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Well, we all knew it would happen sooner, or later.
Latest word is that Microsoft will stop shipping XP as of June 30. Personally, I do not like Vista.. The eye candy is nice, but there's not much else about it that is tugging at me to switch... I work in IT (K-12 Education). We have close to 2,000 computers and most are running XP Pro. Well, as several vendors have mentioned... don't worry, there will be service packs, patches and upgrades. I can think of an excellent one myself. It's called Linux ! ;-) Joe - W1AIU _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I work in a VERY big bank - we have over 80,000 desktops and we use XP
- at some point we will have to move on to Vista but it will be some years I recon -- It came to me that reform should begin at home, and since that day I have not had time to remake the world. -Will Durant, historian (1885-1981) On 9 Apr 2008, at 15:26, Joe Stofko wrote: > Well, we all knew it would happen sooner, or later. > > Latest word is that Microsoft will stop shipping XP as of June 30. > Personally, I do not like Vista.. > > The eye candy is nice, but there's not much else about it that is > tugging at > me to switch... I work in IT (K-12 Education). We have close to 2,000 > computers and most are running XP Pro. Well, as several vendors have > mentioned... don't worry, there will be service packs, patches and > upgrades. > I can think of an excellent one myself. It's called Linux ! ;-) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hang in there -- if you have to do MS stuff don't drop XP until we see
what Windows 7 looks like. Mark _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Direct from Microsoft (do a search there on Windows XP EOL). The EOL
date for OEM's (those shipping XP on computers) is January 31, 2009. It will probably be extended beyond that. XP will be around and supported for quite some time to come. On Apr 9, 2008, at 7:26 AM, Joe Stofko wrote: > Well, we all knew it would happen sooner, or later. > > Latest word is that Microsoft will stop shipping XP as of June 30. > Personally, I do not like Vista.. > > The eye candy is nice, but there's not much else about it that is > tugging at > me to switch... I work in IT (K-12 Education). We have close to 2,000 > computers and most are running XP Pro. Well, as several vendors have > mentioned... don't worry, there will be service packs, patches and > upgrades. > I can think of an excellent one myself. It's called Linux ! ;-) > > > > Joe - W1AIU > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com - Jack Brindle, W6FB ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------- _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hello,
I have another off topic question about Windows XP. I have a legal copy on a generic computer that I bought sometime ago. It came with the CD and the sticker on the outside with the serial number. Can I load this copy on another computer and get it registered with Microsoft? I have heard horror stories about registering with Microsoft. I paid for and own this copy of XP, but can I move it? Best, DW Holtman WB7SSN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:02 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of David Ferrington, M0XDF I work in a VERY big bank - we have over 80,000 desktops and we use XP - at some point we will have to move on to Vista but it will be some years I recon -- ---------------------------- It was just 8 years ago that Intel asked me to develop training modules on how to use Widows Xp some of their call center staff. There was a huge amount of angst over what problems Xp might cause. Drivers were near the top of the list of concerns. That was a long time ago in the lifespan of most technology. And Xp has a number of years of Microsoft support ahead of it on current systems, such as the one I'm using now. Even after that, it'll live on. I've got one machine still running Windows Me, and it runs quite nicely (for a machine with a 500 MHz Pentium III and a few hundred k of RAM <g>). I know others still running various versions of DOS! Fortunately new software does not immediately displace everything else, except in the minds of those hardy folks who choose to be "early adopters". Their experiences work out the bugs for the rest of us who merely want a reliable tool to use. I'm happy to be an early adopter of new communications technology. It's what interests me. I'll leave the software for those who enjoy doing that. Ron AC7AC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hello Jack,
