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Cloud Runner-3
metallic mercury rolled around in your hand is not absorbed through the skin.  I don't know, not about to try it, but I think it would just come out the other end if you ate it.

You know, "they" banned lead from paints.  But the binder for latex paints is mercury.

They have banned mercurial thermometers, course that's metallic mercury and won't be absorbed, BUT, there is mercury in flu shots, children's vaccines, latex paint, and amalgam tooth fillings.

go figure!

Where is mercury found?  In rocks.  (Specifically bauxite).  so technically, it is a land fill to begin with.

72,

Fred - kt5x
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Re: OT mercury

Ken Kopp
My Lady and I are hosts/docents at a lighthouse on the Oregon
coast and I've "been to sea" for a few years.  This has created an
awareness of lighthouse-related things and one of these is the
legend that keepers sometimes went insane "from the isolation
and loneliness of lighthouse duty".  It's now generally attributed
to handling the mercury used ... in large quantities ... as a lubricant
in some light rotation mechanisms.

The same applies to the "mad as a hatter" phrase.  They used
mercury in the hat manufacturing process.

WAY off topic ... sorry.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: OT mercury

Joe-aa4nn
Not insane maybe, but 30 years tending a lighthouse, the light
and  intermittent fog horn never bothered the old man keeper,
until early one morning the fog horn failed to sound off... the old
man woke up with a start and wondered "What was that?"
de Joe, aa4nn

> awareness of lighthouse-related things and one of these is the
> legend that keepers sometimes went insane "from the isolation
> and loneliness of lighthouse duty".  It's now generally attributed
> to handling the mercury used ... in large quantities ... as a lubricant
> in some light rotation mechanisms.
>

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Re: OT mercury

Rod Ai7NN
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Fred, et.al.

I'll suggest this: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_poisoning>
for a starter discusion of the ill effects of mercury upon.
--
73 Rod, Ai7NN

On 4/15/07, Trail Fox <[hidden email]> wrote:
> metallic mercury rolled around in your hand is not absorbed through the skin.  I don't know, not about to try it, but I think it would just come out the other end if you ate it.
>
> You know, "they" banned lead from paints.  But the binder for latex paints is mercury.
>
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RE: OT mercury

Ken Alexander-2
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A few records need to be set straight here:

> > From: [hidden email]> To:
> [hidden email]; [hidden email]>
> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 09:13:12 -0600> CC: >
> Subject: [Elecraft] OT mercury> > metallic mercury
> rolled around in your hand is not absorbed through
> the skin.

The Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) on mercury says
"Skin absorption is a significant route of potential
over-exposure to Mercury..."  It's not the principle
route of entry.  Inhalation of mercury vapour, which
is given off at room temperature, is the principle
means.

> I don't know, not about to try it, but I
> think it would just come out the other end if you
> ate it.

Oral ingestion (according to the MSDS) is said not to
be a significant route of occupational over-exposure,
but if ingested it does cause severe gastro-intestinal
damage as well as kidney damage.  Glad you're not
going to try eating any.

> Where is mercury found? In rocks. (Specifically
> bauxite).

Bauxite is the principle ore of Aluminum.  If there's
any Mercury in Bauxite it's there in trace amounts as
an impurity.  Cinnabar is the principle ore of
Mercury.  Cinnabar's a mineral, Mercury Sulphide.

73 - Ken
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Re: OT mercury

Bill Coleman-2
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On Apr 15, 2007, at 11:13 AM, Trail Fox wrote:

> metallic mercury rolled around in your hand is not absorbed through  
> the skin.  I don't know, not about to try it, but I think it would  
> just come out the other end if you ate it.

The ingress for Mercury is from inhaled vapors.

Biggest problem with spilled mercury is that it is nearly impossible  
to clean up, and will continue to evaporate and expose people to its  
poisonous vapors.

