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Harry_Yingst

P3 Beta software Bug?

I am new to having a P3 (with SVGA).

I loaded the new beta and now there is a red background while in data mode
Is that the Transmit cursor (I do not recall seeing it before)?

I noticed on the VGA monitor the Red will go from Low intensity Red to High
intensity Red when you change the Waterfall Colors form Default to Grey scale.

Rick WA6NHC

Re: P3 Beta software Bug?

Mine too. Not in CW mode but in data mode. Didn't check SSB.

73,
Rick wa6nhc

Tiny iPhone 5 keypad, typos are inevitable

> On Apr 25, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Harry_Yingst via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I am new to having a P3 (with SVGA).
>
> I loaded the new beta and now there is a red background while in data mode
> Is that the Transmit cursor (I do not recall seeing it before)?
>
>
> I noticed on the VGA monitor the Red will go from Low intensity Red to High
> intensity Red when you change the Waterfall Colors form Default to Grey
> scale.
>
>
>
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Alan Bloom

Re: P3 Beta software Bug?

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One change in the beta firmware is to make the width of the transmit
cursor in "Data A" mode equal to 2.7 kHz. The reason is that in Data A
mode there is no way for the firmware to know what the actual bandwidth
is - it can be whatever is coming out the PC's sound card. So rather
than assume narrow-FSK as in the old firmware, the new firmware makes
the cursor width equal to the SSB bandwidth.

Alan N1AL

On 04/25/2014 05:37 PM, Harry_Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

> I am new to having a P3 (with SVGA).
>
> I loaded the new beta and now there is a red background while in data mode
> Is that the Transmit cursor (I do not recall seeing it before)?
>
>
> I noticed on the VGA monitor the Red will go from Low intensity Red to High
> intensity Red when you change the Waterfall Colors form Default to Grey
> scale.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: P3 Beta software Bug?

The question on weather or not it is a bug is the change in intensity of the Red on the
External monitor when going from default to Grey scale (I may have not made that clear).

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Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Beta software Bug?

One change in the beta firmware is to make the width of the transmit
cursor in "Data A" mode equal to 2.7 kHz. The reason is that in Data A
mode there is no way for the firmware to know what the actual bandwidth
is - it can be whatever is coming out the PC's sound card. So rather
than assume narrow-FSK as in the old firmware, the new firmware makes
the cursor width equal to the SSB bandwidth.

Alan N1AL

On 04/25/2014 05:37 PM, Harry_Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

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Mike K2MK

Re: P3 Beta software Bug?

In reply to this post by Alan Bloom

Hi Alan,

I think you should go a bit deeper and read the data sub mode and the DSP bandwidth and have the transmit cursor agree more closely to how the operator is listening to signals. When I'm operating split in RTTY the last thing I want to see is a 2.7KHz wide red cursor cluttering up the screen. If you can't do this then there could be a menu option to adjust the red cursor width.

73,
Mike K2MK

Alan Bloom wrote

One change in the beta firmware is to make the width of the transmit
cursor in "Data A" mode equal to 2.7 kHz. The reason is that in Data A
mode there is no way for the firmware to know what the actual bandwidth
is - it can be whatever is coming out the PC's sound card. So rather
than assume narrow-FSK as in the old firmware, the new firmware makes
the cursor width equal to the SSB bandwidth.

Alan N1AL

On 04/25/2014 05:37 PM, Harry_Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> I am new to having a P3 (with SVGA).
>
> I loaded the new beta and now there is a red background while in data mode
> Is that the Transmit cursor (I do not recall seeing it before)?
>
>
> I noticed on the VGA monitor the Red will go from Low intensity Red to High
> intensity Red when you change the Waterfall Colors form Default to Grey
> scale.
>

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: P3 Beta software Bug?

I agree here ... FSK D, AFSK A, and PSK D should show 400, 400 and 100
Hz, while only DATA A should show the full 2.7 or 2.8 KHz.

It would also be very nice if *NORM* would default to 2.8 KHz in DATA A
on the K3 rather than 400 Hz (which is only appropriate for FSK D and
AFSK A).

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 4/26/2014 9:02 AM, Mike K2MK wrote:

> Hi Alan,
>
> I think you should go a bit deeper and read the data sub mode and the DSP
> bandwidth and have the transmit cursor agree more closely to how the
> operator is listening to signals. When I'm operating split in RTTY the last
> thing I want to see is a 2.7KHz wide red cursor cluttering up the screen. If
> you can't do this then there could be a menu option to adjust the red cursor
> width.
>
> 73,
> Mike K2MK
>
>
> Alan Bloom wrote
>> One change in the beta firmware is to make the width of the transmit
>> cursor in "Data A" mode equal to 2.7 kHz. The reason is that in Data A
>> mode there is no way for the firmware to know what the actual bandwidth
>> is - it can be whatever is coming out the PC's sound card. So rather
>> than assume narrow-FSK as in the old firmware, the new firmware makes
>> the cursor width equal to the SSB bandwidth.
>>
>> Alan N1AL
>>
>>
>> On 04/25/2014 05:37 PM, Harry_Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>>> I am new to having a P3 (with SVGA).
>>>
>>> I loaded the new beta and now there is a red background while in data
>>> mode
>>> Is that the Transmit cursor (I do not recall seeing it before)?
>>>
>>>
>>> I noticed on the VGA monitor the Red will go from Low intensity Red to
>>> High
>>> intensity Red when you change the Waterfall Colors form Default to Grey
>>> scale.
>>>
>
>
>
>
>
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Alan Bloom

Re: P3 Beta software Bug?

On 04/26/2014 06:42 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
> I agree here ... FSK D, AFSK A, and PSK D should show 400, 400 and 100
> Hz, while only DATA A should show the full 2.7 or 2.8 KHz.

Yes, that's how it works.

Alan N1AL

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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: P3 Beta software Bug?

Except PSK D does not show anything since split is disabled.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 4/26/2014 11:00 AM, Alan Bloom wrote:

>
> On 04/26/2014 06:42 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>
>> I agree here ... FSK D, AFSK A, and PSK D should show 400, 400 and 100
>> Hz, while only DATA A should show the full 2.7 or 2.8 KHz.
>
> Yes, that's how it works.
>
> Alan N1AL
>
>

Mike K2MK

Re: P3 Beta software Bug?

In reply to this post by Alan Bloom

Hi Alan,

My apologies. I misread your prior posting. You said Data A and I misread it as just Data. Please disregard my comments. You've got all of the bases well covered.

73,
Mike K2MK

Alan Bloom wrote

On 04/26/2014 06:42 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
> I agree here ... FSK D, AFSK A, and PSK D should show 400, 400 and 100
> Hz, while only DATA A should show the full 2.7 or 2.8 KHz.

Yes, that's how it works.

Alan N1AL