Well, that figures... That's what I get for paying attention to this report: <http://www.eweek.com/showblog/47441/eWeek-Newsbreak-April-7-2008/> Which... may, or may not be, true! And, you are right. I do not expect to see XP disappear into the abyss for the foreseeable future! 73, Joe -----Original Message----- From: Jack Brindle [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 11:05 AM To: Joe Stofko Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP Direct from Microsoft (do a search there on Windows XP EOL). The EOL date for OEM's (those shipping XP on computers) is January 31, 2009. It will probably be extended beyond that. XP will be around and supported for quite some time to come. On Apr 9, 2008, at 7:26 AM, Joe Stofko wrote: > Well, we all knew it would happen sooner, or later. > > Latest word is that Microsoft will stop shipping XP as of June 30. > Personally, I do not like Vista.. > > The eye candy is nice, but there's not much else about it that is > tugging at > me to switch... I work in IT (K-12 Education). We have close to 2,000 > computers and most are running XP Pro. Well, as several vendors have > mentioned... don't worry, there will be service packs, patches and > upgrades. > I can think of an excellent one myself. It's called Linux ! ;-) > > > > Joe - W1AIU > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com - Jack Brindle, W6FB ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------- _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Unless the policy has changed, and I seriously doubt it, Microsoft allows you to install XP on three different CPUs. When and if you try to load it on a forth, the activation process will fail and tell you to call customer service. I had a motherboard fail and was already on #3. I called customer service and told them that the old machine was dead and the rep actually reset me to zero (!) so after loading a new machine I have two left. I was prepared for a battle but I was boviously quite surprised. Either Microsoft is trying to work with people who play by the rules (and don't steal software) or I was just lucky and got the right rep.
In any event, you have nothing but your time to lose by trying to load another machine and also to ask for help if you need it. Ron - W2RIP DW Holtman <[hidden email]> wrote: Hello, I have another off topic question about Windows XP. I have a legal copy on a generic computer that I bought sometime ago. It came with the CD and the sticker on the outside with the serial number. Can I load this copy on another computer and get it registered with Microsoft? I have heard horror stories about registering with Microsoft. I paid for and own this copy of XP, but can I move it? Best, DW Holtman WB7SSN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:02 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of David Ferrington, M0XDF I work in a VERY big bank - we have over 80,000 desktops and we use XP - at some point we will have to move on to Vista but it will be some years I recon -- ---------------------------- It was just 8 years ago that Intel asked me to develop training modules on how to use Widows Xp some of their call center staff. There was a huge amount of angst over what problems Xp might cause. Drivers were near the top of the list of concerns. That was a long time ago in the lifespan of most technology. And Xp has a number of years of Microsoft support ahead of it on current systems, such as the one I'm using now. Even after that, it'll live on. I've got one machine still running Windows Me, and it runs quite nicely (for a machine with a 500 MHz Pentium III and a few hundred k of RAM ). I know others still running various versions of DOS! Fortunately new software does not immediately displace everything else, except in the minds of those hardy folks who choose to be "early adopters". Their experiences work out the bugs for the rest of us who merely want a reliable tool to use. I'm happy to be an early adopter of new communications technology. It's what interests me. I'll leave the software for those who enjoy doing that. Ron AC7AC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I had the same experience following a mother board failure, so Microsoft
isn't all evil. Nelson, KU0A -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ron Foster Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:22 PM To: DW Holtman; Ron D'Eau Claire; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP Unless the policy has changed, and I seriously doubt it, Microsoft allows you to install XP on three different CPUs. When and if you try to load it on a forth, the activation process will fail and tell you to call customer service. I had a motherboard fail and was already on #3. I called customer service and told them that the old machine was dead and the rep actually reset me to zero (!) so after loading a new machine I have two left. I was prepared for a battle but I was boviously quite surprised. Either Microsoft is trying to work with people who play by the rules (and don't steal software) or I was just lucky and got the right rep. In any event, you have nothing but your time to lose by trying to load another machine and also to ask for help if you need it. Ron - W2RIP DW Holtman <[hidden email]> wrote: Hello, I have another off topic question about Windows XP. I have a legal copy on a generic computer that I bought sometime ago. It came with the CD and the sticker on the outside with the serial number. Can I load this copy on another computer and get it registered with Microsoft? I have heard horror stories about registering with Microsoft. I paid for and own this copy of XP, but