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OT: Bioennopower LiFePO4 teardown?

Detrick Merz
Has anyone disassembled a Bioennopower LiFePO4 pack yet? I recently asked
them if it was possible to charge via the power pole connector instead of
the normal charge port, and they said, "Yes, that's fine."

This left me curious: why the second port for charging? How are the cables
connected inside?

-detrick
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Re: OT: Bioennopower LiFePO4 teardown?

Clay Autery-2
What battery do you have?

Mine has + and - Batt terminals... that's it.

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On 7/21/2017 10:59 AM, Detrick Merz wrote:
> Has anyone disassembled a Bioennopower LiFePO4 pack yet? I recently asked
> them if it was possible to charge via the power pole connector instead of
> the normal charge port, and they said, "Yes, that's fine."
>
> This left me curious: why the second port for charging? How are the cables
> connected inside?
>
> -detrick
> KI4STU

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Re: OT: Bioennopower LiFePO4 teardown?

James Bennett
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There are two sets of cables so that the user has the option of using either Power Poles, or their 110-220 volt charger. I asked them about the cables and was told they are simply connected in parallel. You can use which ever is convenient for you.

Jim Bennett / W6JHB
Folsom, CA






> On Jul 21, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Detrick Merz <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Has anyone disassembled a Bioennopower LiFePO4 pack yet? I recently asked
> them if it was possible to charge via the power pole connector instead of
> the normal charge port, and they said, "Yes, that's fine."
>
> This left me curious: why the second port for charging? How are the cables
> connected inside?
>
> -detrick
> KI4STU
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Re: OT: Bioennopower LiFePO4 teardown?

k4vd
I don't know... are you sure the cables just connect in parallel? Maybe
simple enough to check with an ohmmeter but here's what I see on their site
for this battery:

Charge Connector: DC Plug
Discharge Connector:  Anderson Powerpole

This tells me each connector has a different purpose. In fact, considering
the electronics built into their batteries and the individual cells it kind
of makes sense to me that one cable is a gozinta and the other's a gozouta.
I've always charged with the barrel and discharged with the power poles.

73,
Kev K4VD


On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 12:23 PM, James Bennett <[hidden email]> wrote:

> There are two sets of cables so that the user has the option of using
> either Power Poles, or their 110-220 volt charger. I asked them about the
> cables and was told they are simply connected in parallel. You can use
> which ever is convenient for you.
>
> Jim Bennett / W6JHB
> Folsom, CA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 21, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Detrick Merz <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone disassembled a Bioennopower LiFePO4 pack yet? I recently asked
> > them if it was possible to charge via the power pole connector instead of
> > the normal charge port, and they said, "Yes, that's fine."
> >
> > This left me curious: why the second port for charging? How are the
> cables
> > connected inside?
> >
> > -detrick
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Re: OT: Bioennopower LiFePO4 teardown?

James Bennett
Yep, I am sure. Ive charged mine with both (not at the same time). And I exchanged email with them about it. They are one in the same.

> On Jul 21, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Kevin der Kinderen <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I don't know... are you sure the cables just connect in parallel? Maybe simple enough to check with an ohmmeter but here's what I see on their site for this battery:
>
> Charge Connector: DC Plug
> Discharge Connector:  Anderson Powerpole
>
> This tells me each connector has a different purpose. In fact, considering the electronics built into their batteries and the individual cells it kind of makes sense to me that one cable is a gozinta and the other's a gozouta. I've always charged with the barrel and discharged with the power poles.
>
> 73,
> Kev K4VD
>
>
>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 12:23 PM, James Bennett <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> There are two sets of cables so that the user has the option of using either Power Poles, or their 110-220 volt charger. I asked them about the cables and was told they are simply connected in parallel. You can use which ever is convenient for you.
>>
>> Jim Bennett / W6JHB
>> Folsom, CA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jul 21, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Detrick Merz <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Has anyone disassembled a Bioennopower LiFePO4 pack yet? I recently asked
>> > them if it was possible to charge via the power pole connector instead of
>> > the normal charge port, and they said, "Yes, that's fine."
>> >
>> > This left me curious: why the second port for charging? How are the cables
>> > connected inside?
>> >
>> > -detrick
>> > KI4STU
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Re: OT: Bioennopower LiFePO4 teardown?

ktalbott
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I agree Kev. My bienno has powerpole for load, coaxial for charge (12.6 vdc). I don't think the coaxial should/could be used for load.Ken ke4rg


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-------- Original message --------From: Kevin der Kinderen <[hidden email]> Date: 7/21/17  2:31 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: James Bennett <[hidden email]> Cc: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Bioennopower LiFePO4 teardown?
I don't know... are you sure the cables just connect in parallel? Maybe
simple enough to check with an ohmmeter but here's what I see on their site
for this battery:

Charge Connector: DC Plug
Discharge Connector:  Anderson Powerpole

This tells me each connector has a different purpose. In fact, considering
the electronics built into their batteries and the individual cells it kind
of makes sense to me that one cable is a gozinta and the other's a gozouta.
I've always charged with the barrel and discharged with the power poles.

73,
Kev K4VD


On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 12:23 PM, James Bennett <[hidden email]> wrote:

> There are two sets of cables so that the user has the option of using
> either Power Poles, or their 110-220 volt charger. I asked them about the
> cables and was told they are simply connected in parallel. You can use
> which ever is convenient for you.
>
> Jim Bennett / W6JHB
> Folsom, CA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 21, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Detrick Merz <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone disassembled a Bioennopower LiFePO4 pack yet? I recently asked
> > them if it was possible to charge via the power pole connector instead of
> > the normal charge port, and they said, "Yes, that's fine."
> >
> > This left me curious: why the second port for charging? How are the
> cables
> > connected inside?
> >
> > -detrick
> > KI4STU
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Re: OT: Bioennopower LiFePO4 teardown?

ktalbott
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TNX, nice to know!


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-------- Original message --------From: James Bennett <[hidden email]> Date: 7/21/17  12:23 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Detrick Merz <[hidden email]> Cc: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Bioennopower LiFePO4 teardown?
There are two sets of cables so that the user has the option of using either Power Poles, or their 110-220 volt charger. I asked them about the cables and was told they are simply connected in parallel. You can use which ever is convenient for you.

Jim Bennett / W6JHB
Folsom, CA






> On Jul 21, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Detrick Merz <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Has anyone disassembled a Bioennopower LiFePO4 pack yet? I recently asked
> them if it was possible to charge via the power pole connector instead of
> the normal charge port, and they said, "Yes, that's fine."
>
> This left me curious: why the second port for charging? How are the cables
> connected inside?
>
> -detrick
> KI4STU
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Re: OT: Bioennopower LiFePO4 teardown?

KD6QZX
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Det Rick call and talk to Eric he will give you all of the answers you may have questions of.   He is a stand up guy and local business man.    I have charged using either port, the need is about 14.2v for a good charge and low amps.   Their charger works great and has APP on it.    Scott AK6Q 

On Jul 21, 2017, at 09:01, Detrick Merz [via Elecraft] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Has anyone disassembled a Bioennopower LiFePO4 pack yet? I recently asked
them if it was possible to charge via the power pole connector instead of
the normal charge port, and they said, "Yes, that's fine."

This left me curious: why the second port for charging? How are the cables
connected inside?

-detrick
KI4STU
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