OT: Left-handed paddles
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If you find yourself confronted with a paddle that's counter to your
"handed ness", simply turn it around 180 degrees and reach over the top to send. 73 - Ken - K0PP ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On Mon,12/1/2014 12:48 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:
> If you find yourself confronted with a paddle that's counter to your > "handed ness", simply turn it around 180 degrees and reach over the top to > send. The "handedness of a paddle is nothing more than wiring. Also, many (most?) keyers (including K3 and KX3) have a menu setting to reverse whatever you have. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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> If you find yourself confronted with a paddle that's counter to your > "handed ness", simply turn it around 180 degrees and reach over the top to > send. Absolutely. I've done this for years if I find myself in the midst of doing something else with the sending hand. You may have to slow down slightly, but it is intuitive, despite how it sounds. Gary ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Curiously, you may find that you can send with the "wrong" hand by reversing
the dot/dash, or as suggested, by backing up to the keyer and reaching behind yourself. In the "olden" days when we logged with a pencil, the CW hot-shots would do just that. They'd log with their right hand and send with their left. I was surprised to find that I could do it too. 73, Charlie k3ICH ----- Original Message ----- From: <[hidden email]> To: "elecraft" <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Left-handed paddles > >> If you find yourself confronted with a paddle that's counter to your >> "handed ness", simply turn it around 180 degrees and reach over the top >> to >> send. > > Absolutely. I've done this for years if I find myself in the midst of > doing > something else with the sending hand. You may have to slow down slightly, > but > it is intuitive, despite how it sounds. > > Gary > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi All,
I'm a lefty too, and I just acquiesced to the right handed setup on paddles (and bugs) from the outset. As has been pointed out, it really makes it easier if you go to another ham's station--usually a right handed person. I really don't think it makes much difference which way you do it on a paddle. One way is no more efficient than the other. Possibly it might be slightly less efficient on a bug, but I do that using a right handed setup as well, and it never seemed to be a big problem. Besides, finding left handed bugs wasn't easy. As Don points out, most newer rigs, and most newer keyers, have an option to switch sides, so it has become less complicated if you need to switch. If you run into a situation where either the rig or keyer doesn't have that option, you can just turn the paddle around--awkward, but it works! One of these days I'm going to try and learn to send right handed--I've been saying that for years! The incentive, though, is to free up my left hand for writing. Being a "bean counter" by profession, I found that process to be very helpful when operating a calculator. I could "tick and tie" (accounting jargon) with the best of them! Anyway, it might be beneficial on Field Day, etc. Hi. Dave W7AQK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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As a rightie, I taught myself to send left handed for the very same reason - contesting. Send with the left, write with the right. I saw an Op at my first FD doing this and I told myself I needed to do the same. At first it was with the key turned around but later I added a small switch to the Heath HD-10 single lever keyer. This was the late 60's. I still send mostly with the left hand, especially in contests, because the keyboards are set up for righties. Therefore, I tune/operate my K3 with the left hand as well. Been that way since the beginning for me. I actually have two paddles set up, one on each side so I can send from whichever hand is free. Probably explains why I never could play the piano with my left hand - needed a "reversed" keyboard.
tnx Mike W5JR > On Dec 2, 2014, at 1:17 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hi All, > > I'm a lefty too, and I just acquiesced to the right handed setup on paddles (and bugs) from the outset. As has been pointed out, it really makes it easier if you go to another ham's station--usually a right handed person. I really don't think it makes much difference which way you do it on a paddle. One way is no more efficient than the other. Possibly it might be slightly less efficient on a bug, but I do that using a right handed setup as well, and it never seemed to be a big problem. Besides, finding left handed bugs wasn't easy. As Don points out, most newer rigs, and most newer keyers, have an option to switch sides, so it has become less complicated if you need to switch. If you run into a situation where either the rig or keyer doesn't have that option, you can just turn the paddle around--awkward, but it works! > > One of these days I'm going to try and learn to send right handed--I've been saying that for years! The incentive, though, is to free up my left hand for writing. Being a "bean counter" by profession, I found that process to be very helpful when operating a calculator. I could "tick and tie" (accounting jargon) with the best of them! Anyway, it might be beneficial on Field Day, etc. Hi. > > Dave W7AQK > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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This discussion has brought to mind a question - maybe two. I'm relearning CW, and have the iambic made for the KX3. (When I first learned CW for my Novice 30 years ago, it was with a straight key. I ended up not touching Ham when I went into the Navy, and just recently got back into it.)
