Other Radio lists thoughts.
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Speaking of the Sherwood RX list, someone mentioned producing additional lists…here is some food for discussion….. possibly not on this list.
List 1) Radio Receiver (RX) …..already exists. List 2) Radio Transmitter (TX)…..already suggested. List 3) Radio Ergonomics (RE) - a list of what is desirable or which knobs/ buttons used the most or are most important. Listed by different classes such as Contest radio, CW, SSB, Weak signal….etc. List 4) Radio Usability (RU) - how many mouse-clicks or button-pushes is takes to enable a wanted function, Macros OFF……etc. Probably, combine #3,4. Just throwing this out for rumination. :) Tom, W4TMW ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I'd *love* to see a structured look at radio UI. My girlfriend just got an
IC-7300, and I couldn't help but notice that my KX3, a "portable" radio, had more physical controls, more of which were explicitly labeled. On the -7300, I have to guess which of four buttons a given setting is behind. I'm learning the pattern, but it feels a lot more fiddly than just scanning below the display for the right button and knob and pressing and turning it. On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 8:15 PM Thomas Warren <[hidden email]> wrote: > Speaking of the Sherwood RX list, someone mentioned producing additional > lists…here is some food for discussion….. possibly not on this list. > > List 1) Radio Receiver (RX) …..already exists. > > List 2) Radio Transmitter (TX)…..already suggested. > > List 3) Radio Ergonomics (RE) - a list of what is desirable or which > knobs/ buttons used the most or are most > important. Listed by different classes such as Contest radio, CW, > SSB, Weak signal….etc. > > List 4) Radio Usability (RU) - how many mouse-clicks or button-pushes is > takes to enable a wanted function, Macros OFF……etc. > > Probably, combine #3,4. > > Just throwing this out for rumination. :) > > > Tom, W4TMW > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Sounds unwieldily to me. > On June 8, 2021 8:14 PM Thomas Warren <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Speaking of the Sherwood RX list, someone mentioned producing additional lists…here is some food for discussion….. possibly not on this list. > > List 1) Radio Receiver (RX) …..already exists. > > List 2) Radio Transmitter (TX)…..already suggested. > > List 3) Radio Ergonomics (RE) - a list of what is desirable or which knobs/ buttons used the most or are most > important. Listed by different classes such as Contest radio, CW, SSB, Weak signal….etc. > > List 4) Radio Usability (RU) - how many mouse-clicks or button-pushes is takes to enable a wanted function, Macros OFF……etc. > > Probably, combine #3,4. > > Just throwing this out for rumination. :) > > > Tom, W4TMW > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: Other Radio lists thoughts.
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In the biz I was in, and the FDA, call this usability and human factors.
On Tuesday, June 8, 2021, 6:50:29 PM MDT, w2xj <[hidden email]> wrote: Sounds unwieldily to me. > On June 8, 2021 8:14 PM Thomas Warren <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Speaking of the Sherwood RX list, someone mentioned producing additional lists…here is some food for discussion….. possibly not on this list. > > List 1) Radio Receiver (RX) …..already exists. > > List 2) Radio Transmitter (TX)…..already suggested. > > List 3) Radio Ergonomics (RE) - a list of what is desirable or which knobs/ buttons used the most or are most > important. Listed by different classes such as Contest radio, CW, SSB, Weak signal….etc. > > List 4) Radio Usability (RU) - how many mouse-clicks or button-pushes is takes to enable a wanted function, Macros OFF……etc. > > Probably, combine #3,4. > > Just throwing this out for rumination. :) > > > Tom, W4TMW > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I dunno, this seems like it's worth trying. I think there are roughly these
