[OT] Windows XP SP3 :<(

[Gary Hvizdak]

Even after the recent news reports about problems with it, I just made the
stupid mistake of installing Microsoft's XP Service Pack 3 on my Dell
Dimension 9100 with ATI Radeon display adaptor.  Afterwards my 20" flat
panel monitor (which supports 1600 x 1200 DPI resolution at 32 bit color
depth) was reduced to 648 x 480 @ 16 colors.  I was able to increase this
all the way to 800 x 600 @ 16 colors!

 

Three hours later I'm now back on SP2.

 

I have submitted a report to Microsoft about this.

 

The problem may be due to my having rotated my display to portrait
orientation during the installation of SP3, but I'm not about try
reinstalling SP3 to find out.

 

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

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[Julian, G4ILO]

Gary W. Hvizdak wrote

Even after the recent news reports about problems with it, I just made the
stupid mistake of installing Microsoft's XP Service Pack 3 on my Dell
Dimension 9100 with ATI Radeon display adaptor.  Afterwards my 20" flat
panel monitor (which supports 1600 x 1200 DPI resolution at 32 bit color
depth) was reduced to 648 x 480 @ 16 colors.  I was able to increase this
all the way to 800 x 600 @ 16 colors!

 

Three hours later I'm now back on SP2.

 

I have submitted a report to Microsoft about this.

Even with Microsoft's vast resources they can't release bug free updates. Worth thinking about the next time a K3 software update breaks something...

We're all beta testers now.

[Bill Johnson-9]

I found my SP3 removed bugs that plagued me before the release.  This
replaces building our own and trying to fix it.  :-)

72,

Bill

K9YEQ
K2 #35, K2 # 5279, KX1 #35, Mini Modules, etc.  


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>
> Even after the recent news reports about problems with it, I just made the
...
>
> Three hours later I'm now back on SP2.
>
> I have submitted a report to Microsoft about this.
>
Even with Microsoft's vast resources they can't release bug free updates.
Worth thinking about the next time a K3 software update breaks something...
-----
Julian, G4ILO  K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392

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[S Sacco]

This is not a particularly good comparison.  Windows is enormously
more complicated than the firmware used to drive the K3, and in
addition, it has to support an almost unlimited combination of
hardware.

I consider it practically a miracle that Windows works as well as it
does, but the complexity has not been lost on many video game
publishers, who have retreated to the more static game consoles.

73,

Steve NN4X


> Even with Microsoft's vast resources they can't release bug free updates.
> Worth thinking about the next time a K3 software update breaks something...
> -----
> Julian, G4ILO  K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392
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[N4LQ-2]

Microsoft introduced SP3 in order to kill XP and make it easier for
corporate Americal to recommend the change to VISTA.
Steve Ellington
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----- Original Message -----
From: "S Sacco" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Windows XP SP3 :<(

> This is not a particularly good comparison.  Windows is enormously
> more complicated than the firmware used to drive the K3, and in
> addition, it has to support an almost unlimited combination of
> hardware.
>
> I consider it practically a miracle that Windows works as well as it
> does, but the complexity has not been lost on many video game
> publishers, who have retreated to the more static game consoles.
>
> 73,
>
> Steve NN4X
>
>
>> Even with Microsoft's vast resources they can't release bug free updates.
>> Worth thinking about the next time a K3 software update breaks
>> something...
>> -----
>> Julian, G4ILO  K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392
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[Paul-285]

S Sacco wrote:
>This is not a particularly good comparison.  Windows is enormously
>more complicated than the firmware used to drive the K3, and in
>addition, it has to support an almost unlimited combination of
>hardware.
>
>I consider it practically a miracle that Windows works as well as it
>does, but the complexity has not been lost on many video game
>publishers, who have retreated to the more static game consoles.

Of course, you could always update Windows to ubuntu.

Paul N4LCD

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[Philip Leonard WVØT]

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> Of course, you could always update Windows to ubuntu.

Or Gentoo.... ;-)
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[dave.wilburn]

This is not unusual for service packs.  In the past, I just updated
the drivers for the video card / display and it restores all to its
former glory.  Not that I am a big proponent of M$, as this is written
from a Ubuntu Linux Box.


Dave Wilburn
K4DGW
K2/100 - S/N 5982
K3/100 - S/N 766

"For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will
never know."


Gary Hvizdak wrote:

> Even after the recent news reports about problems with it, I just made the
> stupid mistake of installing Microsoft's XP Service Pack 3 on my Dell
> Dimension 9100 with ATI Radeon display adaptor.  Afterwards my 20" flat
> panel monitor (which supports 1600 x 1200 DPI resolution at 32 bit color
> depth) was reduced to 648 x 480 @ 16 colors.  I was able to increase this
> all the way to 800 x 600 @ 16 colors!
>
>  
>
> Three hours later I'm now back on SP2.
>
>  
>
> I have submitted a report to Microsoft about this.
>
>  
>
> The problem may be due to my having rotated my display to portrait
> orientation during the installation of SP3, but I'm not about try
> reinstalling SP3 to find out.
>
>  
>
> YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
>
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[Phil Kane-2]

On 5/14/2008 8:03 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

>> I consider it practically a miracle that Windows works as well as it
>> does, but the complexity has not been lost on many video game
>> publishers, who have retreated to the more static game consoles.
>
> Of course, you could always update Windows to ubuntu.

If and when the four major programs that I depend on daily
(WordPerfect, Thunderbird, Firefox and Folio Bound VIEWS - my
communications law legal research database engine -  come out with 100%
Linux native versions (WINE won't handle the database program and I
didn't try it on the others) I will consider going back to Linux (I ran
Red Hat for a while).

Heck, before I went to Windows I ran IBM's OS/2 and its derivative
eComStation - which ran DOS and Win3 programs as well as native OS/2
programs - for many years until Folio dropped the 16-bit (Win3) support
and more and more applications required "real" 32-bit support.

My ham stuff runs in a separate machine (running Win 2000 at present) so
I can play with that without messing up my "main" machine.

I've ranted about this for years, so I'll get down from my soapbox and
behave.....

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73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

VP - General Counsel & Engineering Manager
CSI Telecommunications, Inc. - Consulting Engineers
San Francisco, CA - Beaverton, OR
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[Dave KQ3T]

Well, Phil, at least you're halfway there... both Thunderbird and
Firefox come in native Linux versions.

73,
Dave KQ3T


Phil Kane wrote:
> If and when the four major programs that I depend on daily
> (WordPerfect, Thunderbird, Firefox and Folio Bound VIEWS - my
> communications law legal research database engine -  come out with
> 100% Linux native versions (WINE won't handle the database program and
> I didn't try it on the others) I will consider going back to Linux (I
> ran Red Hat for a while).
>

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[Phil Kane-2]

On 5/15/2008 2:10 PM, Dave KQ3T wrote:

>> If and when the four major programs that I depend on daily
>> (WordPerfect, Thunderbird, Firefox and Folio Bound VIEWS - my
>> communications law legal research database engine -  come out with
>> 100% Linux native versions (WINE won't handle the database program
>> and I didn't try it on the others) I will consider going back to
>> Linux (I ran Red Hat for a while).

> Well, Phil, at least you're halfway there... both Thunderbird and
> Firefox come in native Linux versions.

Actually, three quarters - somewhere around here I have a Linux
WordPerfect disk set that I got years ago when I was playing with
RedHat.  Is ubuntu that much better?

Fortunately, I built my main computer with slide-out hard disk trays, so
it's a no-brainer to put a new set in and try different OS-es.  I may do
that one of these days when I can discover a 40-hour day....these
32-hour days are just not long enough!  <g>

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 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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