can I move it? Best, DW Holtman WB7SSN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:02 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of David Ferrington, M0XDF I work in a VERY big bank - we have over 80,000 desktops and we use XP - at some point we will have to move on to Vista but it will be some years I recon -- ---------------------------- It was just 8 years ago that Intel asked me to develop training modules on how to use Widows Xp some of their call center staff. There was a huge amount of angst over what problems Xp might cause. Drivers were near the top of the list of concerns. That was a long time ago in the lifespan of most technology. And Xp has a number of years of Microsoft support ahead of it on current systems, such as the one I'm using now. Even after that, it'll live on. I've got one machine still running Windows Me, and it runs quite nicely (for a machine with a 500 MHz Pentium III and a few hundred k of RAM ). I know others still running various versions of DOS! Fortunately new software does not immediately displace everything else, except in the minds of those hardy folks who choose to be "early adopters". Their experiences work out the bugs for the rest of us who merely want a reliable tool to use. I'm happy to be an early adopter of new communications technology. It's what interests me. I'll leave the software for those who enjoy doing that. Ron AC7AC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1365 - Release Date: 4/8/2008 7:30 AM _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Depending on what the other machine is getting used for, it might be a
good time to check out Ubuntu. Dave Wilburn K4DGW K2/100 - S/N 5982 Nelson Moyer wrote: > I had the same experience following a mother board failure, so Microsoft > isn't all evil. > > Nelson, KU0A > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ron Foster > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:22 PM > To: DW Holtman; Ron D'Eau Claire; [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP > > Unless the policy has changed, and I seriously doubt it, Microsoft allows > you to install XP on three different CPUs. When and if you try to load it on > a forth, the activation process will fail and tell you to call customer > service. I had a motherboard fail and was already on #3. I called customer > service and told them that the old machine was dead and the rep actually > reset me to zero (!) so after loading a new machine I have two left. I was > prepared for a battle but I was boviously quite surprised. Either Microsoft > is trying to work with people who play by the rules (and don't steal > software) or I was just lucky and got the right rep. > In any event, you have nothing but your time to lose by trying to load > another machine and also to ask for help if you need it. > Ron - W2RIP > > > DW Holtman <[hidden email]> wrote: Hello, > > I have another off topic question about Windows XP. I have a legal copy on a > > generic computer that I bought sometime ago. It came with the CD and the > sticker on the outside with the serial number. Can I load this copy on > another computer and get it registered with Microsoft? I have heard horror > stories about registering with Microsoft. I paid for and own this copy of > XP, but can I move it? > > Best, > DW Holtman > WB7SSN > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:02 AM > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] OT - End of the line for XP > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of David Ferrington, > M0XDF > > I work in a VERY big bank - we have over 80,000 desktops and we use XP > - at some point we will have to move on to Vista but it will be some > years I recon Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I too heard XP is going to end soon. I got to use a Windows Vista
machine here at work the last few days. Vista is terrible. I hate the UI. It is slow to start, very slow to shut down. Every piece of the OS I bumbled into was worse than the corresponding piece in XP. Well, the Task Manager was better but that was it. Networking was worse. Control panel is worse. Start button is worse. When my Windows XP machine needs to be replaced, I'll probably switch to Mac if that's what it takes to avoid Vista. - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - - K3 TBD - _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Can´t you move this XP crap to some other list, after
