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Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

K2QI
I stand corrected!

I don't think I've ever had something that used a DIN 5 plug... not sure
about my FT-840; that was a long time ago.

73,
James K2QI

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Don Cunningham <[hidden email]>wrote:

> James,
> As Joe said, the Din 5 plug has been around a LONG time.  I first used itin
> the late 1970's with my old Radio Shack Model I computer!!  It is a well
> made device, easily soldered even for those of us with impaired vision.  I
> have a "cheater" pigtail built for each of my rigs so the old HAL RTTY TU
> only needs to see an RCA on each end.  Works well for an old guy, hi.
> 73,
> Don, WB5HAK
>



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Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

 > not sure about my FT-840; that was a long time ago.

FT-840 had no provision for AFSK (no "PACKET" jack or "Patch" jack).

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV

On 11/15/2010 12:05 PM, James Sarte wrote:

> I stand corrected!
>
> I don't think I've ever had something that used a DIN 5 plug... not sure
> about my FT-840; that was a long time ago.
>
> 73,
> James K2QI
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Don Cunningham<[hidden email]>wrote:
>
>> James,
>> As Joe said, the Din 5 plug has been around a LONG time.  I first used itin
>> the late 1970's with my old Radio Shack Model I computer!!  It is a well
>> made device, easily soldered even for those of us with impaired vision.  I
>> have a "cheater" pigtail built for each of my rigs so the old HAL RTTY TU
>> only needs to see an RCA on each end.  Works well for an old guy, hi.
>> 73,
>> Don, WB5HAK
>>
>
>
>
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Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

K2QI
LOL.. maybe that's why I had such a hard time interfacing it.  If memory
serves, I think I ordered a kit TNC called TiniCAT or something like that.
It worked OK; didn't really function well with HRD though.

James K2QI

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>  > not sure about my FT-840; that was a long time ago.
>
> FT-840 had no provision for AFSK (no "PACKET" jack or "Patch" jack).
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
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Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

Pete Smith N4ZR
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Perhas best not on Carnival...

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On 11/15/2010 12:01 PM, KW4H wrote:

> Not to be deliberately crass, but I have absolutely no use for a $6,000+
> radio -- contesting or not.  Like most hams, this is a hobby I do for fun,
> and spending that kind of money on a transceiver is virtually unthinkable.
> For the price of that rig, I could buy some new living room furniture and
> take the XYL on a two week Caribbean cruise.
>
> 73!
>
> Steve, KW4H
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Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

K2QI
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Well, I would certainly hope that if one had the disposable income to buy an
FTDX5000, he would also have the resources to take care of the family.

My K3 was slightly north of $4k after all was said and done.  To many
others, that might seem exorbitant.  Anyway, it's all relative.

The important thing to keep in mind is priorities.  I'd certainly frown upon
someone who goes out to buy any expensive item and then not have the money
to feed the kids, take care of the YL, etc. etc.

This is after all, just a hobby.

Cheers,
James K2QI

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:01 PM, KW4H <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Not to be deliberately crass, but I have absolutely no use for a $6,000+
> radio -- contesting or not.  Like most hams, this is a hobby I do for fun,
> and spending that kind of money on a transceiver is virtually unthinkable.
> For the price of that rig, I could buy some new living room furniture and
> take the XYL on a two week Caribbean cruise.
>
> 73!
>
> Steve, KW4H
>
>
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Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

N8LP
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The panadapter limitations are easily taken care of with a 3rd party panadapter. FT5K versions are among the top 4 selling versions of LP-PAN. They were smart enough to include a built in IF output. More than I can say for Kenwood, who not only didn't provide an IF output jack on their latest offering, but came up with perhaps the goofiest conversion scheme I have seen in a long time.

Larry N8LP


Craig D. Smith wrote
I read and enjoyed the review.  It looks like a very good product, and will
no doubt sell well - as it should.

