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wayne burdick

OT: QSL cards

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Hi All,

I'm in the market for new QSL cards. My first choice of vendor never
returns e-mails, so I'm looking for another one. Anyone have a
recommendation for a QSL printer that can handle custom artwork in
Illustrator format?

I haven't had new cards printed since 1977, which was about the time I
turned my attention to designing little radios.

I think I owe a few of you cards, too :)

Thanks,
Wayne
N6KR

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James1787

Re: OT: QSL cards

Wayne,

I've had good luck with cheapqsls.com, I was able to send them an image
and they were able to process it. My card is a full color QSL. You
might want to see what they can do for you. They were pretty friendly
to deal with!

73,

James KB2FCV

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From: wayne burdick <[hidden email]>
To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
Sent: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 13:10:54 -0700
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: QSL cards

Hi All,

I'm in the market for new QSL cards. My first choice of vendor never
returns e-mails, so I'm looking for another one. Anyone have a
recommendation for a QSL printer that can handle custom artwork in
Illustrator format?

I haven't had new cards printed since 1977, which was about the time I
turned my attention to designing little radios.

I think I owe a few of you cards, too :)

Thanks,
Wayne
N6KR

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Randy Rathbun NV0U

Re: OT: QSL cards

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My preference is to head to the local office supply store and buy 4x6
blank index cards. They usually have sales on the things. Last time I
bought them they were a pack of 500 for $4.

I do all my stuff in InDesign and print them as I need them. Plus, I
can change the look of them whenever I want - which seems to be quite
often because I keep forgetting to put some bit of information on
them when I do them the first time.

The cards do survive the mail with no problems so far at the postcard
rate. I figure with the ink I use, I am running about 5 cents a card
or so for a two sided card (picture on the front, QSO details on the
back) and about 3 cents a card for the single sided (mostly white -
all text).

>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm in the market for new QSL cards. My first choice of vendor
> never returns e-mails, so I'm looking for another one. Anyone have
> a recommendation for a QSL printer that can handle custom artwork
> in Illustrator format?
>
> I haven't had new cards printed since 1977, which was about the
> time I turned my attention to designing little radios.
>
> I think I owe a few of you cards, too :)
>
> Thanks,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> ---
>
> http://www.elecraft.com

Randy Rathbun NV0U
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KK7P

Re: OT: QSL cards

> My preference is to head to the local office supply store and buy 4x6
> blank index cards. They usually have sales on the things. Last time I
> bought them they were a pack of 500 for $4.

Also look at <http://www.hamstuff.com/QslKitPage/qslkit.html>

73,

Lyle KK7P

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JT Croteau-2

Re: OT: QSL cards

I prefer doing my own QSL cards but WZ8P did the awesome cards for
3Y0X, if I ever needed some professional cards I'd email him first.

http://www.qsl.net/wz8p/

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Mark J. Schreiner

Re: OT: QSL cards

In reply to this post by Randy Rathbun NV0U

That sounds like a nice way to do it. I do a similar method. I buy 110
pound 8-1/2 x 11" white card stock (Hammermill Item#18634-0) from
Staples, 250 sheets with room to print 4 cars per sheet. I slice these
down to slightly larger than 3-1/2 x 5" using a slicer/dicer (watch your
fingers!). I print the report form on Avery self adhesive shipping
labels that are 3-1/2 x 5" (Avery product number 5168) which come on
8-1/2 x 11" sheets. Carefully applying the label to the back of the
card and I'm good to go. This helps build up the weight of the card to
be just about right as the 110 pound card stock is just a little bit
light weight.

I do all the layout in MS-Word. I can quickly change the front design
depending on if I'm mobile, portable, operating a specific event, or
whatever. The report form pretty much stays the same and I don't have
to work very hard to get the layout just right for the double sided
printing.

If anyone is interested in my layouts I'd be happy to email them the
MS-Word documents I've created and you can easily change them for
yourself. Sorry, you'll have to supply your own copy of MS-Word and the
different clip art.

Standard disclaimers apply, that is I have no personal interest in
Microsoft, Avery, Hammermill or Staples, just using them as details on
what I do here so you can duplicate or modify accordingly.