all this list is called Elecraft. Tnx! /SM2EKM ---------------------- Darwin, Keith wrote: > I too heard XP is going to end soon. I got to use a Windows Vista > machine here at work the last few days. > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hash: SHA1 I also work for a VERY BIG bank here in Iowa. Between the Bank, Finance, and Mortgage sides of the house we have better than 100K computers, desktops and laptops. All running XP Pro. It will be YEARS before we give Wishta a serious sniff. They may not be rolling it our on consumer PC's after June 30th but they have way too many corporate customers to just dump it altogether. I will not let Vista onto any of my own machines. I think Vista is going to go down as one of the worst things MS ever did, right up there with Windows ME. They've moved up the roll out date for "Windows 7" a full year. How's that for confidence in your existing product? David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: | I work in a VERY big bank - we have over 80,000 desktops and we use XP - | at some point we will have to move on to Vista but it will be some years | I recon - -- R. Kevin Stover, ACØH -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH/gyd11jxjloa2wsRAsUTAJsH2kqtO3KlH4daJqrCrEerL4HNNQCg2ZNX t6frtslSD9w0Z/Kwv1zVlKg= =oUg6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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At 12:22 PM 4/9/2008, you wrote:
> Unless the policy has changed, and I seriously doubt it, > Microsoft allows you to install XP on three different CPUs. When > and if you try to load it on a forth, the activation process will > fail and tell you to call customer service. I had a motherboard > fail and was already on #3. I called customer service and told them > that the old machine was dead and the rep actually reset me to zero > (!) so after loading a new machine I have two left. I was prepared > for a battle but I was boviously quite surprised. Either Microsoft > is trying to work with people who play by the rules (and don't > steal software) or I was just lucky and got the right rep. > In any event, you have nothing but your time to lose by trying to > load another machine and also to ask for help if you need it. > Ron - W2RIP I think there is a bit of mis-understanding here, might be my OWN mis-understanding of what Ron is trying to say too. A CPU is a Central Processing Unit, the "Brain" of our computer. An operating system such as XP is never installed to this CPU, but is installed to a harddrive that is installed in the computer, which is what I suspect Ron probably meant to say. To my knowledge, Microsoft has never allowed one to have an operating system such as XP, LEGALLY installed on more than one computer at a time, without purchasing a multi system license. When Microsoft released XP, it was with the stipulation that a customer having XP installed on a computer, would be allowed to change up to three devices installed on that computer, such as harddrive, video card, memory, etc. Changing a fourth device would disable the operating system, requiring a call to Microsoft in order to re-enable the operating system, provided you could convince them that what you were doing was actually installing additional devices in the same computer, and NOT installing the operating system to a new computer. "73" Dub -- J. W. (Dub) Thornton K5DUB Minco, OK. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Such strong language!
I am an IT professional who has been using and supporting Vista since its introduction. I found it to be a little disconcerting at first merely because it's different than XP, but I find it to be neither worse nor better than the many XP boxes I use and support. I have learned that it's a bad idea to load Vista on a machine spec'd for XP. If you go with the Aero interface, it will be slow and aggravating to use. If you choose not to use the Aero interface, then there was little point in upgrading to Vista to begin with. If I were supporting a raft of existing PCs I would avoid Vista/Aero like the plague. However, if you are acquiring a new PC for yourself, or new PCs that you will be supporting professionally, there is absolutely no reason to skip Vista and go with XP unless you are buying a low-end PC with a single core processor and less than 2 gig of RAM. Even then, I would still get Vista and just not use the Aero interface. All but the very cheapest PCs anymore have multi-core processors, and RAM is inexpensive. Now, let's get back to ham radio and Elecraft...
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I've found two (2) "ready made" cables that may be of interest to K3 owners
when using the ACC Socket. The ACC socket is referred to on page 18 of my manual as "AUX I/O" with the caution that this is NOT a VGA video connector! Well, it sure looks like a VGA connector but alas, no video output from the K3 - shucks! For those who just don't want to fabricate a cable, most commercially available VGA cables do not include the #9 pin and for some that do, the pin is not connected to anything. Poo! Fully connected commercial cables found! The first is a VGA Splitter Cable ("Y" cable) with one male and 2 female ends. It is offered by Cables Unlimited (www.cablesunlimited.com) and is their part number PCM-2250. Search this part number on their site. It is listed on their site for $14.99. All 15 pins are present and connected. This "Y" cable is carried by my local Microcenter (www.microcenter.com) and is their part number 028126. I bought it for $9.95. You can see it at: http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?keyword=028126&submit .x=17&submit.y=12 The second cable is a "Fully-Wired & Straight Thru, HD15MM" cable with all 15 pins present and connected. The one I bought is a 3 foot Male to Male (although