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john@kk9a.com

P3 Panadaptor

I added the P3 panadaptor to my K3S line this year I have used it twice -
in the CW WPX RTTY contest and in last weekend's WPX Phone contest. I have
not found any use for it (in contesting) other than to tell me that the band
segment is fill of signals, which I already knew. I did not notice any
obviously quiet frequencies that would be good to CQ on, nor can I tell when
a big pileup occurs on a new potential multiplier. What is the secret to
using a P3 during major contests?

John KK9A

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George Dubovsky

Re: P3 Panadaptor

Well, it makes unassisted S/P a lot faster; just tune for the next blip.
And, if you have directional antennas, like a NE beverage on 160 or 80, it
helps to pre-qualify some signals as to multiplier possibility. And it
certainly helps to see how close the interference is when you're running. I
wouldn't contest without it now. But I don't do fone so maybe that colors
my judgement.

73,

geo - n4ua

On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 4:29 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I added the P3 panadaptor to my K3S line this year I have used it twice -
> in the CW WPX RTTY contest and in last weekend's WPX Phone contest. I have
> not found any use for it (in contesting) other than to tell me that the
> band
> segment is fill of signals, which I already knew. I did not notice any
> obviously quiet frequencies that would be good to CQ on, nor can I tell
> when
> a big pileup occurs on a new potential multiplier. What is the secret to
> using a P3 during major contests?
>
> John KK9A
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Bill Frantz

Re: P3 Panadaptor

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I think you may need to reduce the span on your P3 so you see a
smaller part of the band with more detail. The right level of
detail depends on whether you are using CW, RTTY, or SSB. A span
of 20 or lower is good for CW. With RTTY, you want to see both
tracks of the signal as an aid to quickly tuning it. For SSB,
much wider works. When I'm trying to work a DX pileup, I try to
have the whole pileup on the screen.

73 Bill AE6JV

I use my P3 to locate signals when running search and pounce.
It's a lot faster that slow tuning thru the band. I can also
locate an open frequency when I am getting ready to run.

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>I did not notice any
>obviously quiet frequencies that would be good to CQ on, nor can I tell when
>a big pileup occurs on a new potential multiplier. What is the secret to
>using a P3 during major contests?

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Ed Muns

Re: P3 Panadaptor

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Maximize and utilize the waterfall portion of the display.

Ed W0YK
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John KK9A wrote:

I added the P3 panadaptor to my K3S line this year I have used it twice -
in the CW WPX RTTY contest and in last weekend's WPX Phone contest. I have
not found any use for it (in contesting) other than to tell me that the band
segment is fill of signals, which I already knew. I did not notice any
obviously quiet frequencies that would be good to CQ on, nor can I tell when
a big pileup occurs on a new potential multiplier. What is the secret to
using a P3 during major contests?

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Guy Olinger K2AV

Re: P3 Panadaptor

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The waterfall is what shows vacant frequencies. It gives you the most
recent history of frequencies. To start set the span so there's about four
or five operating slots per inch.

I make the amplitude display as squished as possible and the waterfall as
big as possible. I also have the SVGA display up and

On Saturday, April 2, 2016, <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I added the P3 panadaptor to my K3S line this year I have used it twice -
> in the CW WPX RTTY contest and in last weekend's WPX Phone contest. I have
> not found any use for it (in contesting) other than to tell me that the
> band
> segment is fill of signals, which I already knew. I did not notice any
> obviously quiet frequencies that would be good to CQ on, nor can I tell
> when
> a big pileup occurs on a new potential multiplier. What is the secret to
> using a P3 during major contests?
>
> John KK9A
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Guy Olinger K2AV

Re: P3 Panadaptor

Sent before done. More below.

On Saturday, April 2, 2016, Guy Olinger K2AV <[hidden email]> wrote:

> The waterfall is what shows vacant frequencies. It gives you the most
> recent history of frequencies. To start set the span so there's about four
> or five operating slots per inch.
>
> I make the amplitude display as squished as possible and the waterfall as
> big as possible. I also have the SVGA display up and
>
and have it set to make the waterfall advance as slow as possible to
maximize the amount of time shown by the waterfall.

