P3 Goodness and questions
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I recently obtained a P3 and I'm and exceedingly happy! Now that I own it I
feel bad that I wasted a few years trying other solutions that introduced noise and undue complexity into my station. Just a few notes and questions because the manual is helpful but I don't fully understand what I'm reading yet. 1. When using QSY the P3 unit often slides. How do most of you prevent the unit from sliding? 2. The signal/noise floor jumps a lot and I'm not sure if that's due to local interference or something in my setup. Based on reading I likely need to noise troubleshoot/filter my station. I don't see an AGC setting for the P3. Any suggestions? 3. What serial number requires the mod? My serial is 3251 4. I need a serial port screw stud - can I buy that from Elecraft when I purchase a cable + vga card? 5. Is there a quick setup cheat-sheet anyone has for the P3? Thanks in advance Jerry Moore AE4PB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Jerry,
As to your last question, there is a Nifty Manual available. Most Ham stores have them or you can go to niftyaccessories.com. 73, Jim Jim Finan AB4AC Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device Original Message From: [hidden email] Sent: February 20, 2020 10:01 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Goodness and questions I recently obtained a P3 and I'm and exceedingly happy! Now that I own it I feel bad that I wasted a few years trying other solutions that introduced noise and undue complexity into my station. Just a few notes and questions because the manual is helpful but I don't fully understand what I'm reading yet. 1. When using QSY the P3 unit often slides. How do most of you prevent the unit from sliding? 2. The signal/noise floor jumps a lot and I'm not sure if that's due to local interference or something in my setup. Based on reading I likely need to noise troubleshoot/filter my station. I don't see an AGC setting for the P3. Any suggestions? 3. What serial number requires the mod? My serial is 3251 4. I need a serial port screw stud - can I buy that from Elecraft when I purchase a cable + vga card? 5. Is there a quick setup cheat-sheet anyone has for the P3? Thanks in advance Jerry Moore AE4PB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 2/20/2020 7:00 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > I recently obtained a P3 and I'm and exceedingly happy! Now that I own it I > feel bad that I wasted a few years trying other solutions that introduced > noise and undue complexity into my station. > > Just a few notes and questions because the manual is helpful but I don't > fully understand what I'm reading yet. > > > > 1. When using QSY the P3 unit often slides. How do most of you prevent > the unit from sliding? > 2. The signal/noise floor jumps a lot and I'm not sure if that's due to > local interference or something in my setup. Based on reading I likely need > to noise troubleshoot/filter my station. I don't see an AGC setting for the > P3. Any suggestions? **The baseline will move around due to changing ambient noise levels. I run the averaging at max for the spectrum display which makes the signals stand out better and reduces the "jumpiness", averaging on waterfall is at minimum > 3. What serial number requires the mod? My serial is 3251 **Don't know. I've had mine for 7 or so years and never put any mods in. > 4. I need a serial port screw stud - can I buy that from Elecraft when > I purchase a cable + vga card? **Maybe, but I'd think they'd not stock parts of parts. You can just buy a connector and take the stud off. > 5. Is there a quick setup cheat-sheet anyone has for the P3? **FN1: Span 4; FN2: Span 50; FN3: Span 200; FN4: Peak **FN5: Span 20; FN6: Span 100; FN7: Span 25; FN8: Freeze **Spectrum avg: Max **Waterfall avg: Min **Waterfall disp: Monochrome **Display: Fixed Tune **I use the monochrome waterfall primarily because I have no color vision, however guest ops have noted that you can see weaker signals on it. YMMV ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On 2/20/20 at 10:00 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>1. When using QSY the P3 unit often slides. How do most of you prevent >the unit from sliding? I built a special clamp that goes over the top of my K3 and keeps the P3 on top from sliding backwards out of aluminum bar. Tightening the screws on the both ends clamp it to the K3 so it doesn't slide. It also comes off easily for getting into the K3 and doesn't mar the K3 case. 73 Bill AE6JV ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Ham radio contesting is a | Periwinkle (408)348-7900 | contact sport. | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 www.pwpconsult.com | --Ken Widelitz K6LA/VY2TT | Peterborough, NH 03458 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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My P3 sits beside my K3S and both use the elevation bail to raise the front of the radio and P3 along with my KPA500. I don’t find that any of the 3 pieces move when operating.