it is also available in other configurations) - no snickering! It is made by QVS (www.qvs.com) and is their part number CC388B-03. You can search this part number on their site. I don't believe that QVS sells directly to consumers but you can probably find their products at most computer stores. Again, I found it at my local Microcenter. It is their part number 810150. I bought it for $14.99. You can see it at: http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?keyword=810150&submit .x=15&submit.y=9 I've checked each of these cables and they do indeed have all 15 pins connected - at least the one's I bought do (caveat filed just in case they change their manufacturing process)! I don't have any financial interest in any of the above and, as usual, YMMV. '73 es gud dxing -- Don N4HH K3 #83 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Don,
For the benefit of Bay Area locals, I also found such a cable at my local Fry's Computer Store. It was necessary, because one of the band output signals is on pin 9, which is normally not present on the VGA cables. I cut the other connector off the cable and wired up a special one to fit my TopTen Yaesu band decoder (which works fine, BTW, with the K3). 73, andy, ae6y ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Nesbitt" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:36 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3, 15 Pin Acc Cables - Commercially Made > I've found two (2) "ready made" cables that may be of interest to K3 > owners > when using the ACC Socket. The ACC socket is referred to on page 18 of my > manual as "AUX I/O" with the caution that this is NOT a VGA video > connector! > Well, it sure looks like a VGA connector but alas, no video output from > the > K3 - shucks! > > For those who just don't want to fabricate a cable, most commercially > available VGA cables do not include the #9 pin and for some that do, the > pin > is not connected to anything. Poo! > > Fully connected commercial cables found! > > The first is a VGA Splitter Cable ("Y" cable) with one male and 2 female > ends. It is offered by Cables Unlimited (www.cablesunlimited.com) and is > their part number PCM-2250. Search this part number on their site. It is > listed on their site for $14.99. All 15 pins are present and connected. > > This "Y" cable is carried by my local Microcenter (www.microcenter.com) > and > is their part number 028126. I bought it for $9.95. You can see it at: > > http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?keyword=028126&submit > .x=17&submit.y=12 > > The second cable is a "Fully-Wired & Straight Thru, HD15MM" cable with all > 15 pins present and connected. The one I bought is a 3 foot Male to Male > (although it is also available in other configurations) - no snickering! > > It is made by QVS (www.qvs.com) and is their part number CC388B-03. You > can > search this part number on their site. I don't believe that QVS sells > directly to consumers but you can probably find their products at most > computer stores. > > Again, I found it at my local Microcenter. It is their part number > 810150. > I bought it for $14.99. You can see it at: > > http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?keyword=810150&submit > .x=15&submit.y=9 > > I've checked each of these cables and they do indeed have all 15 pins > connected - at least the one's I bought do (caveat filed just in case they > change their manufacturing process)! > > I don't have any financial interest in any of the above and, as usual, > YMMV. > '73 es gud dxing -- Don N4HH K3 #83 > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: K3, 15 Pin Acc Cables - Commercially Made
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Don,
One caveat to this: VGA cables are normally wired as a series of coaxial cables. So while you may have pin continuity, that continuity may be on a shield of RG-174/U coax buried in the jacket of a larger cable. I have found high density 15 pin connectors and soldered to them before. It is not fun. But in that application, it was the only way to get the correct connections, the correct wire type, and so on, connected to the device. Tim Raymer 73 de KA0OUV K2 #1383 >>> "Don Nesbitt" <[hidden email]> 04/10/2008 11:36 >>> I've found two (2) "ready made" cables that may be of interest to K3 owners when using the ACC Socket. The ACC socket is referred to on page 18 of my manual as "AUX I/O" with the caution that this is NOT a VGA video connector! Well, it sure looks like a VGA connector but alas, no video output from the K3 - shucks! For those who just don't want to fabricate a cable, most commercially available VGA cables do not include the #9 pin and for some that do, the pin is not connected to anything. Poo! Fully connected commercial cables found! The first is a VGA Splitter Cable ("Y" cable) with one male and 2 female ends. It is offered by Cables Unlimited (www.cablesunlimited.com) and is their part number PCM-2250. Search this part number on their site. It is listed on their site for $14.99. All 15 pins are present and connected. This "Y" cable is carried by my local