OT: Butane soldering irons
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I carry a butane-powered soldering iron in my Field Day Go-box. Just in case. This FD I had reason to use it. However, I couldn't ignite it. It would sputter and refuse to burn. We were at 7400' (2260 m). When we got back home it worked perfectly. So I guess that these butane torches aren't any good at high elevation? Looks like I'll have to invest in a battery-powered soldering iron for next year. Al W6LX ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: OT: Butane soldering irons
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Might it have to do with the ambient temperature?
Paul N6LL On 7/10/2014 7:24 PM, Al Lorona wrote: > WARNING: OFF-TOPIC > > > I carry a butane-powered soldering iron in my Field Day Go-box. Just in case. > > This FD I had reason to use it. However, I couldn't ignite it. It would sputter and refuse to burn. We were at 7400' (2260 m). > > When we got back home it worked perfectly. So I guess that these butane torches aren't any good at high elevation? > > Looks like I'll have to invest in a battery-powered soldering iron for next year. > > Al W6LX > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On 7/10/14 9:24 PM, Al Lorona wrote:
> > This FD I had reason to use it. However, I couldn't ignite it. It would sputter and refuse to burn. We were at 7400' (2260 m). > > When we got back home it worked perfectly. So I guess that these butane torches aren't any good at high elevation? > Not sure what make you have, but I have a cheap little Radio Shack model that I take from virtually sea level (600ft) to Breckenridge, CO (9600ft) every winter and use quite a bit while I'm there. I've never had any trouble with it, other than running out of butane. I bought a new tip for mine not long ago and it seems to have more trouble lightning than the original one. Other than that, though, it's been a workhorse for me at all elevations. -- Tim KG1GEM Flower Mound, TX (Denton County) EM13lb ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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This was exactly my experience on FD at a slightly higher altitude. I
had a Bernz-o-matic unit that worked fine at home before and after, so I attributed it to the altitude. On 7/10/14 8:45 PM, Tim Elwell wrote: > On 7/10/14 9:24 PM, Al Lorona wrote: >> This FD I had reason to use it. However, I couldn't ignite it. It >> would sputter and refuse to burn. We were at 7400' (2260 m). >> When we got back home it worked perfectly. So I guess that these >> butane torches aren't any good at high elevation? >> > Not sure what make you have, but I have a cheap little Radio Shack model > that I take from virtually sea level (600ft) to Breckenridge, CO > (9600ft) every winter and use quite a bit while I'm there. I've never > had any trouble with it, other than running out of butane. I bought a > new tip for mine not long ago and it seems to have more trouble > lightning than the original one. Other than that, though, it's been a > workhorse for me at all elevations. > -- Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: OT: Butane soldering irons
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Re: I couldn't ignite it. It would sputter and refuse to burn. We were at 7400' (2260 m).
That doesn't surprise me. I don't have experience with butane torches at altitude, but I have eaten far too many freeze dried dinners that were crunchy because, at altitude (8,500 ft. in my case), there wasn't enough oxygen in the air so that the flame from my friend's butane stove would heat the water hot enough to reconstitute the food. Cold temperatures affect butane stoves as well. Put high altitude together with cold temperatures and the result is crunchy noodles! (My old Svea white gas stove works well to 11,000 ft., even in the cold, but it has its own hazards). Mark, KE6BB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On most of those irons there is a control to adjust how much air gets into the mixture. On all that I have used you can change this to compinsate for altitude.
Sent from my iPhone this time > On Jul 10, 2014, at 9:45 PM, Tim Elwell <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> On 7/10/14 9:24 PM, Al Lorona wrote: >> This FD I had reason to use it. However, I couldn't ignite it. It would sputter and refuse to burn. We were at 7400' (2260 m). >> When we got back home it worked perfectly. So I guess that these butane torches aren't any good at high elevation? > Not sure what make you have, but I have a cheap little Radio Shack model that I take from virtually sea level (600ft) to Breckenridge, CO (9600ft) every winter and use quite a bit while I'm there. I've never had any trouble with it, other than running out of butane. I bought a new tip for mine not long ago and it seems to have more trouble lightning than the original one. Other than that, though, it's been a workhorse for me at all elevations. > > -- > Tim > > KG1GEM > Flower Mound, TX (Denton County) > EM13lb > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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That has nothing to do with flame from the stove. Water boils at a lower temp at altitude, so you have to cook things longer in boiling water. At 7400 ft ASL, the boiling point of water is 198.5 F.
Barry W2UP <quote author="Elecraft mailing list"> Re: I couldn't ignite it. It would sputter and refuse to burn. We were at 7400' (2260 m). That doesn't surprise me. I don't have experience with butane torches at altitude, but I have eaten far too many freeze dried dinners that were crunchy because, at altitude (8,500 ft. in my case), there wasn't enough oxygen in the air so that the flame from my friend's butane stove would heat the water hot enough to reconstitute the food. Cold temperatures affect butane stoves as well. Put high altitude together with cold temperatures and the result is crunchy noodles! (My old Svea white gas stove works well to 11,000 ft., even in the cold, but it has its own hazards). Mark, KE6BB |
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Most LP gas burners require some adjustment of the air at altitude. My
little Weber BBQ in the tent trailer was adjusted for 8,400', it doesn't burn well at home at 1,800' 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 7/10/2014 7:24 PM, Al Lorona wrote: > This FD I had reason to use it. However, I couldn't ignite it. It > would sputter and refuse to burn. We were at 7400' (2260 m). > > When we got back home it worked perfectly. So I guess that these > butane torches aren't any good at high elevation? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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