For me the only advantage it would have over my K3/P3 is the integrated 200
W capability and integrated power supply with > 12V power - both nice
features.  But I wouldn't consider buying one, the deal breakers being:
size/weight, audible QSK relay and single color panadapter w/o waterfall.
Not to mention the more intangibles, such as ease of firmware updates and
ability to do 80% of the servicing myself.  Close, but no cigar  ;>)

73  Craig  AC0DS



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Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

AD4C2009
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Well Steve,some guys takes hamradio very seriously and in spite of we can do better with a less than 3 grands K3,I know a guy who wanted deeply to own an IC-7800 but did not had that amount of cash,so what he did he waited till he payed off his last new car and then using a credit card he payed the 10 grands to purchase him a brand new IC-7800 that made feel very happy,and guess what even he is still paying montly the CC bills,he has never left his whole family out of anything,he can afford well his home bills with no problems,he has a healthy happy family and they all love him,and the best of all,he is a happy owner of a $10K radio in spite of it will take him 3 to 4 years to pay it off.Life in this country is for everybody so far you can pay your debts.
 
Hector
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--- On Mon, 11/15/10, James Sarte <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: James Sarte <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP
To: "KW4H" <[hidden email]>
Cc: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 8:04 PM


Well, I would certainly hope that if one had the disposable income to buy an
FTDX5000, he would also have the resources to take care of the family.

My K3 was slightly north of $4k after all was said and done.  To many
others, that might seem exorbitant.  Anyway, it's all relative.

The important thing to keep in mind is priorities.  I'd certainly frown upon
someone who goes out to buy any expensive item and then not have the money
to feed the kids, take care of the YL, etc. etc.

This is after all, just a hobby.

Cheers,
James K2QI

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:01 PM, KW4H <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Not to be deliberately crass, but I have absolutely no use for a $6,000+
> radio -- contesting or not.  Like most hams, this is a hobby I do for fun,
> and spending that kind of money on a transceiver is virtually unthinkable.
> For the price of that rig, I could buy some new living room furniture and
> take the XYL on a two week Caribbean cruise.
>
> 73!
>
> Steve, KW4H
>
>
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Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

K2QI
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This is one thing I don't understand with the TS-590s:

"For 1.8/3.5/7/14/21MHz amateur bands, when receiving in CW/FSK/SSB modes
down conversion is selected automatically if the final passband is 2.7kHz or
less"

So does that mean if the passband selected is greater than 2700 Hz, the
receiver switches to upconversion?!?

James K2QI

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:23 PM, N8LP <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> The panadapter limitations are easily taken care of with a 3rd party
> panadapter. FT5K versions are among the top 4 selling versions of LP-PAN.
> They were smart enough to include a built in IF output. More than I can say
> for Kenwood, who not only didn't provide an IF output jack on their latest
> offering, but came up with perhaps the goofiest conversion scheme I have
> seen in a long time.
>
> Larry N8LP
>
>
>
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Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

N8LP
  'Yup, as far as I can tell, and also for any BW on 12, 10 or 6m.

Larry N8LP


On 11/15/2010 3:33 PM, James Sarte wrote:

> This is one thing I don't understand with the TS-590s:
>
> "For 1.8/3.5/7/14/21MHz amateur bands, when receiving in CW/FSK/SSB
> modes down conversion is selected automatically if the final passband
> is 2.7kHz or less"
>
> So does that mean if the passband selected is greater than 2700 Hz,
> the receiver switches to upconversion?!?
>
> James K2QI
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:23 PM, N8LP <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>
>     The panadapter limitations are easily taken care of with a 3rd party
>     panadapter. FT5K versions are among the top 4 selling versions of
>     LP-PAN.
>     They were smart enough to include a built in IF output. More than
>     I can say
>     for Kenwood, who not only didn't provide an IF output jack on
>     their latest
>     offering, but came up with perhaps the goofiest conversion scheme
>     I have
>     seen in a long time.
>
>     Larry N8LP
>
>
>

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Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

n7ws
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Well, since I already took the XYL on a 2-week Alaskan cruise in August, I guess I'm good to go for the FT5000 :-)

But I won't.  I know I'm in the minority here, but if they took the second receiver out and lowered the cost accordingly, it would have more appeal.  I appreciate the TX IMD, except that keying waveform and resulting spectrum sucks.  I could do without the panadapter since the SDR-IQ as I use on the K3 suits my needs. The FT5000 size is more my cup of tea though.

I'm old enough to remember when the first new car I bought (also a Pontiac) stickered at $1,800, so $6K for a radio sounds like a lot of dough. But that was before the $100 bill became the new twenty and it was then half a year's salary.

To put things in perspective, I paid $2,200 for my TS-870 over 10 years ago and I still have it, and I wouldn't sell it for less than half that.  So on a cost per year basis, it's not much.  I don't play golf, so I'm entitled to at least one other indulgence.