73,

Mark, NK8Q

Randy Rathbun NV0U wrote:

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> My preference is to head to the local office supply store and buy 4x6
> blank index cards. They usually have sales on the things. Last time I
> bought them they were a pack of 500 for $4.
>
> I do all my stuff in InDesign and print them as I need them. Plus, I
> can change the look of them whenever I want - which seems to be quite
> often because I keep forgetting to put some bit of information on them
> when I do them the first time.
>
> The cards do survive the mail with no problems so far at the postcard
> rate. I figure with the ink I use, I am running about 5 cents a card
> or so for a two sided card (picture on the front, QSO details on the
> back) and about 3 cents a card for the single sided (mostly white -
> all text).
>
>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm in the market for new QSL cards. My first choice of vendor never
>> returns e-mails, so I'm looking for another one. Anyone have a
>> recommendation for a QSL printer that can handle custom artwork in
>> Illustrator format?
>>
>> I haven't had new cards printed since 1977, which was about the time
>> I turned my attention to designing little radios.
>>
>> I think I owe a few of you cards, too :)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>> ---
>>
>> http://www.elecraft.com
>
> Randy Rathbun NV0U
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>
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Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU

Re: OT: QSL cards

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In reply to this post by wayne burdick

Wayne,

I have used the QSLKit and cheapqsls and recommend them both as well,
but for this task,
I recommend QSLWorks.com.

I got them to redo my novice card from 1969 from an old card I had.
They returned the old card undamaged, matched the design, etc.

Old card http://tinyurl.com/z4sws (click on thumbnail for larger image)
New card http://tinyurl.com/ox62e (again, click on thumbnail)

Leigh/WA5ZNU
On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 1:13 pm, wayne burdick wrote:

Tom Skinner-2

QSL cards + A Question

In reply to this post by Randy Rathbun NV0U

Hello Group,

I'm slowly returning to active status after a very long hiatus, and I'm
starting to fill up the log. I'm not sure if the "old etiquette" for QSLing
still holds.

In the past, exchanging QSL cards was considered part of the hobby - sort of
a polite way to "end" the QSO. I know representative costs are probably the
same now as they were "then", but in terms of actual dollars an active ham
could spend a whole bunch of money on paper.

Is it "OK" to send QSL cards (and expect a reply) to stations we work in
contests? Seems like that would be a huge expense for the contester - given
the cost of the QSL and current postage rates.

How about this eQSL thing, is it a worthwhile venture? LoTW? Do contesters
usually post their logs on these services? eQSL and LoTW seem kinda
sterile, but are they accepted as part of our computer-world?

73,

Tom, KJ3D

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Don Wilhelm-3

RE: OT: QSL cards

In reply to this post by KK7P

I make my own QSLs too on 110 lb paper stock (4 per page) and cut them after
they are printed, but I confine my printing to small batches only because
the cost of ink-jet printer ink may exceed the cost of having 500 or 1000
printed at a print shop. I have previously used the 4x6 cards, but was not
as satisfied with them as the 110 lb stock.

To create the card, I use a greeting card program that will do postcard
size - Announcements by Parson's Technology is much more versatile in
allowing you to create your own design than any other I have used.

73,
Don W3FPR

> -----Original Message-----
>
> > My preference is to head to the local office supply store and buy 4x6
> > blank index cards. They usually have sales on the things. Last time I
> > bought them they were a pack of 500 for $4.
>

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Dave G3VGR-2

Re: OT: QSL cards

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I would recommend LZ1JZ or UX5UO - both produce excellent cards at low
prices. I've been very pleased with full colour cards from both
printers. They also get consistently high ratings in the eHam reviews
73, Dave G3VGR
K2 #4783

wayne burdick wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I'm in the market for new QSL cards. My first choice of vendor never
> returns e-mails, so I'm looking for another one. Anyone have a
> recommendation for a QSL printer that can handle custom artwork in
> Illustrator format?
>
> I haven't had new cards printed since 1977, which was about the time I
> turned my attention to designing little radios.
>
> I think I owe a few of you cards, too :)
>
> Thanks,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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Stephen W. Kercel

Re: QSL cards + A Question

In reply to this post by Tom Skinner-2

Tom:

Paper QSLing has become very expensive.

eQSL is not recognized for major awards such as DXCC and WAS. (Unless
the policy has recently changed)

LOTW is recognized for DXCC and WAS, and is likely to expand to other
awards. I have about 1600 QSOs logged on LOTW resulting in about 200
QSLs, about 12.5% rate of return. Many contesters routinely upload
their Cabrillo files to LOTW, and most of my LOTW QSLs are from
contest QSOs. However, I do find that electronic QSLing is mere data
processing and nowhere nearly as interesting as collecting paper QSLs.