steps: 1. Identify the radios we care about. Icom, Kenwood, Yaesu, Elecraft, and FlexRadio's current HF offerings, plus the cult favorite Xiegu G90, seem like a good place to start. 2. Identify the controls we care about. I could throw together a quick list based on what I use and what radios commonly feature as front panel controls, and solicit additions from the list. 3. Identify the operator classes we care about. I think rag-chewing / contesting / weak-signal are good classes, plus CW / SSB / digital; I'd be open to hearing other additions. 4. Trawl through the manuals for the radios and note how each relevant control is accessed. This is tedious, but the kind of thing I would find oddly enjoyable. 5. Estimate or observe how frequently and/or urgently each operator class uses each control. We could throw together a quick estimate, and could later refine it by surveying or observing folks who inhabit those classes. 6. Do the math on what we get from steps 4 and 5 to generate some scores. Anyone interested in contributing to step 5? Cheers, Julie On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 8:34 PM Bill Rowlett <[hidden email]> wrote: > Sounds good, when are you going to start the list? > > Bill KC4IM > > > On Jun 8, 2021, at 8:14 PM, Thomas Warren <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > Speaking of the Sherwood RX list, someone mentioned producing additional > lists…here is some food for discussion….. possibly not on this list. > > > > List 1) Radio Receiver (RX) …..already exists. > > > > List 2) Radio Transmitter (TX)…..already suggested. > > > > List 3) Radio Ergonomics (RE) - a list of what is desirable or which > knobs/ buttons used the most or are most > > important. Listed by different classes such as Contest radio, CW, > SSB, Weak signal….etc. > > > > List 4) Radio Usability (RU) - how many mouse-clicks or button-pushes is > takes to enable a wanted function, Macros OFF……etc. > > > > Probably, combine #3,4. > > > > Just throwing this out for rumination. :) > > > > > > Tom, W4TMW > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Felecraft&data=04%7C01%7C%7C96b4c9ccd0cd45d26a4808d92adb97cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637587944889297412%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=HxsHqXMv1EVTuAFAR9phyqQdPfEf3XfMM1AjABBaw4w%3D&reserved=0 > > Help: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmmfaq.htm&data=04%7C01%7C%7C96b4c9ccd0cd45d26a4808d92adb97cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637587944889297412%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=28aX3O5yKcz3eXy0l8ylViNpTK7IR4U6yCEzcac8dxI%3D&reserved=0 > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qsl.net%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C96b4c9ccd0cd45d26a4808d92adb97cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637587944889297412%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=gd%2F2Uq5NZZ3vnW0dC5kk7P5tSBF3TfO80SMwgOogNrU%3D&reserved=0 > > Please help support this email list: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qsl.net%2Fdonate.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7C96b4c9ccd0cd45d26a4808d92adb97cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637587944889297412%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=3SlMx80kbtyQKYFOksfKtj%2FrrmbHz02ERvtGQBkp92I%3D&reserved=0 > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I did, it's the KX3.
On Wed, Jun 9, 2021, 08:16 Bill Steffey NY9H <[hidden email]> wrote: > GET A LIFE , PICK A RADIO TURN IT ON AND GO PLAY RADIO..... > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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It was still super rude. If you don't care how folks pick a rig, skip the
thread and move on. On Wed, Jun 9, 2021, 10:52 Bill Steffey NY9H <[hidden email]> wrote: > sorry that was for the world not you .... > > > bill > On 6/9/2021 10:47 AM, Julia Tuttle wrote: > > I did, it's the KX3. > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2021, 08:16 Bill Steffey NY9H <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> GET A LIFE , PICK A RADIO TURN IT ON AND GO PLAY RADIO..... >> > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Yeah, I'm not a fan either.
On Wed, Jun 9, 2021, 11:52 Richard Isaacs <[hidden email]> wrote: > This sounds more like Channel 19 and CB than Ham Radio. > > W3RKI > > > On Jun 9, 2021, at 10:47 AM, Julia Tuttle <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > I did, it's the KX3. > > > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2021, 08:16 Bill Steffey NY9H <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > >> GET A LIFE , PICK A RADIO TURN IT ON AND GO PLAY RADIO..... > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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