Regards,

Wes Stewart, N7WS


--- On Mon, 11/15/10, KW4H <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Not to be deliberately crass, but I
> have absolutely no use for a $6,000+
> radio -- contesting or not.  Like most hams, this is a
> hobby I do for fun,
> and spending that kind of money on a transceiver is
> virtually unthinkable.
> For the price of that rig, I could buy some new living room
> furniture and
> take the XYL on a two week Caribbean cruise.
>
> 73!
>
> Steve, KW4H



     
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Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

K2QI
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That makes absolutely no sense to me. Can you or anyone else here well versed in radio design please explain to me why the Kenwood engineers would do this?  

Tnx,
James K2QI
------Original Message------
From: Larry Phipps
To: James Sarte
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP
Sent: Nov 15, 2010 15:50

  'Yup, as far as I can tell, and also for any BW on 12, 10 or 6m.

Larry N8LP


On 11/15/2010 3:33 PM, James Sarte wrote:

> This is one thing I don't understand with the TS-590s:
>
> "For 1.8/3.5/7/14/21MHz amateur bands, when receiving in CW/FSK/SSB
> modes down conversion is selected automatically if the final passband
> is 2.7kHz or less"
>
> So does that mean if the passband selected is greater than 2700 Hz,
> the receiver switches to upconversion?!?
>
> James K2QI
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:23 PM, N8LP <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>
>     The panadapter limitations are easily taken care of with a 3rd party
>     panadapter. FT5K versions are among the top 4 selling versions of
>     LP-PAN.
>     They were smart enough to include a built in IF output. More than
>     I can say
>     for Kenwood, who not only didn't provide an IF output jack on
>     their latest
>     offering, but came up with perhaps the goofiest conversion scheme
>     I have
>     seen in a long time.
>
>     Larry N8LP
>
>
>



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Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

Joe Subich, W4TV-4
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>> So does that mean if the passband selected is greater than 2700 Hz, the
>> receiver switches to upconversion?!?

Yes, as well is operation on 30, 17, 12 and 10 meters <G>.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 11/15/2010 3:33 PM, James Sarte wrote:

> This is one thing I don't understand with the TS-590s:
>
> "For 1.8/3.5/7/14/21MHz amateur bands, when receiving in CW/FSK/SSB modes
> down conversion is selected automatically if the final passband is 2.7kHz or
> less"
>
> So does that mean if the passband selected is greater than 2700 Hz, the
> receiver switches to upconversion?!?
>
> James K2QI
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:23 PM, N8LP<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>
>>
>> The panadapter limitations are easily taken care of with a 3rd party
>> panadapter. FT5K versions are among the top 4 selling versions of LP-PAN.
>> They were smart enough to include a built in IF output. More than I can say
>> for Kenwood, who not only didn't provide an IF output jack on their latest
>> offering, but came up with perhaps the goofiest conversion scheme I have
>> seen in a long time.
>>
>> Larry N8LP
>>
>>
>>
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Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

Joe Subich, W4TV-4
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>> That makes absolutely no sense to me. Can you or anyone else here
>> well versed in radio design please explain to me why the Kenwood
>> engineers would do this?

The best guess is that Kenwood did not want to invest in 1) the high
performance front end (bandpass) filters for the non-amateur bands,
2) quality 6 KHz and 15 KHz (low frequency) IF filters, 3) give up
coverage +/- 500 KHz of the "first" IF, and 4) their unlocked DDS
synthesizer would not work above 33 MHZ (limiting down conversion
to a maximum frequency of 22 MHz).