I will send a paper QSL to any station that sends me a paper QSL,
whether they include return postage or not. (I can afford to be
generous because I receive very few unsolicited QSL cards.)

In addition, if I really want a domestic QSL card (e.g., a new state
for 80 m QRP WAS), then I'll send a paper QSL and SASE with first
class postage affixed. My response rate is better than 90%.

For all other domestic QSOs, I QSL via LOTW.

On DX QSLing, if I really want a DX QSL card (e.g., a new DXCC
country), then I'll send a paper QSL and SASE with airmail postage
affixed. Rather than IRCs, I buy foreign airmail stamps from William
Plum. As with domestic SASEs, my response rate is better than 90%.

I QSL most other DX QSOs via the Outgoing ARRL Bureau.

One exception: I work a lot of contests and end up working the same
stations over and over again in different contests. Once I've swapped
QSLs with a given station on a given band, I usually do not send
paper QSLs for subsequent contacts with the same station on the same band.

Hope this helps,

73,

Steve
AA4AK

At 05:47 PM 6/5/2006, Tom Skinner wrote:

>Hello Group,
>
>I'm slowly returning to active status after a very long hiatus, and I'm
>starting to fill up the log. I'm not sure if the "old etiquette" for QSLing
>still holds.
>
>In the past, exchanging QSL cards was considered part of the hobby - sort of
>a polite way to "end" the QSO. I know representative costs are probably the
>same now as they were "then", but in terms of actual dollars an active ham
>could spend a whole bunch of money on paper.
>
>Is it "OK" to send QSL cards (and expect a reply) to stations we work in
>contests? Seems like that would be a huge expense for the contester - given
>the cost of the QSL and current postage rates.
>
>How about this eQSL thing, is it a worthwhile venture? LoTW? Do contesters
>usually post their logs on these services? eQSL and LoTW seem kinda
>sterile, but are they accepted as part of our computer-world?
>
>73,
>
>Tom, KJ3D
>
>
>
>
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Larry Makoski W2LJ

Re: OT: QSL cards

In reply to this post by KK7P

For commercially produced QSL cards, I use cheapqsls. They're great
folks to work with. For home printed QSL cards, I use Avery DesignPro
which is freeware and can be downloaded at Avery.com

73
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Larry W2LJ
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Craig Rairdin

RE: OT: QSL cards

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> I'm in the market for new QSL cards.

Avoid the foreign printers. There are too many domestic options that are
faster and just as cheap.

QSLWorks.com is pretty fast and dependable. I've used them a couple times.
They do custom fronts and backs and can do a design from elements you
provide or just work with your art.

I've also used iPrint.com when I have my own image. Just output it to an
appropriate resolution file and upload it to them. You can either do the
design yourself or you can start with a photo you upload and add text to it
using the tools on their Web site. Turn-around is faster than the dedicated
QSL printers and the price is about the same as I recall. Everything is
online, which is cool.

I'm not a fan of printing cards myself. The self-printed ones I receive are
nice and very much appreciated, but they look like crap compared to a
professionally printed card. They're also more expensive when you count all
the costs.

Craig
NZ0R
K1 #1966
K2/100 #4941
KX1 #1499

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RE: QSL cards + A Question

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> I'm slowly returning to active status after a very long hiatus, and I'm
> starting to fill up the log. I'm not sure if the "old etiquette" for
QSLing
> still holds.

I'm also a recent re-activated ham. I operate almost 100% contests only, so
my QSOs are a bit weird and not normally QSL'd. I try to QSL 100% though I'm
a bit behind. I find that I get cards from up to about 5% of my contest QSOs
without sending any. If I send out cards, I get a lot of response.

