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Damon, KC5CQW wrote.... "BTW, I just found out that UPS ground shipping with insurance to Elecraft is about $48!!! I think I got ripped off! I just hope the repairs are simple! " I sure the repairs will be Damon...but UPS rates have soared since gas and diesel have skyrocketed. I ordered a 10 dollar part from Mouser and they shipped it for 10 dollars. So the 10 dollar part cost me 20 bucks. I called Mouser to complain but of course they could do nothing about the charges. I asked them to make provision on the web site to choose USPS. Much cheaper for small parts. I have been using US Postal Service for all my shipping. They are cheaper right now, and I sure an increase will be in the works, but they good service as well. Also, they do not up charge for shipping like other agents for UPS. Right now the USPS is a great bargain for shipping. Lee K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> I have been using US Postal Service for all my shipping. > They are cheaper right now, and I sure an increase will be > in the works, but they good service as well. Also, they > do not up charge for shipping like other agents for UPS. > Right now the USPS is a great bargain for shipping. Yes, USPS rates will be increasing on May 12. However, their rates are still much lower than either UPS or FedEX ground for similar service - both Express Mail and Priority Mail are much less expensive than "Next Day" and "Two day" service with signature confirmation to residential addresses than the competition. I use 100% USPS for my shipping. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Lee Buller > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:20 AM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] OT: UPS Rates - Editorial Comment > > > > Damon, KC5CQW wrote.... > > "BTW, I just found out that UPS ground shipping with insurance > to Elecraft is about $48!!! I think I got ripped off! > I just hope the repairs are simple! " > > I sure the repairs will be Damon...but UPS rates have soared > since gas and diesel have skyrocketed. I ordered a 10 dollar > part from Mouser and they shipped it for 10 dollars. So the > 10 dollar part cost me 20 bucks. I called Mouser to complain > but of course they could do nothing about the charges. I > asked them to make provision on the web site to choose USPS. > Much cheaper > for small parts. > > I have been using US Postal Service for all my shipping. > They are cheaper right now, and I sure an increase will be > in the works, but they good service as well. Also, they > do not up charge for shipping like other agents for UPS. > Right now the USPS is a great bargain for shipping. > > Lee > K0WA > > > > > In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short > supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common > Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask > for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common > Sense divine? _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Another factor to be considered ...
If you live in the outback as we do, UPS is usually only available via an agent, who adds an additional small fee for "handling" the shipment. In our case it's $2.00. Should I want to go to the UPS warehouse/terminal to pick up an item ... like my new K3 kit! ... it's a 60 mile round trip and they'll only let me in from 4 to 5 PM. I have a large PO box and my mail's available anytime. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [hidden email] _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Joe Subich, W4TV-3
In addition to what Joe just posted, there is now a "FOREVER" (USPS
name) first class stamp available at today's price (41 cents) which will remain effective for as long as your supply lasts regardless of future rate increases. I asked the teller what would prevent someone from coming in and buying $10,000 worth and without blinking she replied, "we've already had people do that." At present they are only available in strips of 20 rather than rolls of 100 which I prefer, but that will undoubtedly change. So before May 12th rolls around, you might want to consider loading up on them. It prevents having to buy small-increment stamps to paste alongside the current stamp when rates go. Plus, you can obviously save a bunch of money on down the road. K9ZTV Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > Yes, USPS rates will be increasing on May 12. However, their > rates are still much lower than either UPS or FedEX ground for > similar service - both Express Mail and Priority Mail are > much less expensive than "Next Day" and "Two day" service > with signature confirmation to residential addresses than the > competition. > > I use 100% USPS for my shipping. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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You would be hard pressed to beat the USPS today. The Priority Mail