Very bad design with slick marketing.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 11/15/2010 4:38 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> That makes absolutely no sense to me. Can you or anyone else here well versed in radio design please explain to me why the Kenwood engineers would do this?
>
> Tnx,
> James K2QI
> ------Original Message------
> From: Larry Phipps
> To: James Sarte
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP
> Sent: Nov 15, 2010 15:50
>
>    'Yup, as far as I can tell, and also for any BW on 12, 10 or 6m.
>
> Larry N8LP
>
>
> On 11/15/2010 3:33 PM, James Sarte wrote:
>> This is one thing I don't understand with the TS-590s:
>>
>> "For 1.8/3.5/7/14/21MHz amateur bands, when receiving in CW/FSK/SSB
>> modes down conversion is selected automatically if the final passband
>> is 2.7kHz or less"
>>
>> So does that mean if the passband selected is greater than 2700 Hz,
>> the receiver switches to upconversion?!?
>>
>> James K2QI
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:23 PM, N8LP<[hidden email]
>> <mailto:[hidden email]>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>      The panadapter limitations are easily taken care of with a 3rd party
>>      panadapter. FT5K versions are among the top 4 selling versions of
>>      LP-PAN.
>>      They were smart enough to include a built in IF output. More than
>>      I can say
>>      for Kenwood, who not only didn't provide an IF output jack on
>>      their latest
>>      offering, but came up with perhaps the goofiest conversion scheme
>>      I have
>>      seen in a long time.
>>
>>      Larry N8LP
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Re: Some bands and modes are always upconversion on the TS-590

wayne burdick
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They're probably trying to save money by eliminating a bunch of tight  
band-pass filters for the ham bands. They're betting that no one needs  
high dynamic range on any bands other than 1.8/3.5/7/14/21 MHz, nor on  
any modes other than SSB/FSK/CW.

I beg to differ :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:38 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> That makes absolutely no sense to me. Can you or anyone else here  
> well versed in radio design please explain to me why the Kenwood  
> engineers would do this?
>
> Tnx,
> James K2QI
> ------Original Message------
> From: Larry Phipps
> To: James Sarte
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP
> Sent: Nov 15, 2010 15:50
>
>  'Yup, as far as I can tell, and also for any BW on 12, 10 or 6m.
>
> Larry N8LP
>
>
> On 11/15/2010 3:33 PM, James Sarte wrote:
>> This is one thing I don't understand with the TS-590s:
>>
>> "For 1.8/3.5/7/14/21MHz amateur bands, when receiving in CW/FSK/SSB
>> modes down conversion is selected automatically if the final passband
>> is 2.7kHz or less"
>>
>> So does that mean if the passband selected is greater than 2700 Hz,
>> the receiver switches to upconversion?!?
>>
>> James K2QI
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:23 PM, N8LP <[hidden email]
>> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>    The panadapter limitations are easily taken care of with a 3rd  
>> party
>>    panadapter. FT5K versions are among the top 4 selling versions of
>>    LP-PAN.
>>    They were smart enough to include a built in IF output. More than
>>    I can say
>>    for Kenwood, who not only didn't provide an IF output jack on
>>    their latest
>>    offering, but came up with perhaps the goofiest conversion scheme
>>    I have
>>    seen in a long time.
>>
>>    Larry N8LP
>>
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Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

ab2tc
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Hmm, item 4 about the synth not going above 33MHz does not make any sense. With a 1st IF of 73MHz for the up-conversion path, the LO would have to be 103MHz just to reach 30MHz and 127MHz to get to 54MHz.

AB2TC - Knut

Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote
>> That makes absolutely no sense to me. Can you or anyone else here
>> well versed in radio design please explain to me why the Kenwood
>> engineers would do this?

The best guess is that Kenwood did not want to invest in 1) the high
performance front end (bandpass) filters for the non-amateur bands,
2) quality 6 KHz and 15 KHz (low frequency) IF filters, 3) give up
coverage +/- 500 KHz of the "first" IF, and 4) their unlocked DDS
synthesizer would not work above 33 MHZ (limiting down conversion
to a maximum frequency of 22 MHz).

Very bad design with slick marketing.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV

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Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

> Hmm, item 4 about the synth not going above 33MHz does not make any
> sense. With a 1st IF of 73MHz for the up-conversion path, the LO
> would have to be 103MHz just to reach 30MHz and 127MHz to get to
> 54MHz.

The "up conversion" receiver uses a completely different synthesizer
(and different synthesizer design).  In fact, the "up conversion"
receiver is essentially an entirely separate receiver from the
antenna (T/R switch) to the DSP unit.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 11/15/2010 5:48 PM, ab2tc wrote:

