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OT National Hearing Test

NPRs Ina Jaffe on the National Hearing Test: http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/12/21/459397027/is-everybody-mumbling-try-a-hearing-test-you-take-on-the-phone
This test not unlike most of our “pick the signal out of the noise” experiences.

David A., KC0XT, Los Angeles

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Bob K6UJ

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David,

Are you by any chance in the hearing aid business or affiliated. ?

Take your advertising somewhere else

Bob
K6UJ

On 12/21/15 6:11 PM, David Ahrendts wrote:

> NPRs Ina Jaffe on the National Hearing Test: http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/12/21/459397027/is-everybody-mumbling-try-a-hearing-test-you-take-on-the-phone
> This test not unlike most of our “pick the signal out of the noise” experiences.
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David Ahrendts

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Nope. I’m in the evil, ugly TV news business. I plead guilty to promoting things I find interesting and this was one — it is a hearing test based on ambient audio interference and sequences of three numbers progressively buried in the noise. Not unlike what we do everyday in amateur radio. Based own your answers, you get an average result. Mine: a little hearing loss on both ears. Slightly concerning because the XYL (or Gawd I used that term — surely lighting will strike!!) says I do not hear her all the time. Then again, I used an iPhone. I will try again with a dedicated land line. It is genuinely an interesting listening experiment.

David A., KC0XT, Los Angeles

> On Dec 21, 2015, at 6:20 PM, Robert Harmon <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> David,
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> Are you by any chance in the hearing aid business or affiliated. ?
>
> Take your advertising somewhere else
>
> Bob
> K6UJ
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> On 12/21/15 6:11 PM, David Ahrendts wrote:
>> NPRs Ina Jaffe on the National Hearing Test: http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/12/21/459397027/is-everybody-mumbling-try-a-hearing-test-you-take-on-the-phone
>> This test not unlike most of our “pick the signal out of the noise” experiences.
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>> David A., KC0XT, Los Angeles
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Re: OT National Hearing Test

This actually is quite interesting and relevant. It's worth
understanding how well you hear a given signal in typical conditions:
white noise with a mix of other interesting audio phenomena. Whether
consciously or unconsciously there is always the question of your own
hearing abilities versus the receiver. Knowing your own performance
envelope can help you gain insight into how best to adjust your receiver
to accommodate your own needs. I also think list moderation is Eric's
job. Thus, your comment seems to be a tad bit out of line.

David - thanks for bringing this at least to my attention. I found it
useful and interesting.

73, Doug -- K0DXV

On 12/21/2015 8:21 PM, David Ahrendts wrote:

> Nope. I’m in the evil, ugly TV news business. I plead guilty to promoting things I find interesting and this was one — it is a hearing test based on ambient audio interference and sequences of three numbers progressively buried in the noise. Not unlike what we do everyday in amateur radio. Based own your answers, you get an average result. Mine: a little hearing loss on both ears. Slightly concerning because the XYL (or Gawd I used that term — surely lighting will strike!!) says I do not hear her all the time. Then again, I used an iPhone. I will try again with a dedicated land line. It is genuinely an interesting listening experiment.
>
> David A., KC0XT, Los Angeles
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>> On Dec 21, 2015, at 6:20 PM, Robert Harmon <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> David,
>>
>> Are you by any chance in the hearing aid business or affiliated. ?
>>
>> Take your advertising somewhere else
>>
>> Bob
>> K6UJ
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>> On 12/21/15 6:11 PM, David Ahrendts wrote:
>>> NPRs Ina Jaffe on the National Hearing Test: http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/12/21/459397027/is-everybody-mumbling-try-a-hearing-test-you-take-on-the-phone
>>> This test not unlike most of our “pick the signal out of the noise” experiences.
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>>> David A., KC0XT, Los Angeles
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Jim Brown-10

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On Mon,12/21/2015 6:20 PM, Robert Harmon wrote:
> Take your advertising somewhere else

That's uncalled for.

My wife and I heard the same piece on NPR and as a retired audio
professional, I consider it well worth doing.

Yes, the way in which hearing aids are sold by audiologists is a dirty
business with outrageous markups protected by limited distribution
agreements, but hearing aids are a very good thing. W6OAT showed me a
set that he's quite happy with. It came from Costco, and compared to
what I've heard, seems to be a real bargain.

73, Jim K9YC
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k6dgw

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I have profound traumatic hearing loss from 50 years ago, I have a copy
of my latest audiogram and, with Jim's advice, I have tried to replicate
its inverse in my K3 RX EQ. Jim showed me how to get around 30 dB EQ
range, I just have to run the AF Gain higher, and it works.

My hearing aids are fantastic, they came from the VA and I am truly
grateful to the US taxpayers, they, and several of their predecessors
have changed my life for the better. They run at afterburner roar, or
so my wife says. They even talk to each other ... if one decides it's
time to switch "programs," the other follows immediately.

I did the test, failed miserably, which wasn't a surprise. :-) Every
time they stuff me into the little silent booth, part of the test
includes speech in noises.

I'm a basic failure on SSB in a contest but my K3 has been the best
receiver I've ever had on phone. For those who might be facing gradual
hearing loss, a test like this can make a big difference for you.

On 12/21/2015 7:51 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

> On Mon,12/21/2015 6:20 PM, Robert Harmon wrote:
>> Take your advertising somewhere else
>
> That's uncalled for.
>
> My wife and I heard the same piece on NPR and as a retired audio
> professional, I consider it well worth doing.
>
> Yes, the way in which hearing aids are sold by audiologists is a dirty
> business with outrageous markups protected by limited distribution
> agreements, but hearing aids are a very good thing. W6OAT showed me a
> set that he's quite happy with. It came from Costco, and compared to
> what I've heard, seems to be a real bargain.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC

David Glasser

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Well I must say I find the references and the test most enlightening and interesting.
Thanks for sharing
David Glasser

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David,

Are you by any chance in the hearing aid business or affiliated. ?

Take your advertising somewhere else

Bob
K6UJ

On 12/21/15 6:11 PM, David Ahrendts wrote:

> NPRs Ina Jaffe on the National Hearing Test: http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/12/21/459397027/is-everybody-mumbling-try-a-hearing-test-you-take-on-the-phone
> This test not unlike most of our “pick the signal out of the noise” experiences.
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Phil Kane-2

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On 12/21/2015 7:57 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:

> Yes, this is a legitimate research project and service. Yes, it costs
> $5. I’m putting aside some time to do it myself. I have have some
> pretty nasty tinnitus (ringing in the ears) for the past couple of
> decades. If you don’t have it, count yourself lucky.

You are so right about that. My wife and I both have tinnitus - hers is
much worse than mine. I try not to let it interfere with my radio and
music performance activities, and yes, I do use hearing aids - my loss
is hereditary. I regard the devices as an investment rather than an
expense.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402

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Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ

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Administrator

Since this is more or less OT from our primary areas of discussion and has had a
lot of postings, lets end the thread at this time.

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Eric
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