In a parallel thread VP8NO wanted to filter K4-related posts...and now
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On 10/6/2020 11:48 AM, John Harper wrote:
> Folks, the correct way to read this reflector is to turn of email from it > entirely. Instead look at it here, only clicking on the links of interest > to you: Maybe correct for you, not for me and many others. The minimum time I have to work the mouse, the happier I am. As we children of the '50s would say "Whatever works". > If you try to set up email filters to improve the S:N ratio, you'll soon > come to the conclusion that 'that way lies madness'. Albert Einstein is widely credited with saying, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results." 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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It's mostly the same culprits who initiate off topic posts, so filtering by sender would catch 95% of it. Dave AB7E On 10/6/2020 11:48 AM, John Harper wrote: > In a parallel thread VP8NO wanted to filter K4-related posts...and now > there's this! > > Folks, the correct way to read this reflector is to turn of email from it > entirely. Instead look at it here, only clicking on the links of interest > to you: > http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2020-October/date.html > > If you try to set up email filters to improve the S:N ratio, you'll soon > come to the conclusion that 'that way lies madness'. > > John AE5X > https://ae5x.blogspot.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Another interesting fact about US broadcast station callsigns is that back before U.S. maritime radioTELEGRAPHY ended (except for rare historical exercises) in 1999, most US-flag merchant ships with radiotelegraph stations were assigned four-letter callsigns beginning with K or W. There are no longer many such calls that are still assigned to merchant shipping. A quick random search at:
https://www.itu.int/mmsapp/ShipStation/list found KPLB, WGDX, WQUI. Twenty-five years ago and earlier there were hundreds of US ships whose radiotelegraph station had callsigns of broadcast station format. Maritime radiotelegraph coastal stations like KPH, WCC, WOM used the same call format as some broadcast stations like KSL, WLS, WOR, WSM, etc. Maritime ship radiotelegraph callsigns were not affected by location for assigning K or W as first letter. Forty years ago I held a commercial radiotelegraph license. After I received ham call KK5F, I day-dreamed about having a ship with maritime radiotelegraph call KKHF to match. :-) Mike / KK5F -----Original Message----- >From: [hidden email] >Sent: Oct 6, 2020 12:04 PM > >More than you ever wanted to know about the convention of giving "W" >callsigns to broadcast stations east of the Mississippi and "K" >callsigns to the west: > > https://earlyradiohistory.us/kwtrivia.htm ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
On 10/6/2020 1:04 PM, Mike Morrow wrote: > Another interesting fact about US broadcast station callsigns is that > back before U.S. maritime radioTELEGRAPHY ended (except for rare > historical exercises) in 1999, most US-flag merchant ships with > radiotelegraph stations were assigned four-letter callsigns beginning > with K or W. As others have posted, the convention was that Broadcast stations east of the Mississippi were given W call letters and west of the Mississippi were given K call letters (with noted exceptions). Ocean-going ships had the opposite according to their home port of registration. > There are no longer many such calls that are still assigned to > merchant shipping. When I started doing ship safety radio inspections in 1967 there were 600+ such vessels in the US registry, not counting the WW-II-era Victory ships that were owned by the U S Maritime Commission and were being pulled out of "Red Lead Row" (deep storage Reserve Fleets) and operated under contract to support the Vietnam War going on at that time. New ship radiotelegraph stations will be licensed as part of the ship's radio station license under the now-standard XXXnnnn call letters. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
When my boss built his first radio station he told the FCC that the station was NORTH of the Mississippi. They let him pick W or K.
-de John NI0K > On Oct 6, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Phil Kane <[hidden email]> wrote: > > >> On 10/6/2020 1:04 PM, Mike Morrow wrote: >> >> Another interesting fact about US broadcast station callsigns is that >> back before U.S. maritime radioTELEGRAPHY ended (except for rare >> historical exercises) in 1999, most US-flag merchant ships with >> radiotelegraph stations were assigned four-letter callsigns beginning >> with K or W. > > As others have posted, the convention was that Broadcast stations east > of the Mississippi were given W call letters and west of the Mississippi > were given K call letters (with noted exceptions). Ocean-going ships > had the opposite according to their home port of registration. > >> There are no longer many such calls that are still assigned to >> merchant shipping. > > When I started doing ship safety radio inspections in 1967 there were > 600+ such vessels in the US registry, not counting the WW-II-era Victory > ships that were owned by the U S Maritime Commission and were being > pulled out of "Red Lead Row" (deep storage Reserve Fleets) and operated > under contract to support the Vietnam War going on at that time. New > ship radiotelegraph stations will be licensed as part of the ship's > radio station license under the now-standard XXXnnnn call letters. > > 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane > Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 > > From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest > Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Given that this thread very plainly contains "OT", for Off
Topic, in the subject line, anyone wanting only information about Elecraft equipment should have already filtered it out. Many posters are careful to label their off topic posts with OT. Many are also careful to label their posts with the specific piece of equipment they are discussing. Of course, we have subject drift, and people aren't super good about changing the subject line when they change the subject. BTW, I read almost everything on the list because I consider it to be a community and I like to try to help the people in this community when I can. 73 Bill AE6JV On 10/6/20 at 2:48 PM, [hidden email] (John Harper) wrote: >Folks, the correct way to read this reflector is to turn of email from it >entirely. Instead look at it here, only clicking on the links of interest >to you: >http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2020-October/date.html > >If you try to set up email filters to improve the S:N ratio, you'll soon >come to the conclusion that 'that way lies madness'. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | If you want total security, go to prison. There you're 408-348-7900 | fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only www.pwpconsult.com | thing lacking is freedom. - Dwight D. Eisenhower ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
I'm the guilty party who started the original off-topic thread. Sorry
about that! If you're using the Thunderbird email client, the following is the easiest way to automatically remove unwanted messages: 1. Click on the message. 2. Click on the menu icon (three horizontal lines) in the upper right of the window. 3. Click on "Message" then "Create Filter from Message". 4. Change the "From" field to "Subject". (Or leave it at "From" if you want to flag the sender rather than the subject.) 5. Change the "Is" field to "Contains" 6. In the next field, enter "OT" or whatever text you want to flag in the subject line. 7. In the sub-window below that, choose the folder you want to send the message to. (Perhaps "Trash"?) 8. Click "OK" Alan N1AL On 10/7/2020 8:42 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: > Given that this thread very plainly contains "OT", for Off Topic, in > the subject line, anyone wanting only information about Elecraft > equipment should have already filtered it out. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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