Microcenter (www.microcenter.com) and is their part number 028126. I bought it for $9.95. You can see it at: http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?keyword=028126&submit .x=17&submit.y=12 The second cable is a "Fully-Wired & Straight Thru, HD15MM" cable with all 15 pins present and connected. The one I bought is a 3 foot Male to Male (although it is also available in other configurations) - no snickering! It is made by QVS (www.qvs.com) and is their part number CC388B-03. You can search this part number on their site. I don't believe that QVS sells directly to consumers but you can probably find their products at most computer stores. Again, I found it at my local Microcenter. It is their part number 810150. I bought it for $14.99. You can see it at: http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?keyword=810150&submit .x=15&submit.y=9 I've checked each of these cables and they do indeed have all 15 pins connected - at least the one's I bought do (caveat filed just in case they change their manufacturing process)! I don't have any financial interest in any of the above and, as usual, YMMV. '73 es gud dxing -- Don N4HH K3 #83 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: K3, 15 Pin Acc Cables - Commercially Made
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Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:23:43 -0500
From: "Timothy Raymer" <[hidden email]> I have found high density 15 pin connectors and soldered to them before. It is not fun. But in that application, it was the only way to get the correct connections, the correct wire type, and so on, connected to the device. What? They're dead easy. Try making connections to a 13 pin DIN connector. And if you really are having problems, then there are crimp and poke conectors readily available. Many of these can be soldered and then poked, too. 73, doug _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Another reason NOT to use the computer-use socket on a ham radio..... Tiny wires, tiny pins, weak strain relief.... do I need say any more..... Come on, designers: remember your customers have normal sized hands and weak eyesight!!! 73 Charles Harpole [hidden email] > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:23:43 -0500 > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3, 15 Pin Acc Cables - Commercially Made > > Don, > > One caveat to this: VGA cables are normally wired as a series of coaxial cables. So while you may have pin continuity, that continuity may be on a shield of RG-174/U coax buried in the jacket of a larger cable. > > I have found high density 15 pin connectors and soldered to them before. It is not fun. But in that application, it was the only way to get the correct connections, the correct wire type, and so on, connected to the device. > > Tim Raymer > 73 de KA0OUV > K2 #1383 > > >>> "Don Nesbitt" <[hidden email]> 04/10/2008 11:36 >>> > I've found two (2) "ready made" cables that may be of interest to K3 owners > when using the ACC Socket. The ACC socket is referred to on page 18 of my > manual as "AUX I/O" with the caution that this is NOT a VGA video connector! > Well, it sure looks like a VGA connector but alas, no video output from the > K3 - shucks! > > For those who just don't want to fabricate a cable, most commercially > available VGA cables do not include the #9 pin and for some that do, the pin > is not connected to anything. Poo! > > Fully connected commercial cables found! > > The first is a VGA Splitter Cable ("Y" cable) with one male and 2 female > ends. It is offered by Cables Unlimited (www.cablesunlimited.com) and is > their part number PCM-2250. Search this part number on their site. It is > listed on their site for $14.99. All 15 pins are present and connected. > > This "Y" cable is carried by my local Microcenter (www.microcenter.com) and > is their part number 028126. I bought it for $9.95. You can see it at: > > http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?keyword=028126&submit > .x=17&submit.y=12 > > The second cable is a "Fully-Wired & Straight Thru, HD15MM" cable with all > 15 pins present and connected. The one I bought is a 3 foot Male to Male > (although it is also available in other configurations) - no snickering! > > It is made by QVS (www.qvs.com) and is their part number CC388B-03. You can > search this part number on their site. I don't believe that QVS sells > directly to consumers but you can probably find their products at most > computer stores. > > Again, I found it at my local Microcenter. It is their part number 810150. > I bought it for $14.99. You can see it at: > > http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?keyword=810150&submit > .x=15&submit.y=9 > > I've checked each of these cables and they do indeed have all 15 pins > connected - at least the one's I bought do (caveat filed just in case they > change their manufacturing process)! > > I don't have any financial interest in any of the above and, as usual, YMMV. > '73 es gud dxing -- Don N4HH K3 #83 > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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