I tried eQSL for a while but it was like I was the only one there.

I haven't tried LOTW but I'm not against it.

Frankly, the electronic "cards" are nice for awards but nothing beats a
stack of postcards for browsing or displaying.

Craig
NZ0R
K1 #1966
K2/100 #4941
KX1 #1499

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Jay Schwisow

Re: QSL cards + A Question

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Tom,

It is ok to send cards and expect a reply. The class contesters will
return a QSL. It may take a few weeks to a month or so but your
response rate should be high. Yes - there are a few that will not
respond but this is also true of the rest of ham population.

eqsl and LOTW are both great. However, it is unfortunate that the ARRL
will not recognize eqsl for its awards. CQ Magazine, Japan and some of
the other foreign countries should be fine with eqsl. In addition, eqsl
has some of its own rewards.

Welcome back from being inactive and happy Qsling.

Jay - KT5E

Tom Skinner wrote:

Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy-2

Re: OT: QSL cards

In reply to this post by wayne burdick

Wayne wrote:

> I'm in the market for new QSL cards. My first choice of vendor never
> returns e-mails, so I'm looking for another one. Anyone have a
> recommendation for a QSL printer that can handle custom artwork in
> Illustrator format?

--------------------------------------------------------------------

Perhaps too far away for you, but I get my QSLs from THE QSL SHOP in
Germany.

73,
Geoff
GM4ESD

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Tom McCulloch

Re: OT: QSL cards

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Wayne,
Maybe Elecraft needs to run a seminar on customer service and invite your QSL card guy...hi

Tom
WB2QDG
K2 1103

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: wayne burdick <[hidden email]>

> Hi All,
>
> I'm in the market for new QSL cards. My first choice of vendor never
> returns e-mails, so I'm looking for another one. Anyone have a
> recommendation for a QSL printer that can handle custom artwork in
> Illustrator format?
>
> I haven't had new cards printed since 1977, which was about the time I
> turned my attention to designing little radios.
>
> I think I owe a few of you cards, too :)
>
> Thanks,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> ---
>
> http://www.elecraft.com
>
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Chris Kantarjiev K6DBG

Re: OT: QSL cards

In reply to this post by wayne burdick

Another vote for cheapqsls.com - I had an image (TIFF, I think) that
I wanted to use and Sue worked with me to turn it into a nice QSL card.
I'll probably modify it a bit for the next batch, but I'm quite
happy with this - and turnaround was very quick.

I'm relatively new to HF (last December). I send paper QSLs. I'm
collecting for WAS (mixed band QRP at this point) - I am split
between sending the card as post card and sending in an envelope,
and often (especially when I'm after a new state) will send in
an envelope with a SASE.

I've only had one DX contact so far :-) but I sent that card with
an IRC. It's too soon to count the response as missing...

73 de chris K6DBG

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Terry Kniffen

Re: OT: QSL cards

In reply to this post by wayne burdick

Hi Wayne - Just a thought

There is a lot of talent on this list; not only electronic, but must include
artistic as well (I'm not one of them). Why not have a contest for QSL
designs with great pictures of the K1, KX1, and K2 on the pretty side with
various backgrounds and necessary flexibility for the detailed info. You,
Eric and the staff be the judges - submit them to some of the vendors
mentioned for pricing and perhaps have them available through the Elecraft
web site. I for one would be interested.

73 Terry KF4FD K2 # 2008

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To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 4:10 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: QSL cards

wayne burdick

Re: OT: QSL cards

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Hi Terry,

This sounds like fun and is fine with me, but I'm totally swamped. Are
you volunteering to run the contest? :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR

> There is a lot of talent on this list; not only electronic, but must
> include artistic as well (I'm not one of them). Why not have a contest
> for QSL designs with great pictures of the K1, KX1, and K2 on the
> pretty side with various backgrounds and necessary flexibility for the
> detailed info. You, Eric and the staff be the judges - submit them to
> some of the vendors mentioned for pricing and perhaps have them
> available through the Elecraft web site. I for one would be
> interested.

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