Would not operate a contest at home without it. Huge, huge help in finding
a run frequency.

73 and good luck, Guy K2AV

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> On Saturday, April 2, 2016, <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I added the P3 panadaptor to my K3S line this year I have used it twice -
>> in the CW WPX RTTY contest and in last weekend's WPX Phone contest. I have
>> not found any use for it (in contesting) other than to tell me that the
>> band
>> segment is fill of signals, which I already knew. I did not notice any
>> obviously quiet frequencies that would be good to CQ on, nor can I tell
>> when
>> a big pileup occurs on a new potential multiplier. What is the secret to
>> using a P3 during major contests?
>>
>> John KK9A
>>
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jeff stai-2

Re: P3 Panadaptor

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I'll echo what everyone has said about using the waterfall. Pretty much
just maximize the area of the waterfall display to the extent the P3 will
let you. Then S&P is a matter of hopping from trace to trace, and you don't
miss the ones you would be missing by tuning past them without the display.
Finding a space is easier too. I like a Span of 10 for RTTY. At that size
you can see plenty of signals and with practice you can even use the P3 as
a tuning aid to tune in the signal when it reappears. 73 jeff wk6i

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NK7Z

Re: P3 Panadaptor

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Hi John,

Set your Span to 10 KHz., then go looking at the pileups for either of
the DX operations that are out there now...

Offset the center to the side, and look at the people calling the DX
station...

Watch the traces as the DX station answers callers, you will see the
people he is answering sending the confirm... Tune your transmit to
that freq, maybe slightly lower, and call when he asks...

You are looking for who he called, and are looking to see what he is
doing... For instance, if the DX is slowly walking up the band, you
can pre position yourself in the next clear spot above last station he
worked... I get most of my answers by doing this...

You can also see where the holes are, where no one is calling and
position yourself there...

I honestly could not imagine using the rig without a P3... I have a
friend that has a K3 and no P3, and it is almost impossible to use now
for me... I could go back, but I would be kicking all the way, it
really is that useful once you get it know it...

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On Sat, 2016-04-02 at 16:29 -0400, [hidden email] wrote:

> I added the P3 panadaptor to my K3S line this year I have used it
> twice -
> in the CW WPX RTTY contest and in last weekend's WPX Phone contest. I
> have
> not found any use for it (in contesting) other than to tell me that
> the band
> segment is fill of signals, which I already knew. I did not notice
> any
> obviously quiet frequencies that would be good to CQ on, nor can I
> tell when
> a big pileup occurs on a new potential multiplier. What is the
> secret to
> using a P3 during major contests?
>
> John KK9A
>
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Mike Dodd

Re: P3 Panadaptor

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On 4/2/2016 4:29 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> What is the secret to
> using a P3 during major contests?

I'll echo what others have said about finding signals for S&P, and I'll
also add that I use it for locating and tuning RTTY signals. It takes a
bit of practice to get used to tuning the twin peaks to the offset
cursor, not the center line, but I find it _very_ helpful for RTTY.

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Elecraft KX3 + KXPA100 @ 100W
Elecraft PX3 panadapter
Carolina Windom up 45'
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Bill Steffey NY9H

Re: P3 Panadaptor many different tools

I've used the P3 to make both stills and videos for use in radio classes.
What AM looks like, CW SSB USB LSB ...PSK RTTY

When width set to 5kc, it is a great analyzer. Some USB stations have
considerable LSB content..... oops. And lots of strange stuff from
EQ settings & overdriving transceivers and amps !!!

It is very evident if the station has no audio HF sibilance .. shows
clearly on the screen, or the big boomer bass guys... WOW

I've learned how to search the pileup for the last caller...and
determine if the dx is drifting up or down, to anticipate where to
drop in my call. great tool...

Makes sitting on a set split look like a total waste of time .

Heard a guy relating how he was NOT working HEARD
." Guess they never came across my signal"... guess not .

bill ny9h/3

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