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N2TK

RE: K3, 15 Pin Acc Cables - Commercially Made

Guess I got lucky. Had an old VGA cable. Cut off the one end. Terminated it
in a female DB9 RS solder plug with a plastic hood and added a transistor
switch for FSK. There were no coax cables imbedded in the VGA cable. Several
single wires and a few twisted pair.

What I would like to do when I get time is terminate the VGA cable in a box
with terminal strips. Add jacks to the box to break out the signals on the
ACC jack. This way it would be easy to add cables to other external devices.

Maybe Elecraft or someone will come up with a plug in box to do this?

73,
N2TK, Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Charles Harpole
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:37 PM
To: Timothy Raymer; [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3, 15 Pin Acc Cables - Commercially Made

Another reason NOT to use the computer-use socket on a ham radio..... Tiny
wires, tiny pins, weak strain relief.... do I need

say any more..... Come on, designers: remember your customers have normal
sized hands and weak eyesight!!!

73

Charles Harpole

[hidden email]

> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:23:43 -0500
> From: [hidden email]
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3, 15 Pin Acc Cables - Commercially Made
>
> Don,
>
> One caveat to this: VGA cables are normally wired as a series of coaxial
cables. So while you may have pin continuity, that continuity may be on a
shield of RG-174/U coax buried in the jacket of a larger cable.
>
> I have found high density 15 pin connectors and soldered to them before.
It is not fun. But in that application, it was the only way to get the
correct connections, the correct wire type, and so on, connected to the
device.
>
> Tim Raymer
> 73 de KA0OUV
> K2 #1383
>
> >>> "Don Nesbitt" <[hidden email]> 04/10/2008 11:36 >>>
> I've found two (2) "ready made" cables that may be of interest to K3
owners
> when using the ACC Socket. The ACC socket is referred to on page 18 of my
> manual as "AUX I/O" with the caution that this is NOT a VGA video
connector!
> Well, it sure looks like a VGA connector but alas, no video output from
the
> K3 - shucks!
>
> For those who just don't want to fabricate a cable, most commercially
> available VGA cables do not include the #9 pin and for some that do, the
pin

> is not connected to anything. Poo!
>
> Fully connected commercial cables found!
>
> The first is a VGA Splitter Cable ("Y" cable) with one male and 2 female
> ends. It is offered by Cables Unlimited (www.cablesunlimited.com) and is
> their part number PCM-2250. Search this part number on their site. It is
> listed on their site for $14.99. All 15 pins are present and connected.
>
> This "Y" cable is carried by my local Microcenter (www.microcenter.com)

and
> is their part number 028126. I bought it for $9.95. You can see it at:
>
>
http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?keyword=028126&submit

> .x=17&submit.y=12
>
> The second cable is a "Fully-Wired & Straight Thru, HD15MM" cable with all
> 15 pins present and connected. The one I bought is a 3 foot Male to Male
> (although it is also available in other configurations) - no snickering!
>
> It is made by QVS (www.qvs.com) and is their part number CC388B-03. You
can
> search this part number on their site. I don't believe that QVS sells
> directly to consumers but you can probably find their products at most
> computer stores.
>
> Again, I found it at my local Microcenter. It is their part number
810150.
> I bought it for $14.99. You can see it at:
>
>
http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?keyword=810150&submit

> .x=15&submit.y=9
>
> I've checked each of these cables and they do indeed have all 15 pins
> connected - at least the one's I bought do (caveat filed just in case they
> change their manufacturing process)!
>
> I don't have any financial interest in any of the above and, as usual,
YMMV.

> '73 es gud dxing -- Don N4HH K3 #83
>
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Brett Howard

RE: K3, 15 Pin Acc Cables - Commercially Made

In reply to this post by Charly

I'm quite pleased with the use of the connector. It's a standard relatively
easy to find thing and gets the job done. There are some that won't be
happy no matter what you do.

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Charles Harpole
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:37 AM
To: Timothy Raymer; [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3, 15 Pin Acc Cables - Commercially Made

Another reason NOT to use the computer-use socket on a ham radio..... Tiny
wires, tiny pins, weak strain relief.... do I need

say any more..... Come on, designers: remember your customers have normal
sized hands and weak eyesight!!!

73

Charles Harpole

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> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:23:43 -0500
> From: [hidden email]
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3, 15 Pin Acc Cables - Commercially Made
>
> Don,
>
> One caveat to this: VGA cables are normally wired as a series of coaxial
cables. So while you may have pin continuity, that continuity may be on a
shield of RG-174/U coax buried in the jacket of a larger cable.
>
> I have found high density 15 pin connectors and soldered to them before.
It is not fun. But in that application, it was the only way to get the
correct connections, the correct wire type, and so on, connected to the
device.
>
> Tim Raymer
> 73 de KA0OUV
> K2 #1383
>
> >>> "Don Nesbitt" <[hidden email]> 04/10/2008 11:36 >>>
> I've found two (2) "ready made" cables that may be of interest to K3
owners
> when using the ACC Socket. The ACC socket is referred to on page 18 of my
> manual as "AUX I/O" with the caution that this is NOT a VGA video
connector!
> Well, it sure looks like a VGA connector but alas, no video output from
the
> K3 - shucks!
>
> For those who just don't want to fabricate a cable, most commercially
> available VGA cables do not include the #9 pin and for some that do, the
pin

David Woolley (E.L)

Re: OT - End of the line for XP

In reply to this post by DW Holtman

DW Holtman wrote:
>
> I have another off topic question about Windows XP. I have a legal copy
> on a generic computer that I bought sometime ago. It came with the CD
> and the sticker on the outside with the serial number. Can I load this

If it has stickers on the computer, the answer is probably no. The only
time that you can do this is when you have a full retail version of XP,
not an OEM one. If you buy pre-installed Windows it is almost certainly
an OEM licenced one, which is at least 50% cheaper than full retail. I
think full retail versions have the licence sticker on the media case,
although I've never seen one.

> copy on another computer and get it registered with Microsoft? I have
> heard horror stories about registering with Microsoft. I paid for and
> own this copy of XP, but can I move it?

You don't own the copy. You own the plastic and metal of the media and
a licence to use the software. If it is an OEM version, which it almost
certainly is, that licence will only allow its use on the original
system, although you may upgrade that system. You are not allowed to
remove the stickers from the case and move them.

Microsoft's business model depends on people continually updating, and
one way of achieving this is to make sure that the copy is obsoleted
when the computer is obsoleted.

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