[OT] contest ranking - is this a scam?

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I recently received an email from "World Amateur Radio Contesting
Association" informing me that my world ranking [in contests] had just
increased 500 or so places. This sure sounds like a scam to me, but
thought I'd check around before trashing it. Anyone know anything about
this one? Thanks

...robert
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[ab2tc]

Hi Robert and all,

All I know about it is that I got one like that, too, and fairly quickly
deleted it. It may not be an outright scam, but it certainly didn't interest
me (I am a casual contester participating most years in the major and some
not so major contests). I am also not sure if an *increase* in ranking means
a move toward the top or the bottom.

AB2TC - Knut

PS. Google does not recognize "World Amateur Radio Contesting
Association".


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> I recently received an email from "World Amateur Radio Contesting
> Association" informing me that my world ranking [in contests] had just
> increased 500 or so places. This sure sounds like a scam to me, but
> thought I'd check around before trashing it. Anyone know anything about
> this one? Thanks
>
> ...robert
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> Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY

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[Ian, NV4C]

All,

I received the same email several weeks ago. I followed up by Googling
the organization and checking out their web site (using a Linux system I
didn't care if I had to nuke when done). They are a fairly new group,
established within the last year(if I remember correctly). I don't know
that they're a scam, but they really need to do something to build up
their cred if they want to be accepted by the global ham community.

73 de,

Ian, NV4C

On 8/14/20 3:51 PM, Robert G Strickland via Elecraft wrote:
> I recently received an email from "World Amateur Radio Contesting
> Association" informing me that my world ranking [in contests] had just
> increased 500 or so places. This sure sounds like a scam to me, but
> thought I'd check around before trashing it. Anyone know anything
> about this one? Thanks
>
> ...robert
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[Alex Malyava]

it is kinda legit :)
go to https://www.warca.org/
this project was started by Gene W3UA and company, check their "About Us"
section.

what they do - they try to maintain more or less leveled ratings for
contest ops.... not only by score, but also by power level and location.
something like if somebody took first place in CQWW from Maine and another
guy took second place from PA - his rating will be adjusted for PA location
and he might get a higher rating, because he was doing much better from PA
then somebody half-way closer to Europe...

Alex K2BB, #4968 in that list :)

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 4:19 PM ab2tc <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Robert and all,
>
> All I know about it is that I got one like that, too, and fairly quickly
> deleted it. It may not be an outright scam, but it certainly didn't
> interest
> me (I am a casual contester participating most years in the major and some
> not so major contests). I am also not sure if an *increase* in ranking
> means
> a move toward the top or the bottom.
>
> AB2TC - Knut
>
> PS. Google does not recognize "World Amateur Radio Contesting
> Association".
>
>
> Elecraft mailing list wrote
> > I recently received an email from "World Amateur Radio Contesting
> > Association" informing me that my world ranking [in contests] had just
> > increased 500 or so places. This sure sounds like a scam to me, but
> > thought I'd check around before trashing it. Anyone know anything about
> > this one? Thanks
> >
> > ...robert
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> > Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY
>
> > rcrgs@.net
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[Nate Bargmann]

It seems to me to only be a scam if the email is trying to sell
something beyond reason, probing for bank/credit card account numbers,
or seeking personal information unrelated to amateur radio.  Whether it
is of interest to the recipient or not does not automatically make
something a scam.

I'd not heard of the group before.  I think I'll check them out.
Thanks!

73, Nate, N0NB

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[jack frake]

From what I'm hearing from my contest buddies, it IS legit...

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 6:22 PM Nate Bargmann <[hidden email]> wrote:

> It seems to me to only be a scam if the email is trying to sell
> something beyond reason, probing for bank/credit card account numbers,
> or seeking personal information unrelated to amateur radio.  Whether it
> is of interest to the recipient or not does not automatically make
> something a scam.
>
> I'd not heard of the group before.  I think I'll check them out.
> Thanks!
>
> 73, Nate, N0NB
>
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[Nate Bargmann]

* On 2020 14 Aug 19:36 -0500, jack frake wrote:
> From what I'm hearing from my contest buddies, it IS legit...

Looking through the site I agree.  It's quite a project and undertaking.
I did not delve deeply into the details but if I understand their goal
it is to separate the operator skill from geographic location and rank
operators accordingly.  They're also weighting various events based on
certain criteria.

I'm not in the list as I've not operated any of the qualifying events
for the past several years, not that I'd be very far from the bottom
anyway!

73, Nate, N0NB

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[Rose]

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 20:46 Nate Bargmann <[hidden email]> wrote:

> * On 2020 14 Aug 19:36 -0500, jack frake wrote:
> > From what I'm hearing from my contest buddies, it IS legit...
>
> Looking through the site I agree.  It's quite a project and undertaking.
> I did not delve deeply into the details but if I understand their goal
> it is to separate the operator skill from geographic location and rank
> operators accordingly.  They're also weighting various events based on
> certain criteria.
>
> I'm not in the list as I've not operated any of the qualifying events
> for the past several years, not that I'd be very far from the bottom
> anyway!
>
> 73, Nate, N0NB
>
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