flat rate service is the way to go. Check here: http://www.usps.com/shipping/flatrate.htm?from=priority&page=flatrate <http://www.usps.com/shipping/flatrate.htm?from=priority&page=flatrate> $4.60 for an envelope and $8.95 for a box. Whatever you can fit in it, and they furnish the box or envelope too. Free sizes here: http://shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductCategoryDisplay?catalogId=10152&storeId=10001&categoryId=13359&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=11820&top_category=11820 <http://shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductCategoryDisplay?catalogId=10152&storeId=10001&categoryId=13359&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=11820&top_category=11820> I've abandoned a purchase when the vendor could or would not use this service. Why pay 2 or more times the USPS rate for ground service across the country by one of the Big 3 carriers taking 5 days, this is usually 3 day service. No, I'm not a Postal Employee just a satisfied user of the service..... I'll concede that the tracking of a package is not as good. All you get is pick up and delivery. 73, Bob K2TK >I have been using US Postal Service for all my shipping. >They are cheaper right now, and I sure an increase will be >in the works, but they good service as well. Also, they >do not up charge for shipping like other agents for UPS. >Right now the USPS is a great bargain for shipping. > >Lee >K0WA > > > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Lee, et al:
At 09:20 03/31/2008, Lee Buller wrote: >I sure the repairs will be Damon...but UPS rates have soared since gas >and diesel have skyrocketed. I ordered a 10 dollar part from >Mouser and they shipped it for 10 dollars. So the 10 dollar part >cost me 20 bucks. I called Mouser to complain but of course >they could do nothing about the charges. I asked them to >make provision on the web site to choose USPS. Much cheaper >for small parts. > >I have been using US Postal Service for all my shipping. >They are cheaper right now, and I sure an increase will be >in the works, but they good service as well. Also, they >do not up charge for shipping like other agents for UPS. >Right now the USPS is a great bargain for shipping. Actually, MOUSER _does_ apply a 'handling fee' for items shipped via the US Postal System, since they (MOUSER) claim they must hand-carry (don't ask my why) the packages TO the post office. Seems I've read a number of places that the USPS will come and PICK up your packages if you have enough volume... surely MOUSER would fit that description. Anyway, MOUSER does charge a handling fee for USPS-shipped items, AND if you ship them PRIORITY MAIL, there's also a 'tracking charge' for that 'feature' (which is essentially WORTHLESS since you can't TRACK anything in the USPS until several WEEKS after it's been shipped). MOUSER does NOT charge a handling fee for UPS or FedEx shipments, but there IS an additional fee charges for RESIDENTIAL deliveries, so if you can get your packages shipped to your office, or to that of a friend, you will same some $$ as well. 73, Tom N0SS _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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-----Original Message----- I've abandoned a purchase when the vendor could or would not use this service. Why pay 2 or more times the USPS rate for ground service across the country by one of the Big 3 carriers taking 5 days, this is usually 3 day service. No, I'm not a Postal Employee just a satisfied user of the service..... I'll concede that the tracking of a package is not as good. All you get is pick up and delivery. ----------------------------- A couple of reasons. As you mention, there is no tracking ability. Not only can you not figure out where the package is, neither can USPS. If the package didn't arrive when you thought it did, they'll say "wait a couple of weeks". The other issue is insurance cost. USPS seems low cost until you ship a $600 item and have to pay for insurance coverage. Then the costs become much more similar. As bad as FedEx and UPS are for damage claims, the USPS is far worse. So, for small items, low $$ items, USPS is a great way to go. For truly important stuff, stuff that has real value to it, I'm usually going with FedEx or UPS. - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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"Forever stamps" are especially useful for sending SASEs with QSL
cards to domestic QSL managers. Since there can be several months delay before the manager replies to QSLs for big operations, the "Forever stamp" assures that the postage will be sufficient when the manager finally does send a card to you irrespective of any rate increases in the meantime. 73, Steve Kercel AA4AK At 11:20 AM 3/31/2008, K9ZTV wrote: >In addition to what Joe just posted, there is now a "FOREVER" (USPS >name) first class stamp available at today's price (41 cents) which >will remain effective for as long as your supply lasts regardless of >future rate increases. I asked the teller what would prevent >someone from coming in and buying $10,000 worth and without blinking >she replied, "we've already had people do that." At present they >are only available in strips of 20 rather than rolls of 100 which I >prefer, but that will undoubtedly change. > >So before May 12th rolls around, you might want to consider loading >up on them. It prevents having to buy small-increment stamps to >paste alongside the current stamp when rates go. Plus, you can >obviously save a bunch of money on down the road. > >K9ZTV _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I'm not all that familiar with UPS rates now and previously.
