Off Topic: Manhattan Style Construction

Sorry for the off topic question, but I am looking for information on tips and tricks to Manhattan Style Construction.  There was a great article published on the net several years ago, but it seems to have disappeared.  Anyone have information or where I can get information about this style of construction?

Lee Buller - K0WA



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[David Cutter]

Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but, I've tried using wood drills (the ones with the point which only cut on the outside edge, good for thin sheet metal, too) to make copper lands on a plain board.  I think they are also known as torpedo drills.  I've seen kits made up of lots of little squares or circles of pcb material that you stick onto your main copper clad board.  That's a little more messy, but works.  I prefer the drill method, it also starts a hole for your component wire.  

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> From: Lee Buller <[hidden email]>
> Date: 2007/07/26 Thu PM 02:29:44 BST
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> Sorry for the off topic question, but I am looking for information on tips and tricks to Manhattan Style Construction.  There was a great article published on the net several years ago, but it seems to have disappeared.  Anyone have information or where I can get information about this style of construction?
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> Lee Buller - K0WA
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[Jack Smith-6]

Lee:

I have some information on my web page at www.cliftonlaboratories.com.  
Look for the link to prototyping, or go directly there at
http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/Prototyping.htm.

I've recently shifted to a diamond core drill and cutting island pads as
the normal Manhattan-style construction was getting a bit irksome due to
pad lifting after soldering the same pad several times in the process of
making changes.  My web page shows both the conventional Manhattan-style
glued pads, as well as the diamond core drill approach. Also has some
references.

Jack K8ZOA
www.cliftonlaboratories.com



Lee Buller wrote:

> Sorry for the off topic question, but I am looking for information on tips and tricks to Manhattan Style Construction.  There was a great article published on the net several years ago, but it seems to have disappeared.  Anyone have information or where I can get information about this style of construction?
>
> Lee Buller - K0WA
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[Ken Kopp]

Check sheet-metal drills at a machine tool supply house..
Their points specifically produce the circles you want.  The
tip and the OUTER edge of the cutting face contact the metal
at the same time.

I can send you a photo of one if you need.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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[Jozef Hand-Boniakowski]

Here's what I do  I use double sided PC board material.  I design the
Manhattan style PC board I want on paper with the islands or buildings
(squares and rectangles for pads) clearly defined making sure that the
spacing between the components I am going to solder is correct.  I then
use good quality tin snips or hacksaw and cut out the islands or
buildings from more double sided PC board material.  I transfer the
pattern from paper to a PC board so I know where the pads will go.  I
then use Krazy Glue to glue the pads down with one or two very small
drops.  I then solder the parts from pad to pad or pads to the ground plane.

Jozef WB2MIC


Ken Kopp wrote:

> Check sheet-metal drills at a machine tool supply house..
> Their points specifically produce the circles you want.  The tip and
> the OUTER edge of the cutting face contact the metal at the same time.
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> I can send you a photo of one if you need.
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> 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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[Christopher Kovacs]

There is an excellent article about Manhattan Building Techniques.  K7QO
uses an inexpensive hole punch to create the pads.  I have tried this
technique, and it really is easy and if carefully done, a real work of art.

See:
                 www.zianet.com/dhassall/advmanart.pdf


Chris,  w0anm
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[n6wg]

Hi Lee

Well, there are several ways to do Manhattan construction.
You can use a punch to make circular pads, or you can use
a nibbling tool to get small rectangular pads.  I glue mine
down to a surface with Crazy glue.

Components can be mounted vertically or horizontally,
depending on what you are doing.  With vertical mounting,
one lead is very short, soldered directly to its pad.  The other
lead then is bent over and comes down to the other pad.
This works well with resistors, diodes, small molded chokes,
etc.  For disc caps or other components with the leads coming
out of the same side, standing the component up with both
leads out the bottom seems to be best.  Due to layout needs,
sometimes one component will be horizontal, and another
will be vertical, straddling the horizontal part.

Ground connections can be soldered directly to the conductive
substrate, whatever you use.

I have mostly built preamps using Manhattan style building.
I like to build each stage on its own small substrate of PC
material.  I can easily test them before installing them in
an Altoids can.  Great little project boxes :-)  I have
one preamp of three stages, each with its own substrate,
with the substrates soldered to the Altoids can for a
secure ground.

Hope this gives you a few ideas, Lee.  We haven't covered
all of it here, but this should give you some starting ideas.

Good luck and 73
Bob N6WG
The Little Station with Attitude
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> Sorry for the off topic question, but I am looking for information on tips
and tricks to Manhattan Style Construction.  There was a great article
published on the net several years ago, but it seems to have disappeared.
Anyone have information or where I can get information about this style of
construction?
>
> Lee Buller - K0WA
>
>
>
> In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you
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[AJSOENKE]

This was a very popular method of breadboarding  about 20-30 years ago. There
was a company the sold the special Bits for cutting  the lands (pads) with
holes in them. different sizes, but all round. By Correct  positioning you could
create rows of holes with lands and then xacto knife and  peel back stripps
for buss isolation strips etc. I still have the bits I bought  because they are
very helpful for doing microstrip work on microwave amps etc.  But, I cannot
find a brand name or any info at this moment. I know if you can  find some 30
yr old popular electronic or nuts and volts you will see the ads.  I'll try to
dig into archive this week and see if there are any around  here.

Al WA6VNN  




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[David Cutter]

Copper Island was a manufacturer over here.

David
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> This was a very popular method of breadboarding  about 20-30 years ago. There
> was a company the sold the special Bits for cutting  the lands (pads) with
> holes in them. different sizes, but all round. By Correct  positioning you could
> create rows of holes with lands and then xacto knife and  peel back stripps
> for buss isolation strips etc. I still have the bits I bought  because they are
> very helpful for doing microstrip work on microwave amps etc.  But, I cannot
> find a brand name or any info at this moment. I know if you can  find some 30
> yr old popular electronic or nuts and volts you will see the ads.  I'll try to
> dig into archive this week and see if there are any around  here.
>
> Al WA6VNN  
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