Bob, K4TAX Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 20, 2020, at 2:06 PM, Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> wrote: > > On 2/20/20 at 10:00 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > >> 1. When using QSY the P3 unit often slides. How do most of you prevent >> the unit from sliding? > > I built a special clamp that goes over the top of my K3 and keeps the P3 on top from sliding backwards out of aluminum bar. Tightening the screws on the both ends clamp it to the K3 so it doesn't slide. It also comes off easily for getting into the K3 and doesn't mar the K3 case. > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | Ham radio contesting is a | Periwinkle > (408)348-7900 | contact sport. | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 > www.pwpconsult.com | --Ken Widelitz K6LA/VY2TT | Peterborough, NH 03458 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Many years ago I took a piece of oak the same length as the combined width of my K3 and P3.About 1" thick by 3" wide.On the 3" face I created a groove running the entire length set back about an inch from one edge.The dimensions of the groove are such that the rubber feet on the bails on the radio and P3 are a snug fit.I added some self adhesive feet to the bottom of the wood piece.Keeps the K3 and P3 in perfect alignment with each other.I rounded the edges and finished the wood with polyurethane. Looks really nice and I could probably make another in less time than it took me to write this email.73,Gary K9GS
-------- Original message --------From: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> Date: 2/20/20 1:52 PM (GMT-06:00) To: [hidden email] Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Goodness and questions On 2/20/20 at 10:00 AM, [hidden email] wrote:>1. When using QSY the P3 unit often slides. How do most of you prevent>the unit from sliding?I built a special clamp that goes over the top of my K3 and keeps the P3 on top from sliding backwards out of aluminum bar. Tightening the screws on the both ends clamp it to the K3 so it doesn't slide. It also comes off easily for getting into the K3 and doesn't mar the K3 case.73 Bill AE6JV-----------------------------------------------------------------------Bill Frantz | Ham radio contesting is a | Periwinkle(408)348-7900 | contact sport. | 150 Rivermead Rd #235www.pwpconsult.com | --Ken Widelitz K6LA/VY2TT | Peterborough, NH 03458______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:[hidden email] list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I have used a rubberized mat material designed for lining kitchen shelves to keep keyer paddles in place. That may work for a P3 as well. Something like “gorilla grip”. There are a number of choices.
73 de Dick, K6KR > On Feb 20, 2020, at 09:02, [hidden email] wrote: > > I recently obtained a P3 and I'm and exceedingly happy! Now that I own it I > feel bad that I wasted a few years trying other solutions that introduced > noise and undue complexity into my station. > > Just a few notes and questions because the manual is helpful but I don't > fully understand what I'm reading yet. > > > > 1. When using QSY the P3 unit often slides. How do most of you prevent > the unit from sliding? > 2. The signal/noise floor jumps a lot and I'm not sure if that's due to > local interference or something in my setup. Based on reading I likely need > to noise troubleshoot/filter my station. I don't see an AGC setting for the > P3. Any suggestions? > 3. What serial number requires the mod? My serial is 3251 > 4. I need a serial port screw stud - can I buy that from Elecraft when > I purchase a cable + vga card? > 5. Is there a quick setup cheat-sheet anyone has for the P3? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > Jerry Moore > > AE4PB > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi Jerry,
I found on the Elecraft site under P3 mods, 3 mods 1 Mod to early K3's not K3S Buffer gain 2 Holder clip for the P3 ribbon cable 3 How to assemble PowerPoles Ask Elecraft parts about the screwI agree Nifty Accessories has good "cheat" sheets 73Jim Hk7sss In a message dated 2/20/2020 7:06:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: I recently obtained a P3 and I'm and exceedingly happy! Now that I own it Ifeel bad that I wasted a few years trying other solutions that introducednoise and undue complexity into my station. Just a few notes and questions because the manual is helpful but I don'tfully understand what I'm reading yet. 3. What serial number requires the mod? My serial is 32514. I need a serial port screw stud - can I buy that from Elecraft whenI purchase a cable + vga card?5. Is there a quick setup cheat-sheet anyone has for the P3? Thanks in advance Jerry Moore AE4PB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On 2/20/2020 11:52 AM, Bill Frantz wrote:
> I built a special clamp that goes over the top of my K3 and keeps the P3 > on top from sliding backwards out of aluminum bar. Tightening the screws > on the both ends clamp it to the K3 so it doesn't slide. Yes. My K3s are tilted with the standard bale, and I've used velcro tabs applied to the top of the K3s and the P3 feet. Not elegant, but it works fine. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I have 24xx K3. It did need the mod. Actually put in when I had a LP
pan-adapter before the P3. The mod is changing one resistor. R8 from 1k to 13k. I used a 1/4 watt only because I do not stock 1/8 watt. On the Elecraft web site K3IOBUFFKT - IF Output Buffer Gain Modification is the kit for $5. https://elecraft.com/pages/k3-enhancements-and-mods-and-tech-alerts The instructions are https://ftp.elecraft.com/K3/Mod%20Notes%20Alerts/IF_Output_Buffer_Gain_Mod_Rev_A.pdf The mod sheet says all K3 shipped after September 2009 have this mod. Hopes that helps a bit 73 George Danner -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 10:00 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Goodness and questions I recently obtained a P3 and I'm and exceedingly happy! Now that I own it I feel bad that I wasted a few years trying other solutions that introduced noise and undue complexity into my station. Just a few notes and questions because the manual is helpful but I don't fully understand what I'm reading yet. 1. When using QSY the P3 unit often slides. How do most of you prevent the unit from sliding? 2. The signal/noise floor jumps a lot and I'm not sure if that's due to local interference or something in my setup. Based on reading I likely need to noise troubleshoot/filter my station. I don't see an AGC setting for the P3. Any suggestions? 3. What serial number requires the mod? My serial is 3251 4. I need a serial port screw stud - can I buy that from Elecraft when I purchase a cable + vga card? 5. Is there a quick setup cheat-sheet anyone has for the P3? Thanks in advance Jerry Moore AE4PB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Jerry
For #1 there are a couple of things a) in menu set one of the function buttons to "knob tap" and "knob hold" the select knob takes more pressure so using one of the function buttons is much less force. b) I have my K3s and P3 mounted to a single board, I put the bails down and then built a couple of simple clamps to clamp the bails to the board, makes the K3s/P3 combo a single unit not only keeps the P3 fixed but also simplifies cabling so they act as one unit when needing to move around. Kinda like having a large K4 :) #2 go into the menu and turn the Noise Blanker on "NB En", you may have to experiment with the NB Level (I set mine on 5) depending on your own conditions. de Dave K5MWR On 2/20/2020 09:00, [hidden email] wrote: > I recently obtained a P3 and I'm and exceedingly happy! Now that I own it I > feel bad that I wasted a few years trying other solutions that introduced > noise and undue complexity into my station. > > Just a few notes and questions because the manual is helpful but I don't > fully understand what I'm reading yet. > > > > 1. When using QSY the P3 unit often slides. How do most of you prevent > the unit from sliding? > 2. The signal/noise floor jumps a lot and I'm not sure if that's due to > local interference or something in my setup. Based on reading I likely need > to noise troubleshoot/filter my station. I don't see an AGC setting for the > P3. Any suggestions? > 3. What serial number requires the mod? My serial is 3251 > 4. I need a serial port screw stud - can I buy that from Elecraft when > I purchase a cable + vga card? > 5. Is there a quick setup cheat-sheet anyone has for the P3? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > Jerry Moore > > AE4PB > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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