But it doesn't make much sense that rates would have "skyrocketed" just because of the increased cost of fuel. If this has indeed happened, then I think UPS is using fuel costs as an excuse to inordinately raise prices. Fuel costs are only part of the overall cost of shipping, and they shouldn't represent the majority of the overall cost. Like most other services, salaries, equipment costs, facility costs, etc. should represent most of the cost. Fuel costs may have doubled, or nearly so, in the past year, but that should only apply to a portion of the overall cost. They can spread this increased cost over a lot of packages. If this weren't true, you would see similar increases in food costs, etc. These have gone up too, but not as dramatically as you make it sound for shipping of packages. But you don't say how much the increase really is, so I can't make any kind of real comparison. USPS priority mail has been a very cost effective way to ship smaller packages and envelopes for some time. It has always been cheaper than UPS, and I find it to generally be faster! The one thing that is lacking is the ability to track your package. If I am given the option, I usually choose USPS priority mail. I've never had a problem using that option, but I must admit the lack of tracking is something that would make me nervous if it were something truly valuable being shipped. Priority mail can be 1 to 2 days faster than UPS. I'm not sure you could send something as big as a radio by Priority Mail, but perhaps a smaller radio would be allowed size wise. But I don't think I would be shipping my K3 via USPS. I want to know exactly where it is all the way to the destination. The tracking systems used by FedEx and UPS pretty much guarantee your package won't get lost. Dave W7AQK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <[hidden email]> To: "Lee Buller" <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: UPS Rates - Editorial Comment > You would be hard pressed to beat the USPS today. The > Priority Mail flat rate > service is the way to go. Check here: > > http://www.usps.com/shipping/flatrate.htm?from=priority&page=flatrate > <http://www.usps.com/shipping/flatrate.htm?from=priority&page=flatrate> > > $4.60 for an envelope and $8.95 for a box. Whatever you > can fit in it, and they > furnish the box or envelope too. Free sizes here: > > http://shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductCategoryDisplay?catalogId=10152&storeId=10001&categoryId=13359&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=11820&top_category=11820 > <http://shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductCategoryDisplay?catalogId=10152&storeId=10001&categoryId=13359&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=11820&top_category=11820> > > I've abandoned a purchase when the vendor could or would > not use this service. > Why pay 2 or more times the USPS rate for ground service > across the country by > one of the Big 3 carriers taking 5 days, this is usually 3 > day service. > > No, I'm not a Postal Employee just a satisfied user of the > service..... I'll concede > that the tracking of a package is not as good. All you get > is pick up and delivery. > > 73, > Bob > K2TK >>I have been using US Postal Service for all my shipping. >>They are cheaper right now, and I sure an increase will be >>in the works, but they good service as well. Also, they >>do not up charge for shipping like other agents for UPS. >>Right now the USPS is a great bargain for shipping. >> >>Lee >>K0WA >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Let's all hope that the Elecraft Order Page is wrong re shipping costs
for the CW Mod Kit: USPS to Canada for Priority is $20 and for Express is close to $30, the only options we have. I've asked Elecraft to hold this item and ship it with the KRX3 when it hits the street. Gary, VE1RGB Bob wrote: > You would be hard pressed to beat the USPS today. The Priority Mail > flat rate > service is the way to go. > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Have just been informed by N0SS that the FOREVER stamps are in fact
available in 100-stamp rolls. Thanks, Tom, for the update. Kent K9ZTV _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Tom Hammond-2
Sounds like BS to me.... "Free, regardless of the number of packages your
sending", a quote from their site here: http://www.usps.com/pickup/welcome.htm Only catch is if their delivery is say 9A your package might not leave until the next morning. I have never used this service as I have a POB so am a regular at the Post Office. 73, Bob K2TK Tom Hammond wrote: > > Actually, MOUSER _does_ apply a 'handling fee' for items shipped via > the US Postal System, since they (MOUSER) claim they must hand-carry > (don't ask my why) the packages TO the post office. Seems I've read > a number of places that the USPS will come and PICK up your packages > if you have enough volume... surely MOUSER would fit that description. > > 73, > > Tom N0SS > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Not on the web, apparently.