> They have banned mercurial thermometers, course that's metallic  
> mercury and won't be absorbed, BUT, there is mercury in flu shots,  
> children's vaccines, latex paint, and amalgam tooth fillings.

Mercury in these uses isn't likely to evaporate and be inhaled.


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OT: mercury

waltk8cv4612amos
There was an article in the paper about CFL lamps ( those twisty energy
saving bulbs ) and they are supposedly dangerous. Drop one and it's, open
the window and shut the doors on the room, call the EPA!

http://www.epa.gov/mercury/spills/

I have the things all over the house and didn't even realize the danger.

Walt K8CV Royal Oak, MI.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Coleman" <[hidden email]>
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Cc: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT mercury


>
> On Apr 15, 2007, at 11:13 AM, Trail Fox wrote:
>
>> metallic mercury rolled around in your hand is not absorbed through  the
>> skin.  I don't know, not about to try it, but I think it would  just come
>> out the other end if you ate it.
>
> The ingress for Mercury is from inhaled vapors.
>
> Biggest problem with spilled mercury is that it is nearly impossible  to
> clean up, and will continue to evaporate and expose people to its
> poisonous vapors.
>
>> They have banned mercurial thermometers, course that's metallic  mercury
>> and won't be absorbed, BUT, there is mercury in flu shots,  children's
>> vaccines, latex paint, and amalgam tooth fillings.
>
> Mercury in these uses isn't likely to evaporate and be inhaled.
>
>
> Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL        Mail: [hidden email]
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>             -- Wilbur Wright, 1901
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Re: OT: mercury

Thom LaCosta
On Thu, 17 May 2007 [hidden email] wrote:

> There was an article in the paper about CFL lamps ( those twisty energy
> saving bulbs ) and they are supposedly dangerous. Drop one and it's, open the
> window and shut the doors on the room, call the EPA!
>
> http://www.epa.gov/mercury/spills/
>
> I have the things all over the house and didn't even realize the danger.

Best learn how to deocontaminate the place before it happens...and don't call
any gubmint agencies if you break one.  THey will simply force you to engage the
services of the certified folks who come in moon suits and not only remove the
mercury, but also a significant part of your income.

Wonder when the anti-CFL lobby will pass a law making the manufacturers of those
devices liable for the damage?

Thom

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Re: OT: mercury

Jim AB3CV
I seldom break any bulb, in fact I can't remember the last time I did. I
can't see why I would break a CFL any more frequently.

My main objection to the several I have installed in my house is that they
take several minutes to come up to full output. Not terribly useful in a
passageway.

I've got several installed in the basement in place of the 100W bulbs I was
using there to get sufficient light. Typical weenie builder only put one
lighting circuit in the basement and also sourced the sump pump from it.
Needless to say the breaker pops at the most inconvenient time leaving me
stumbling around in the pitchblackness. The improved efficiency of the CFLs
now gives me the needed light without rewiring the basement and without
popping the breaker.

Of course the same building codes that allow this sort of corner-cutting
wiring also require a licensed electrician to do more than change a
lightbulb in Baltimore county. Talk about a racket...

jim (looking forward to led lights at affordable prices...)
ab3cv


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RE: OT: mercury

Brett gazdzinski-2
Different brands work better then others.
Some can pulse, some have to warm up, some don't
work in the cold.

The ones that home depot sells seem good, you can get spotlights,
3 way bulbs, little versions, yellow bug lamps, etc.

Save your receipts, some blow out in short order, but if they
work for 10 minutes, they usually last years.

The last few years I have gone big-time into LED xmass lights.
You can run thousands of those things all December for about
45 cents!


