P3/SVGA used as "modem" for DxLab WWW or other apps

[ik1bxn]

Hi ! I'm having crazy (probably that) idea : should it be possible to use P3/Svga in DxLab WWW as if it was an external device such as KAM or PK232 or whatever similar ?
I'd like to leave k3 decoding and encoding PSK31 or RTTY FSK and having and external software/suite it would mean IMHO to be able to manage the log, controlling the rig via CAT (maybe) and more.
....I'm sure I'm forgetting some basic aspects that make this scenario impossible, sorry in advance :-)
Best 73
Giorgio

[Joe Subich, W4TV-4]

This is an issue for the author of DXLab Suite (Commander/WinWarbler).
You may want to take it up with him on his list.  Use of TB/KY is
certainly something that can be done in Commander/WinWarbler.

 From previous discussions, I know that he will not pursue it as long
as the transmit "tail" is four seconds due to the need to manage the
transmit buffer and send a separate TX OFF.   If/when Wayne makes VOX
Delay work with text from ASCII/text from paddles and Dave once again
has access to a K3 he may consider support for the terminal mode in
the K3.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2/18/2013 9:45 AM, ik1bxn wrote:

> Hi ! I'm having crazy (probably that) idea : should it be possible to use
> P3/Svga in DxLab WWW as if it was an external device such as KAM or PK232 or
> whatever similar ?
> I'd like to leave k3 decoding and encoding PSK31 or RTTY FSK and having and
> external software/suite it would mean IMHO to be able to manage the log,
> controlling the rig via CAT (maybe) and more.
> ....I'm sure I'm forgetting some basic aspects that make this scenario
> impossible, sorry in advance :-)
> Best 73
> Giorgio
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[Don Wilhelm-4]

Giorgio,

I think you are asking for a general purpose computer inside the P3
running some OS that can execute DxLab.
I don't think that is going to be possible.  The P3 does have a
dedicated processor but it is not a general purpose computer.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/18/2013 9:45 AM, ik1bxn wrote:

> Hi ! I'm having crazy (probably that) idea : should it be possible to use
> P3/Svga in DxLab WWW as if it was an external device such as KAM or PK232 or
> whatever similar ?
> I'd like to leave k3 decoding and encoding PSK31 or RTTY FSK and having and
> external software/suite it would mean IMHO to be able to manage the log,
> controlling the rig via CAT (maybe) and more.
> ....I'm sure I'm forgetting some basic aspects that make this scenario
> impossible, sorry in advance :-)
> Best 73
> Giorgio
>

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[ik1bxn]

Thanks Joe and Don for answer.
No Don, I think to a terminal data exchange between p3 and an external application that can manage/integrate current date. The encode/decode job is inside k3 and inputs/result are available on the serial port. Something like a modem.
Into other words the pc running the app will find on serial comm decoded text coming from the qso, the same going to transmission app will send data to k3 that will encode and will transmit.
It's what we did years ago by using external device such KAM. The app was basically a terminal sw capable to help you by managing memories (we better call them now macros) and so on.
If I understood correctly with P3/Svga the only way I have to interact (during a qso so) is to see what's incoming and answer via the keyboard. This way there is no additional function such as : inserting qso into the log (retrieving callsign,freq,mode,time and so on), query QRZ for data and more.

As Joe clarified it would have been not easy to get.

Thanks you for kind attention and explanation....but it's not a new here :-) !!!

73 Giorgio

[Todd - k1tm]

Giorgio,

I played around with WinWarbler by creating a modem definition for the K3 and added it to modem list similar to what you have for the KAM.  (FYI...I still use my Kam+ with the K3 for RTTY and CW).  As long as Commander is not running and no P3 attached, I was able to use the TTn; command to flow the decoded text to WinWarbler.  Dave needs to take a try at using the TB command approach to facilitate a real terminal that would allow Commander to remain running and allow the decode and transmit available to the WinWarbler user.  When I poked him last, he said he needed access to a K3.  

73, Todd.