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:55:04 -0500 From: K9ZTV <[hidden email]> Have just been informed by N0SS that the FOREVER stamps are in fact available in 100-stamp rolls. Thanks, Tom, for the update. Kent K9ZTV _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Just a few comments on this topic. A little over a year ago, I visited a
family member in Albuquerque, NM. They gave me an original painting, oil on canvas, and told me to enjoy it. Just before (maybe two hours prior) leaving for home, I went to a ABQ post office (USPS) and had the painting, now packed in a proper sized box, shipped via Express mail. Early the next morning I answered a knock on the door. It was a letter carrier with the painting that I had to sign for. Total cost including the Express mail charge was about $35.00. On the "other" companies, a few years ago another family member gave us some entertainment equipment. After a short time the unit stopped working as it should. I contacted the maker and they gave authorization to return it via FedEx for repair or replacement. I paid a little extra (I forgot how much) for a tracking number for the item going to the maker. They sent me a tracking number on a replacement unit they were sending to replace the one sent in. FedEx reported that the item had been received by the local terminal and had been placed on a truck for delivery. Three weeks later it still was not delivered. I had to ask the maker of the unit to file a claim with the carrier (FedEx) in order to finally get a replacement unit delivered. For that reason, FedEx is nowhere near the top three in terms of carriers that would be selected if I had to ship any item for whatever reason. Of course, YMMV. Jim KD5VXH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <[hidden email]> To: "Lee Buller" <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: UPS Rates - Editorial Comment > You would be hard pressed to beat the USPS today. The Priority Mail flat > rate > service is the way to go. Check here: > > http://www.usps.com/shipping/flatrate.htm?from=priority&page=flatrate > <http://www.usps.com/shipping/flatrate.htm?from=priority&page=flatrate> > > $4.60 for an envelope and $8.95 for a box. Whatever you can fit in it, > and they > furnish the box or envelope too. Free sizes here: > > http://shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductCategoryDisplay?catalogId=10152&storeId=10001&categoryId=13359&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=11820&top_category=11820 > <http://shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductCategoryDisplay?catalogId=10152&storeId=10001&categoryId=13359&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=11820&top_category=11820> > > I've abandoned a purchase when the vendor could or would not use this > service. > Why pay 2 or more times the USPS rate for ground service across the > country by > one of the Big 3 carriers taking 5 days, this is usually 3 day service. > > No, I'm not a Postal Employee just a satisfied user of the service..... > I'll concede > that the tracking of a package is not as good. All you get is pick up and > delivery. > > 73, > Bob > K2TK >>I have been using US Postal Service for all my shipping. >>They are cheaper right now, and I sure an increase will be in the works, >>but they good service as well. Also, they >>do not up charge for shipping like other agents for UPS. >>Right now the USPS is a great bargain for shipping. >> >>Lee >>K0WA >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On 3/31/2008 9:53 AM, T. David Yarnes wrote:
> I want to know exactly where it is > all the way to the destination. The tracking systems used by FedEx and > UPS pretty much guarantee your package won't get lost. Ummmm.... I've shipped and waited for quite a number of packages via UPS Ground and the FedEx equivalent. Being railroad oriented, I can usually determine which railroad it is on (yes, the Ground services ship by rail) by the terminal involved, but quite often the only scans are when the container is transferred from one rail carrier to the next. Example - a package headed here will be scanned at origin and the first intermodal rail terminal, then at a transfer point near Chicago, then "silence" for three days until it arrives in Portland (OR) which is the intermodal terminal serving this area. I do know the transit times if all is in order, but if the train sits out in the middle of nowhere for a day or two or three for any of several reasons that are proffer to cover that eventuality (been there, done that, eight summer hours in the Mojave Desert at one time because of a derailment ahead and the crew having to be relieved), the tracking site will not show it until the destination terminal scan. With that said, I use USPS and the ground services of UPS and FedEx as appropriate. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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>Damon, KC5CQW wrote.... > >"BTW, I just found out that UPS ground shipping with insurance >to Elecraft is about $48!!! I think I got ripped off! >I just hope the repairs are simple! " ANY BIG shipper... probably not elecraft ( too small) can get BIG discounts from UPS.Probably fedx also. So a published price & the price you and I Pay to ship a box might be $ 21.00. A big shipper might get 40-50 % off list.... Then of course they don't have to PASS THAT ON TO YOU. BUT RATHER ADD TO THE warehouse costs of doing business.,,,, or more accurately reduce costs... Wars probably go on as to which department get to take the difference. Some companies that add freight to the bill actually only charge actual costs... not the published cost. bill _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Lets rest this thread (and related ones) for now. If not, it could
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> A couple of reasons. As you mention, there is no tracking > ability. Not only can you not figure out where the package > is, neither can USPS. If the package didn't arrive when you > thought it did, they'll say "wait a couple of weeks". Priority Mail, if handled properly by the originator, will show time and date of the originating Post Office, receipt at the destination regional mail facility if any, receipt at the destination Post Office and delivery information with a 12 hour (approx) lag. I use it all the time. > The other issue is insurance cost. USPS seems low cost until > you ship a $600 item and have to pay for insurance coverage. > Then the costs become much more similar. Even with insurance USPS is far less expensive than US or FedEx unless the shipper has "negotiated" rates. > As bad as FedEx and UPS are for damage claims, the USPS is > far worse. I've had far less difficulty with loss claims with USPS than with either UPS or FedEx (both of which seem to use third party insurance companies). USPS will take up to six weeks to pay off a claim but they have been quite reasonable to deal with (including international claims). 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Darwin, Keith > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 12:46 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] OT: UPS Rates - Editorial Comment > > > > > -----Original Message----- > I've abandoned a purchase when the vendor could or would not > use this service. Why pay 2 or more times the USPS rate for > ground service across the country by one of the Big 3 > carriers taking 5 days, this is usually 3 day service. > > No, I'm not a Postal Employee just a satisfied user of the > service..... > I'll concede > that the tracking of a package is not as good. All you get is > pick up and delivery. > ----------------------------- > > A couple of reasons. As you mention, there is no tracking > ability. Not only can you not figure out where the package > is, neither can USPS. If the package didn't arrive when you > thought it did, they'll say "wait a couple of weeks". > > The other issue is insurance cost. USPS seems low cost until > you ship a $600 item and have to pay for insurance coverage. > Then the costs become much more similar. As bad as FedEx and > UPS are for damage claims, the USPS is far worse. > > So, for small items, low $$ items, USPS is a great way to go. > For truly important stuff, stuff that has real value to it, > I'm usually going with FedEx or UPS. > > - Keith N1AS - > - K2 5411.ssb.100 - _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Please gents!
What is this? There must be a better place than the Elecraft list to discuss USPS vs UPS!!! Please, I subscribe to this group to learn about my Elecraft radio... 73 de Björn /SM0MDG _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Amen, why does everyone go off on these rants no related to Elecraft?
Jim K4JAF ----- Original Message ----- From: "Björn Mohr" <[hidden email]> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: UPS Rates - Editorial Comment Please gents! What is this? There must be a better place than the Elecraft list to discuss USPS vs UPS!!! Please, I subscribe to this group to learn about my Elecraft radio... 73 de Björn /SM0MDG _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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