Brett


 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jim Miller
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:59 AM
> To: Thom LaCosta; [hidden email]
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: mercury
>
> I seldom break any bulb, in fact I can't remember the last
> time I did. I
> can't see why I would break a CFL any more frequently.
>
> My main objection to the several I have installed in my house
> is that they
> take several minutes to come up to full output. Not terribly
> useful in a
> passageway.
>
> I've got several installed in the basement in place of the
> 100W bulbs I was
> using there to get sufficient light. Typical weenie builder
> only put one
> lighting circuit in the basement and also sourced the sump
> pump from it.
> Needless to say the breaker pops at the most inconvenient
> time leaving me
> stumbling around in the pitchblackness. The improved
> efficiency of the CFLs
> now gives me the needed light without rewiring the basement
> and without
> popping the breaker.
>
> Of course the same building codes that allow this sort of
> corner-cutting
> wiring also require a licensed electrician to do more than change a
> lightbulb in Baltimore county. Talk about a racket...
>
> jim (looking forward to led lights at affordable prices...)
> ab3cv
>
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Re: OT: mercury

Gary D Krause
I just looked at them recently and noticed that some come with mercury and
some don't.  It seems the more expensive lights do not have mercury in them.
 It just seems like anything that is healthy for you always costs more.

Gary, N7HTS


On Thu, 17 May 2007 10:06:44 -0400
  Brett gazdzinski <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Different brands work better then others.
> Some can pulse, some have to warm up, some don't
> work in the cold.
>
> The ones that home depot sells seem good, you can get spotlights,
> 3 way bulbs, little versions, yellow bug lamps, etc.
>
> Save your receipts, some blow out in short order, but if they
> work for 10 minutes, they usually last years.
>
> The last few years I have gone big-time into LED xmass lights.
> You can run thousands of those things all December for about
> 45 cents!
>
>
> Brett
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jim Miller
>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:59 AM
>> To: Thom LaCosta; [hidden email]
>> Cc: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: mercury
>>
>> I seldom break any bulb, in fact I can't remember the last
>> time I did. I
>> can't see why I would break a CFL any more frequently.
>>
>> My main objection to the several I have installed in my house
>> is that they
>> take several minutes to come up to full output. Not terribly
>> useful in a
>> passageway.
>>
>> I've got several installed in the basement in place of the
>> 100W bulbs I was
>> using there to get sufficient light. Typical weenie builder
>> only put one
>> lighting circuit in the basement and also sourced the sump
>> pump from it.
>> Needless to say the breaker pops at the most inconvenient
>> time leaving me
>> stumbling around in the pitchblackness. The improved
>> efficiency of the CFLs
>> now gives me the needed light without rewiring the basement
>> and without
>> popping the breaker.
>>
>> Of course the same building codes that allow this sort of
>> corner-cutting
>> wiring also require a licensed electrician to do more than change a
>> lightbulb in Baltimore county. Talk about a racket...
>>
>> jim (looking forward to led lights at affordable prices...)
>> ab3cv
>>
>>
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Re: OT: mercury

Fred (FL)
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No need to worry much longer about "breaking" the
small flourescent bulbs, so popular now in Australia
and WMart - there are about to be eclipsed by the
new LOW WATTAGE LED BULBS.   The LED technolgoy is
already in use on sailboat mastheads, 18-wheeler
tail\lights, and most updated red/green/yellow
traffic lights.  For home use  - something like 4
watts, last forever.

Fred, FL


       
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Re: OT: mercury

Jim Campbell-8
Fred,

The LED traffic lights in FL must work better than the ones in my town.  
The LEDs appear to burn out in patches.  Looks like a leaf that a bug
has been dining on.  On the positive side, the manufacturers will
certainly get their act together in time.

72,

Jim - W4BQP
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ARES EC, Spartanburg Co., SC

Fred (FL) wrote:

> No need to worry much longer about "breaking" the
> small flourescent bulbs, so popular now in Australia
> and WMart - there are about to be eclipsed by the
> new LOW WATTAGE LED BULBS.   The LED technolgoy is
> already in use on sailboat mastheads, 18-wheeler
> tail\lights, and most updated red/green/yellow
> traffic lights.  For home use  - something like 4
> watts, last forever.
>
> Fred, FL
>  
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