So, as a rightie, should I start off sending with my left? If I do, should I reverse it? Would that make it easier to swap to my right? Or, just start sending with my right? (Well, four questions.) For copying, I do it the old-fashioned way - pen and paper, and shorthand scribble-characters. I don't want to be tied to having to use a keyboard or other device. Yeah it's slower, so what. Jeff - kg7hdz ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Well Jeff,
Nearly all of this left-right thread has involved us "more mature" hams discussing early paddle experiences, often as teens or early 20-somethings. Learning and adapting ability, particularly physically, does tend to decline some as we accumulate birthdays. Things have also changed dramatically. We are no longer required to write in log books as we operate. Transceivers, with a Big Knob, have replaced transmitters and receivers with a multitude of knobs. My K3 and WinKey have CW memories, just tap the button. As a result, many of my reasons for learning to send right-handed have disappeared. It looks like you're in the "more mature" class with the rest of us. I'd recommend doing what feels natural for you and what makes operating enjoyable. I doubt, today in 2014, you'll gain much advantage forcing yourself to send left if you're right-handed. It doesn't matter how your paddle is set up unless you find yourself operating at other stations or in teams [e.g. FD] which will be predominantly right-ish. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 - www.cqp.org On 12/2/2014 7:35 AM, Thorpe, Jeffrey wrote: > So, as a rightie, should I start off > sending with my left? If I do, should I reverse it? Would that make > it easier to swap to my right? Or, just start sending with my right? > (Well, four questions.) For copying, I do it the old-fashioned way - > pen and paper, and shorthand scribble-characters. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Nicely phrased, Fred. The next time someone
accuses me of a senile act I'll tell them "No, that's just my greater maturity coming through" :-) 73, Phil W7OX On 12/2/14 9:48 AM, Fred Jensen wrote: > Well Jeff, > > Nearly all of this left-right thread has > involved us "more mature" hams discussing early > paddle experiences, often as teens or early > 20-somethings. Learning and adapting ability, > particularly physically, does tend to decline > some as we accumulate birthdays. > > Things have also changed dramatically. We are > no longer required to write in log books as we > operate. Transceivers, with a Big Knob, have > replaced transmitters and receivers with a > multitude of knobs. My K3 and WinKey have CW > memories, just tap the button. As a result, many > of my reasons for learning to send right-handed > have disappeared. > > It looks like you're in the "more mature" class > with the rest of us. I'd recommend doing what > feels natural for you and what makes operating > enjoyable. I doubt, today in 2014, you'll gain > much advantage forcing yourself to send left if > you're right-handed. It doesn't matter how your > paddle is set up unless you find yourself > operating at other stations or in teams [e.g. > FD] which will be predominantly right-ish. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party > 3-4 Oct 2015 > - www.cqp.org > > On 12/2/2014 7:35 AM, Thorpe, Jeffrey wrote: > >> So, as a rightie, should I start off >> sending with my left? If I do, should I reverse >> it? Would that make >> it easier to swap to my right? Or, just start >> sending with my right? >> (Well, four questions.) For copying, I do it >> the old-fashioned way - >> pen and paper, and shorthand scribble-characters. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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There is one thing no one has mentioned - I work a guy fairly often who can
send with either hand - he tells me he taught himself to do that so if he had a stroke that affected one side he was still in business. Hank K7HP ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Thanks for answers guys. Looks like it's nothing to worry about.
Jeff - kg7hdz ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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