>
> Hmm, item 4 about the synth not going above 33MHz does not make any sense.
> With a 1st IF of 73MHz for the up-conversion path, the LO would have to be
> 103MHz just to reach 30MHz and 127MHz to get to 54MHz.
>
> AB2TC - Knut
>
>
> Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> That makes absolutely no sense to me. Can you or anyone else here
>>>> well versed in radio design please explain to me why the Kenwood
>>>> engineers would do this?
>>
>> The best guess is that Kenwood did not want to invest in 1) the high
>> performance front end (bandpass) filters for the non-amateur bands,
>> 2) quality 6 KHz and 15 KHz (low frequency) IF filters, 3) give up
>> coverage +/- 500 KHz of the "first" IF, and 4) their unlocked DDS
>> synthesizer would not work above 33 MHZ (limiting down conversion
>> to a maximum frequency of 22 MHz).
>>
>> Very bad design with slick marketing.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>      ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>
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Re: Some bands and modes are always upconversion on the TS-590

Eugene Balinski
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   I am sure that they were all design trade-offs made to
get the radio to meet a certain market price point.  The
question is "how much bang do you get for the buck"?  Is a
K-3 worth the (nominal) $1,200 more ?    

    To us, the answer is yes.  To others, the improvement
seen in the receiver may not be worth the extra money given
the manner is which they operate.  Also, there are plenty
of hams that can just not afford a $3,000.00 + radio no
matter how good it is,  and the Kenwood gives them a nice
rig for the price point.   As they say,  different
strokes....

73
Gene K1NR

K2 - 6Kxx


On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:17:56 -0800
 Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:

> They're probably trying to save money by eliminating a
> bunch of tight  
> band-pass filters for the ham bands. They're betting that
> no one needs  
> high dynamic range on any bands other than
> 1.8/3.5/7/14/21 MHz, nor on  
> any modes other than SSB/FSK/CW.
>
> I beg to differ :)
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:38 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>
> > That makes absolutely no sense to me. Can you or anyone
> else here  
> > well versed in radio design please explain to me why
> the Kenwood  
> > engineers would do this?
> >
> > Tnx,
> > James K2QI
> > ------Original Message------
> > From: Larry Phipps
> > To: James Sarte
> > Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu
> FTDX5000MP
> > Sent: Nov 15, 2010 15:50
> >
> >  'Yup, as far as I can tell, and also for any BW on 12,
> 10 or 6m.
> >
> > Larry N8LP
> >
> >
> > On 11/15/2010 3:33 PM, James Sarte wrote:
> >> This is one thing I don't understand with the TS-590s:
> >>
> >> "For 1.8/3.5/7/14/21MHz amateur bands, when receiving
> in CW/FSK/SSB
> >> modes down conversion is selected automatically if the
> final passband
> >> is 2.7kHz or less"
> >>
> >> So does that mean if the passband selected is greater
> than 2700 Hz,
> >> the receiver switches to upconversion?!?
> >>
> >> James K2QI
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:23 PM, N8LP
> <[hidden email]
> >> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>    The panadapter limitations are easily taken care of
> with a 3rd  
> >> party
> >>    panadapter. FT5K versions are among the top 4
> selling versions of
> >>    LP-PAN.
> >>    They were smart enough to include a built in IF
> output. More than
> >>    I can say
> >>    for Kenwood, who not only didn't provide an IF
> output jack on
> >>    their latest
> >>    offering, but came up with perhaps the goofiest
> conversion scheme
> >>    I have
> >>    seen in a long time.
> >>
> >>    Larry N8LP
> >>
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Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

Don Wilhelm-4
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  Conclusion - they are not using the DDS synth for the up-conversion.
Now, I don't know that for certain, but speculation says that may be
what is happening.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/15/2010 5:48 PM, ab2tc wrote:
> Hmm, item 4 about the synth not going above 33MHz does not make any sense.
> With a 1st IF of 73MHz for the up-conversion path, the LO would have to be
> 103MHz just to reach 30MHz and 127MHz to get to 54MHz.
>
> AB2TC - Knut
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Re: Some bands and modes are always upconversion on the TS-590

Randy Hall
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I am just glad to see Kenwood has finally hatched a new radio.

It has been a long time coming.

Yaesu FTxx-5000, Tentec Eagle, the more the better!

Randy
K7AGE
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Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

ab2tc
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Wow, that is really bizarre. Talk about waisting resources. The price is really a bargain considering all the hardware you get...

AB2TC - Knut

Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote
<snip>

The "up conversion" receiver uses a completely different synthesizer
(and different synthesizer design).  In fact, the "up conversion"
receiver is essentially an entirely separate receiver from the
antenna (T/R switch) to the DSP unit.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV

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