not necessarily selecting a narrower filter, you are selecting the filter number. I think that may be one of the reasons for the filter width display. To indicate the filter width you have chosen, either by using the WIDTH control or the XFIL button. Really though, it doesn't take long to learn where they are. I have five installed and have no trouble recalling which is which. >hank k8dd wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- From: <[hidden email]> >> >>> The panel layout works for me too. Anyone who has used it for awhile >>> will realize they know where many of the functions are without needing >>> to read the labels as to what is a tap and what is a push, etc. The >>> only one I had trouble with was the WIDTH control. For some reason I >>> kept expecting the filter b/w to become narrower as I turned it >>> clockwise... >>> >>> 73, >>> Drew >>> AF2Z >> >> I agree .... It seems strange that the WIDTH control turns to the left >> for >> narrower when the Filter display goes right .... I thought I was the only >> one that felt this way. >> There are a handful of things that seem strange that you have to get >> used to on this radio! >> >> 73 Hank K8DD Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Re: WIDTH control - Was: ON4UN has a K3?
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Strange I never thought of it that way as to looking at the XFIL
section... I guess that comes from more time where you select which rock you want to use manually. My last rig was a TS450 where you just hit a button to cycle through them and they were laid out vertically on the screen. To me the knob seemed intuitive up for higher (wider) bandwidths and vice versa but I can see how if you keyed on the XFIL section on the screen you could get confused by that. I find that I pretty much never look there I just use the filter representation on the screen. If I want to know exactly where I'm at I just double tap the width knob. But I'm sure that you all got used to turning it the other way in a week or two so its all good now.. :) Every radio has its learning curve. ~Brett (KC7OTG) On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 09:33 -0400, hank k8dd wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[hidden email]> > > > The panel layout works for me too. Anyone who has used it for awhile > > will realize they know where many of the functions are without needing > > to read the labels as to what is a tap and what is a push, etc. The > > only one I had trouble with was the WIDTH control. For some reason I > > kept expecting the filter b/w to become narrower as I turned it > > clockwise... > > > > 73, > > Drew > > AF2Z > > I agree .... It seems strange that the WIDTH control turns to the left for > narrower when the Filter display goes right .... I thought I was the only > one that felt this way. > There are a handful of things that seem strange that you have to get used > to on this radio! > > 73 Hank K8DD > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: WIDTH control - Was: ON4UN has a K3?
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I must admit that this also is one that I felt was weird. To me it only
seemed natural to have the power button on the top. As when I first started looking at the panel it took me a second to find the button but not long. Now that I think about it it makes sense though. The POWER button is such a rarely used thing (during operation) that it makes sense not to give it the pole position seat. That puts band in a much easier to get to location. I see it as an improvement in ergonomics and one that personally I don't think I'd have come up with on my own. Convention in my mind was that band and mode would have been slid down and power in the top corner. I'll definately remember this when I go to design my next keypanel. ~Brett (KC7OTG) On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 09:38 -0400, n4lq wrote: > I often hit the band button when I want to turn the rig off. Seems natural > that the power button would be on top. No biggie > Steve Ellington > [hidden email] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "hank k8dd" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:33 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WIDTH control - Was: ON4UN has a K3? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[hidden email]> > > > >> The panel layout works for me too. Anyone who has used it for awhile > >> will realize they know where many of the functions are without needing > >> to read the labels as to what is a tap and what is a push, etc. The > >> only one I had trouble with was the WIDTH control. For some reason I > >> kept expecting the filter b/w to become narrower as I turned it > >> clockwise... > >> > >> 73, > >> Drew > >> AF2Z > > > > I agree .... It seems strange that the WIDTH control turns to the left for > > narrower when the Filter display goes right .... I thought I was the only > > one that felt this way. > > There are a handful of things that seem strange that you have to get used > > to on this radio! > > > > 73 Hank K8DD > > _______________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Post to: [hidden email] > > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > > 270.5.6/1574 - Release Date: 7/25/2008 4:27 PM > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Remember that they have to go in bandwidth order the way they go.. One
can't simply reverse that I believe at the current juncture. But I think they were simply mentioning that that was what they felt it should do. Seems that they've grown accustomed now... But maybe I'm all wet. ;) On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 10:38 -0500, Tom Childers, N5GE wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:18:24 -0400, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote: > > >Hank and Drew, > > > >The only thing I can think of is that you must be associating the width > >control to a 'peaking' control where the peak becomes more narrow as the > >control is advanced (reminiscent of the old Q-multiplier controls). > >That is not a 'width' control in my mind. I feel the width control is > >exactly right as it is - turn left for less width, turn right for more > >width - that seems quite conventional to me. > > > >73, > >Don W3FPR > > > > Seems logical to me too. > > As with most of the other controls: > > AF: left less, right more > RF/SQL: left, less, right more > Speed/Mic: left less, right more > CMP/PWR: left less, right more > DELAY: left less, right more > MON: left less, right more > VFO: left less, right more > CLR: left less, right more > PITCH: left less, right more > > If one installed the narrow filters from narrow to wide from FL1 to FL5 I > suppose the XFL button would work as you described it, but you must have a wider > filter in position 1, so actually when you select a filter you are not > necessarily selecting a narrower filter, you are selecting the filter number. I > think that may be one of the reasons for the filter width display. To indicate > the filter width you have chosen, either by using the WIDTH control or the XFIL > button. Really though, it doesn't take long to learn where they are. I have > five installed and have no trouble recalling which is which. > > > >hank k8dd wrote: > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: <[hidden email]> > >> > >>> The panel layout works for me too. Anyone who has used it for awhile > >>> will realize they know where many of the functions are without needing > >>> to read the labels as to what is a tap and what is a push, etc. The > >>> only one I had trouble with was the WIDTH control. For some reason I > >>> kept expecting the filter b/w to become narrower as I turned it > >>> clockwise... > >>> > >>> 73, > >>> Drew > >>> AF2Z > >> > >> I agree .... It seems strange that the WIDTH control turns to the left > >> for > >> narrower when the Filter display goes right .... I thought I was the only > >> one that felt this way. > >> There are a handful of things that seem strange that you have to get > >> used to on this radio! > >> > >> 73 Hank K8DD > [snip] > > Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq > > "Those who would give up > Essential Liberty to > purchase a little Temporary > Safety deserve neither > Liberty nor Safety" > > An excerpt from a letter > written in 1755 from the > Assembly to the Governor > of Pennsylvania. > > Support the entire Constitution, not > just the parts you like. > > http://www.n5ge.com > http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Don Wilhelm wrote:
> I wonder how ON4UN would want to set his? Maybe he is happy with the > BAND buttons. Don't know about ON4UN but K6DGW is happy with the up/down band buttons Hope to find everyone in the FOBB tomorrow, I will have a 3 el yagi courtesy of W6MMA of superantennas.com. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2008 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 08 - www.cqp.org _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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>The >only one I had trouble with was the WIDTH control. For some reason I >kept expecting the filter b/w to become narrower as I turned it >clockwise... Same here. That's the only knob that I consistently turn the wrong way. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I have been noting with great interest the comments about which way to
rotate the WIDTH control to narrow the filters. Logic may tell you that clockwise should be wider, but some other instinctive force greater than that always wants me to turn it clockwise to go narrow. Everyone up here who uses my K3 says the same thing. At first I thought this was maybe just a Canuck thing and I was too embarrassed to speak about it. Then I wondered if it was my advancing age, and I didn't want to talk about that either. Today, however, I am comforted to know that I/we are not alone. Now if Wayne would only reprogram the rig so that VOX would default to OFF on shut-down, I wouldn't have to concern myself about trying to remember to turn VOX off myself so that the rig does not actually transmit during the booting of the attached computer and again when the logging program starts on next turn-on of the rig. 73, Gary, VE1RGB, K3 #095 ----- Original Message ----- From: <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ON4UN has a K3? > > > >>The >>only one I had trouble with was the WIDTH control. For some reason I >>kept expecting the filter b/w to become narrower as I turned it >>clockwise... > > Same here. That's the only knob that I consistently turn the wrong way. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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At 10:30 AM 07/28/08, Gary Bartlett VE1RGB wrote:
> At first I thought this was maybe just a Canuck thing and I was > too embarrassed to speak about it. Then I wondered if it was my > advancing age, and I didn't want to talk about that either. Today, > however, I am comforted to know that I/we are not alone. I was not really paying attention to this thread until I watched a documentary of some "hillbilly" musicans in the Ozarks...and realized that some of them were holding stringed instruments the "wrong" way. Much like the debates over which end of an egg to crack, the pictures reminded me that there are numerous paths in front of us. One old man in the film, between target practice shots into a cuspidor, commented that some "fella from down in one of the cities" told him he was holding the guitar the wrong way, and that he told the outsider "If you think it's that bad, you ought not be a listen'n'" I wonder if folks south of the equator, where the toilet whirlpool is backwards to north of the line find the width control counter-intuitive. 73, Thom k3hrn No confusion here, privies don't flush _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Are you running the latest firmware? I found that in the 2.20 that I'm
