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w7aqk

P3 Vs. 2nd RX

Hi All,

I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it without using the
2nd RX. I love my P3, but for DX stuff the 2nd RX always seems to be the
difference. In this case, V73D was moving up slightly after just about
every QSO, and not sure the P3 tells you that! The DX clusters don't really
help that much. By the time you see the split indicated, it has probably
changed a good bit. If I didn't have the 2nd RX, I would be dependent on
"outhouse luck" or brute force, neither of which is a strong suit here! Hi.
By the way, my QSO's with the TX3X gang were also quick and relatively easy
thanks to the 2nd RX. Anyway, both tools are great, but I suggest adding
the 2nd RX first, if only one can be added at the moment--at least if
working DX is your goal.

Dave W7AQK

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Mike K2MK

Re: P3 Vs. 2nd RX

Hi Dave,

As you described, having both a Sub RX and a P3 are a great asset for working split operations. One area where the P3 excels is finding a quiet spot to transmit. It's not always as obvious with the Sub RX. With a modest station it may not be beneficial to jump on the exact frequency of the last QSO. A clear frequency can be a better choice.

73,
Mike K2MK

dyarnes-2 wrote

Hi All,

I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it without using the
2nd RX. I love my P3, but for DX stuff the 2nd RX always seems to be the
difference. In this case, V73D was moving up slightly after just about
every QSO, and not sure the P3 tells you that! The DX clusters don't really
help that much. By the time you see the split indicated, it has probably
changed a good bit. If I didn't have the 2nd RX, I would be dependent on
"outhouse luck" or brute force, neither of which is a strong suit here! Hi.
By the way, my QSO's with the TX3X gang were also quick and relatively easy
thanks to the 2nd RX. Anyway, both tools are great, but I suggest adding
the 2nd RX first, if only one can be added at the moment--at least if
working DX is your goal.

Dave W7AQK

Bill Frantz

Re: P3 Vs. 2nd RX

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On 10/14/15 at 6:27 AM, [hidden email] (w7aqk) wrote:

>I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it
>without using the 2nd RX. I love my P3, but for DX stuff the
>2nd RX always seems to be the difference.

I find the P3 is really good for finding the DX in the first
place. (I am frequently in places with no Internet access.) A DX
pileup has a special look on the P3 with one (weak) station
transmitting and then the pileup coming back (except for the
ones who aren't listening to the DX and are just transmitting).
I agree with Mike that the P3 is also good for finding an open
place to transmit, particularly valuable when doing RTTY.

OTOH, I have a brand new 2nd receiver and diversity was
wonderful in the California QSO party. It beats the REV button
hands down. I would go with the P3 first. HIHI

73 Bill AE6JV

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NK7Z

Re: P3 Vs. 2nd RX

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That is exactly how I got V73D as well... Watching him on the P3 work
people, and pre-positioning myself in front of him...
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On Wed, 2015-10-14 at 07:09 -0700, Mike K2MK wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> As you described, having both a Sub RX and a P3 are a great asset for
> working split operations. One area where the P3 excels is finding a quiet
> spot to transmit. It's not always as obvious with the Sub RX. With a modest
> station it may not be beneficial to jump on the exact frequency of the last
> QSO. A clear frequency can be a better choice.
>
> 73,
> Mike K2MK
>
>
>
> dyarnes-2 wrote
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it without using
> > the
> > 2nd RX. I love my P3, but for DX stuff the 2nd RX always seems to be the
> > difference. In this case, V73D was moving up slightly after just about
> > every QSO, and not sure the P3 tells you that! The DX clusters don't
> > really
> > help that much. By the time you see the split indicated, it has probably
> > changed a good bit. If I didn't have the 2nd RX, I would be dependent on
> > "outhouse luck" or brute force, neither of which is a strong suit here!
> > Hi.
> > By the way, my QSO's with the TX3X gang were also quick and relatively
> > easy
> > thanks to the 2nd RX. Anyway, both tools are great, but I suggest adding
> > the 2nd RX first, if only one can be added at the moment--at least if
> > working DX is your goal.
> >
> > Dave W7AQK
>
>
>
>
>
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NK7Z

Re: P3 Vs. 2nd RX

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Then just wait for some poor person to transmit on top of the DX, in
error, and look for all the band cops sending UP UP UP, and you can find
the DX frequency as well. :)
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On Wed, 2015-10-14 at 10:03 -0700, Bill Frantz wrote:

> On 10/14/15 at 6:27 AM, [hidden email] (w7aqk) wrote:
>
> >I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it
> >without using the 2nd RX. I love my P3, but for DX stuff the
> >2nd RX always seems to be the difference.
>
> I find the P3 is really good for finding the DX in the first
> place. (I am frequently in places with no Internet access.) A DX
> pileup has a special look on the P3 with one (weak) station
> transmitting and then the pileup coming back (except for the
> ones who aren't listening to the DX and are just transmitting).
> I agree with Mike that the P3 is also good for finding an open
> place to transmit, particularly valuable when doing RTTY.
>
> OTOH, I have a brand new 2nd receiver and diversity was
> wonderful in the California QSO party. It beats the REV button
> hands down. I would go with the P3 first. HIHI
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Bill Frantz | When it comes to the world | Periwinkle
> (408)356-8506 | around us, is there any choice | 16345
> Englewood Ave
> www.pwpconsult.com | but to explore? - Lisa Randall | Los Gatos,
> CA 95032
>
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KEN-3

Re: P3 Vs. 2nd RX

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I wonder if a CW skimmer would work as well or even better, assuming
that it can pick out the call signs. Of course that would only work for
CW DX.

Ken WA8JXM

On 10/14/15 9:27 AM, w7aqk wrote:

> I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it without
> using the 2nd RX. I love my P3, but for DX stuff the 2nd RX always
> seems to be the difference. In this case, V73D was moving up slightly
> after just about every QSO, and not sure the P3 tells you that! The
> DX clusters don't really help that much. By the time you see the
> split indicated, it has probably changed a good bit. If I didn't have
> the 2nd RX, I would be dependent on "outhouse luck" or brute force,
> neither of which is a strong suit here! Hi. By the way, my QSO's with
> the TX3X gang were also quick and relatively easy thanks to the 2nd
> RX. Anyway, both tools are great, but I suggest adding the 2nd RX
> first, if only one can be added at the moment--at least if working DX
> is your goal.

Deni F5VJC

Re: P3 Vs. 2nd RX

Of course that would only work for CW DX.

Is there any other?

73, Deni - F5VJC

On 14 October 2015 at 22:39, Ken <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I wonder if a CW skimmer would work as well or even better, assuming that
> it can pick out the call signs. Of course that would only work for CW DX.
>
> Ken WA8JXM
>
> On 10/14/15 9:27 AM, w7aqk wrote:
>
>> I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it without using
>> the 2nd RX. I love my P3, but for DX stuff the 2nd RX always seems to be
>> the difference. In this case, V73D was moving up slightly after just about
>> every QSO, and not sure the P3 tells you that! The DX clusters don't
>> really help that much. By the time you see the split indicated, it has
>> probably changed a good bit. If I didn't have the 2nd RX, I would be
>> dependent on "outhouse luck" or brute force, neither of which is a strong
>> suit here! Hi. By the way, my QSO's with the TX3X gang were also quick and
>> relatively easy thanks to the 2nd RX. Anyway, both tools are great, but I
>> suggest adding the 2nd RX first, if only one can be added at the moment--at
>> least if working DX is your goal.
>>
>
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