I never took a drafting class nor anything like it in high school, yet its
absence never hurt me professionally. Making a straight line is not a skill required of a lawyer. Ted, KN1CBR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
There’s a joke there somewhere!!
Hank K4HYJ > On Apr 25, 2021, at 9:28 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > > I never took a drafting class nor anything like it in high school, yet its > absence never hurt me professionally. Making a straight line is not a skill > required of a lawyer. > > Ted, KN1CBR > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Maybe had you known drafting, you wouldn't have had to resort to becoming a lawyer. HI HI
Lou W7HV On Sunday, April 25, 2021, 7:28:59 AM MDT, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: I never took a drafting class nor anything like it in high school, yet its absence never hurt me professionally. Making a straight line is not a skill required of a lawyer. Ted, KN1CBR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
I guess I missed out. Never had a formal course. No drafting in high school, and no drafting during undergraduate and graduate EE at Rice in the 60s. A straight edge and logic element templates in various sizes, were all the drafting skills needed. Board layout and a few other things were picked up as exercises for the the student.
Grant NQ5T Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 25, 2021, at 11:34 AM, Louandzip via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Maybe had you known drafting, you wouldn't have had to resort to becoming a lawyer. HI HI > > Lou W7HV > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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> I never took a drafting class nor anything like it in high school, yet its > absence never hurt me professionally. Making a straight line is not a skill > required of a lawyer. But writing legibly is, and that was a VERY important contribution of my technical drawing classes. My script has become pretty flaky with age, but my printing is still pretty legible. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I was too busy with AP classes to take drafting in high school. But I had to take it when I went off to the College of Engineering to be an Electrical Engineer. And I am glad I did take it. Of course, now it is all CAD systems… Regards -Hal WB6NNR > On Apr 25, 2021, at 9:13 AM, Hank via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote: > > There’s a joke there somewhere!! > > Hank > K4HYJ > >> On Apr 25, 2021, at 9:28 AM, [hidden email] wrote: >> >> I never took a drafting class nor anything like it in high school, yet its >> absence never hurt me professionally. Making a straight line is not a skill >> required of a lawyer. >> >> Ted, KN1CBR >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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You bet there is! from retired LE, Mike
> On 04/25/2021 8:13 AM Hank via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > There’s a joke there somewhere!! > > Hank > K4HYJ > > > On Apr 25, 2021, at 9:28 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > > > > I never took a drafting class nor anything like it in high school, yet its > > absence never hurt me professionally. Making a straight line is not a skill > > required of a lawyer. > > > > Ted, KN1CBR > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
We called it Mechanical Drawing.
I am not in engineering field, but it is handy sometimes. On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 16:21 MIKE ZANE <[hidden email]> wrote: > You bet there is! from retired LE, Mike > > On 04/25/2021 8:13 AM Hank via Elecraft <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > > > > > There’s a joke there somewhere!! > > > > Hank > > K4HYJ > > > > > On Apr 25, 2021, at 9:28 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > > > > > > I never took a drafting class nor anything like it in high school, > yet its > > > absence never hurt me professionally. Making a straight line is not a > skill > > > required of a lawyer. > > > > > > Ted, KN1CBR > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > Elecraft mailing list > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] -- 73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and GØPWW and thinking about operating CW: "Do today what others won't, so you can do tomorrow what others can't." ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Does that mean that you were allowed to "color outside the lines"? As an engineer, I always had to "stay between the lines" (my creativity had to be placed in other directions, not exceeding specs) but that is good advice for drivers too - as well as clean side up and dirty side down. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/25/2021 9:27 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > I never took a drafting class nor anything like it in high school, yet its > absence never hurt me professionally. Making a straight line is not a skill > required of a lawyer. > > Ted, KN1CBR > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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> But writing legibly is, and that was a VERY important contribution of my > technical drawing classes. My script has become pretty flaky with age, > but my printing is still pretty legible. > > 73, Jim K9YC My handwriting was always poor. Guess that's why they made me go into medicine. Barry W2UP -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Golly, Jim hit it ion the head. Same with me, script has gone south, but printing is still pretty good. We had to print all our reports way back when I was working. Now all the guys use computers in the car. Guess that's progress. Mike n6zw
> On 04/26/2021 4:54 AM Barry <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Jim Brown-10 wrote > > But writing legibly is, and that was a VERY important contribution of my > > technical drawing classes. My script has become pretty flaky with age, > > but my printing is still pretty legible. > > > > 73, Jim K9YC > > My handwriting was always poor. Guess that's why they made me go into > medicine. > > Barry W2UP > > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
I thought I could refrain from adding to the Hubris but here goes:
I took drafting in HS (early 60's) it was called drafting. Learned plan, projection, 3-D projection, etc. All done on paper and pencil with wood drafting board, T-Square and Triangles. Note the pencil was not mechanical and the hard part was to get consistent line width and weight. In the university as a freshmen in engineering a required course was engineering fundamentals where one semester was devoted to mechanical drafting and lettering, another to nomograph and other visual presentation methods. As a still practicing civil and structural engineer (50+ years) I still at times hand sketch and letter design calculations. For certain tasks it, for me, is the most expedient method to produce the work. I have gone thru the ink on mylar, plastic lead on mylar, pencil on paper, autocad, microstation methods of preparing engineering drawings for construction and fabrication. Do I miss the old methods, not really, what I miss is the character and lettering style of old hand drawings, some of which I consider art. P.S. my hand lettering skill is faster than my script skill and way, way more legible, Hi! Regards Henry S. Lonberg, Jr, P.E., S.E., P.L.S. -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of MIKE ZANE Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021 7:45 AM To: Barry <[hidden email]>; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, Golly, Jim hit it ion the head. Same with me, script has gone south, but printing is still pretty good. We had to print all our reports way back when I was working. Now all the guys use computers in the car. Guess that's progress. Mike n6zw > On 04/26/2021 4:54 AM Barry <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Jim Brown-10 wrote > > But writing legibly is, and that was a VERY important contribution > > of my technical drawing classes. My script has become pretty flaky > > with age, but my printing is still pretty legible. > > > > 73, Jim K9YC > > My handwriting was always poor. Guess that's why they made me go into > medicine. > > Barry W2UP > > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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My cursive died when I got to engineering school, and now even my printing
is not improving, to some extent to writing mostly with keyboard. No drafting in High School, but my first Freshman course in the EE program was pretty awesome. Professor Kliphardt taught us mechanical drawing, where we learned to make 3-d drawings of various objects, solving problems like a pipe coming through a wall and determining if it intersected a desk or the person sitting there. You would solve this by rotating the drawing, using projection to spot the path. He would do all these drawings with a chalk and a piece of string. Was amazing to watch. Was a very fun course. (The next quarter was intro to computer programming, and that derailed me for the next several decades) w8lvn On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 2:59 PM Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote: > On 4/25/2021 6:27 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > > I never took a drafting class nor anything like it in high school, yet > its > > absence never hurt me professionally. Making a straight line is not a > skill > > required of a lawyer. > > But writing legibly is, and that was a VERY important contribution of my > technical drawing classes. My script has become pretty flaky with age, > but my printing is still pretty legible. > > 73, Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > -- --w8lvn-- ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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