running Wayne has added a bit of code that prevents the rig from TXing immediately upon power up. You get an ERR PTT upon power up. Then when you remove the PTT source you get an ERR KEY for a short bit then things go back to normal. On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 11:30 -0300, Gary Bartlett VE1RGB wrote: > I have been noting with great interest the comments about which way to > rotate the WIDTH control to narrow the filters. Logic may tell you that > clockwise should be wider, but some other instinctive force greater than > that always wants me to turn it clockwise to go narrow. Everyone up here > who uses my K3 says the same thing. > > At first I thought this was maybe just a Canuck thing and I was too > embarrassed to speak about it. Then I wondered if it was my advancing age, > and I didn't want to talk about that either. Today, however, I am comforted > to know that I/we are not alone. > > Now if Wayne would only reprogram the rig so that VOX would default to > OFF on shut-down, I wouldn't have to concern myself about trying to remember > to turn VOX off myself so that the rig does not actually transmit during the > booting of the attached computer and again when the logging program starts > on next turn-on of the rig. > > 73, > Gary, VE1RGB, K3 #095 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:56 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ON4UN has a K3? > > > > > > > > > >>The > >>only one I had trouble with was the WIDTH control. For some reason I > >>kept expecting the filter b/w to become narrower as I turned it > >>clockwise... > > > > Same here. That's the only knob that I consistently turn the wrong way. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Post to: [hidden email] > > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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>From: <[hidden email]> >>The >>only one I had trouble with was the WIDTH control. For some reason I >>kept expecting the filter b/w to become narrower as I turned it >>clockwise... >Same here. That's the only knob that I consistently turn the wrong way. Agreed. I think it has to do witht he fact that the Filter display moves to the right as it gets narrower and the WIDTH knob moves (turns) to the right as it gets narrower. That was the main problem that operators had on my K3 at Field Day. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ____________________________________________________________ FREE 3D EARTH SCREENSAVER - Watch the Earth right on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/earth _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Gary Bartlett VE1RGB wrote:
> I have been noting with great interest the comments about which way > to rotate the WIDTH control to narrow the filters. Logic may tell you > that clockwise should be wider, but some other instinctive force greater > than that always wants me to turn it clockwise to go narrow. Everyone > up here who uses my K3 says the same thing. I remember when radios had Selectivity controls, and you turned them to the right which increased selectivity (i.e., decreased bandwidth). The K3 has a control which is labeled Width and so it's reasonable to turn it to the right to increase (band)width. But the point I want to make is that if this is a change for you, you will get used to it. It is not something that will always be a problem. There is a finite amount of work that Wayne and Lyle can do in a finite time. I would much rather have them spend their time on issues that will always be problems (until they are fixed). For example, a number of people have complained that they want to adjust receiver controls while transmitting. This is something that will always be a problem for these people; it won't go away until it's fixed. And that's the kind of thing I'd prefer to see them work on. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Vic K2VCO" <[hidden email]> To: "Gary Bartlett VE1RGB" <[hidden email]> Cc: <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ON4UN has a K3? > (Snip) But the point I want to make is that if this is a change for you, > you will get used to it. It is not something that will always be a > problem. There is a finite amount of work that Wayne and Lyle can do in a > finite time. I would much rather have them spend their time on issues that > will always be problems (until they are fixed) (snip). Hi, Vic: Just to be clear, my observation was neither a complaint nor a request for a change. I've already grown used to the way the radio works in respect to adjusting filter width. I was more interested in speculating (out loud) as to why many of us are so instintively inclined to want to turn the control in a direction that, on this radio, is the wrong way. What in our individual backgrounds has conditioned some of our brains to want us to take a knob and turn it in the up/louder/bigger direction expecting a small/narrower result? Now back to watching the Simpsons. Gary, VE1RGB > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
OT: Coriolis effect and toilets (was: ON4UN has a K3?)
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In reply to this post by Thom LaCosta-2
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 10:45 -0400, Thom LaCosta wrote:
> I wonder if folks south of the equator, where the toilet whirlpool is > backwards to north of the line find the width control counter-intuitive. Contrary to common belief, the direction that a toilet (or a sink, or a bathtub, etc) drains is not dictated by the coriolis effect. For more info: http://www.snopes.com/science/coriolis.asp http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/BadCoriolis.html _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Gary Bartlett VE1RGB
Gary Bartlett VE1RGB wrote:
> I have been noting with great interest the comments about which way > to rotate the WIDTH control to narrow the filters. Logic may tell you > that clockwise should be wider, but some other instinctive force greater > than that always wants me to turn it clockwise to go narrow. Everyone > up here who uses my K3 says the same thing. > > At first I thought this was maybe just a Canuck thing and I was too > embarrassed to speak about it. Then I wondered if it was my advancing > age, and I didn't want to talk about that either. Today, however, I am > comforted to know that I/we are not alone. > > Now if Wayne would only reprogram the rig so that VOX would default > to OFF on shut-down, I wouldn't have to concern myself about trying to > remember to turn VOX off myself so that the rig does not actually > transmit during the booting of the attached computer and again when the > logging program starts on next turn-on of the rig. > > 73, > Gary, VE1RGB, K3 #095 [snip] I second the thought re the default VOX state upon turn on. I've fallen into this same trap (and then crawled under my desk upon realizing what might have gone over the air). If it wouldn't take too much re-coding, I think such a change would be worthwhile. -- 73, Dick ka1oz Middleborough, MA K3/100(Kit) SN 859 Titan-DX _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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