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Or get a dual monitor - two screens side-by-side on a single mount - if
space allows. Several of the manufacturers make them. Interestingly, a fellow at the Apple store here told me that the older Macs could have two displays on the same screen one of which was a VGA input, but the newer ones (as of three or four years ago) cannot. He was a sales clerk, not an engineer so far as I know, so I have my doubts. When this question was last on the reflector someone suggested converting the P3¹s SVGA output into an Internet signal. Both Windows and Mac allow simultaneous display of the browser and any other resident application. Exactly how to do that conversion is beyond me . . . but if anyone knows an easy way, please post it here . . . Thanks. Ted, KN1CBR >Message: 10 >Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 00:41:36 -0600 >From: Richard Fjeld <[hidden email]> >To: [hidden email] >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Keyboard >Message-ID: <[hidden email]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > >Tony, >FYI, I use an A/B switch to share a monitor between my P3 and Computer. >I seldom use the computer while operating. >If I do, I can still use the P3. >Dick, n0ce > >On 12/30/2014 5:22 PM, N2TK, Tony wrote: >> The reason I don't use an external monitor (I have two already) is that >>I >> don't want to dedicate a monitor to just the P3. I am assuming that the >>SVGA >> option still does not let you size the window and allow other programs >>to be >> displayed on the same monitor, correct? >> >> Just want to verify in case things changed. >> >> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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What is an Internet signal and how would that help?
Fred, AE6QL -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dauer, Edward Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 11:01 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] P3 and Other Windows Simultaneously Or get a dual monitor - two screens side-by-side on a single mount - if space allows. Several of the manufacturers make them. Interestingly, a fellow at the Apple store here told me that the older Macs could have two displays on the same screen one of which was a VGA input, but the newer ones (as of three or four years ago) cannot. He was a sales clerk, not an engineer so far as I know, so I have my doubts. When this question was last on the reflector someone suggested converting the P3¹s SVGA output into an Internet signal. Both Windows and Mac allow simultaneous display of the browser and any other resident application. Exactly how to do that conversion is beyond me . . . but if anyone knows an easy way, please post it here . . . Thanks. Ted, KN1CBR >Message: 10 >Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 00:41:36 -0600 >From: Richard Fjeld <[hidden email]> >To: [hidden email] >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Keyboard >Message-ID: <[hidden email]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > >Tony, >FYI, I use an A/B switch to share a monitor between my P3 and Computer. >I seldom use the computer while operating. >If I do, I can still use the P3. >Dick, n0ce > >On 12/30/2014 5:22 PM, N2TK, Tony wrote: >> The reason I don't use an external monitor (I have two already) is >>that I don't want to dedicate a monitor to just the P3. I am assuming >>that the SVGA option still does not let you size the window and allow >>other programs to be displayed on the same monitor, correct? >> >> Just want to verify in case things changed. >> >> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8846 - Release Date: 12/31/14 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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About the only way I can see this working would be to use aVGA video INPUT card for the PC to bring the signal into the PC.
Monitors are fairly inexpensive so it's probably cheaper to just add a dedicated monitor. I already run 3 monitors, and I'm considering a 4th to dedicate just to the P3 From: "Dauer, Edward" <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, January 1, 2015 2:00 PM Subject: [Elecraft] P3 and Other Windows Simultaneously Or get a dual monitor - two screens side-by-side on a single mount - if space allows. Several of the manufacturers make them. Interestingly, a fellow at the Apple store here told me that the older Macs could have two displays on the same screen one of which was a VGA input, but the newer ones (as of three or four years ago) cannot. He was a sales clerk, not an engineer so far as I know, so I have my doubts. When this question was last on the reflector someone suggested converting the P3¹s SVGA output into an Internet signal. Both Windows and Mac allow simultaneous display of the browser and any other resident application. Exactly how to do that conversion is beyond me . . . but if anyone knows an easy way, please post it here . . . Thanks. Ted, KN1CBR >Message: 10 >Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 00:41:36 -0600 >From: Richard Fjeld <[hidden email]> >To: [hidden email] >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Keyboard >Message-ID: <[hidden email]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > >Tony, >FYI, I use an A/B switch to share a monitor between my P3 and Computer. >I seldom use the computer while operating. >If I do, I can still use the P3. >Dick, n0ce > >On 12/30/2014 5:22 PM, N2TK, Tony wrote: >> The reason I don't use an external monitor (I have two already) is that >>I >> don't want to dedicate a monitor to just the P3. I am assuming that the >>SVGA >> option still does not let you size the window and allow other programs >>to be >> displayed on the same monitor, correct? >> >> Just want to verify in case things changed. >> >> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Someone posted some links to setting up MMTTY or MMvari for rtty and
I lost them. I am struggling with a few problems. I am using MMTTY with AFSK within N1MM I will build an adapter for FSK I am hunting some parts now, but for now I will use AFSK and hope to for the RTTY roundup this weekend. One issue is mode changes. when I am using MMTTY and N1MM it wants to change the mode from AFSK to FSK when ever I change bands or select RTTY mode from N1MM I have to press DATA MD and change it from FSK-d back to AFSK A also Every time close MMTTY and open it from N1MM again it forgets that I am using the COM-2 for PTT it reverts to NONE. All the other settings like mark frequency seem to hold. other than that things are working fine. RX and TX is fine once I set everything someting I dont want to have to do every time I start N1MM Any advice or If anyone has those Links I would appreciate it. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi
If you have a pc with a spare pci express slot and you are running a 64bit operating system you can buy the avermedia hd game broadcaster and use it to display a resizable window on your PC monitors. If you are really ambitious, you can then use VLC, to stream the video to where you want. The reason I say ambitious is that it is extremely difficult to configure VLC for streaming since the documentation is very poor and there are multiple explanations all of which use different syntax. I spent a week trying and only managed to stream to a Windows media player at a low rate. In principle you can stream at 192 kHz but good luck. 73's Tom va2fsq.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi Ted,
Already have two monitors. Just ordered a 27" to replace the 19". I will use dual inputs -HDMI from the workstation and sub-D from the P3. Will switch video inputs to play with the P3 SVGA. I want to see if I would really use an external video to the P3 before I come up with another option such as a smaller dedicated monitor for the P3. Want to see if it really buys me anything over just using the P3 as I presently use it. 73 & HNY! N2TK, Tony -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dauer, Edward Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 2:01 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] P3 and Other Windows Simultaneously Or get a dual monitor - two screens side-by-side on a single mount - if space allows. Several of the manufacturers make them. Interestingly, a fellow at the Apple store here told me that the older Macs could have two displays on the same screen one of which was a VGA input, but the newer ones (as of three or four years ago) cannot. He was a sales clerk, not an engineer so far as I know, so I have my doubts. When this question was last on the reflector someone suggested converting the P3¹s SVGA output into an Internet signal. Both Windows and Mac allow simultaneous display of the browser and any other resident application. Exactly how to do that conversion is beyond me . . . but if anyone knows an easy way, please post it here . . . Thanks. Ted, KN1CBR >Message: 10 >Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 00:41:36 -0600 >From: Richard Fjeld <[hidden email]> >To: [hidden email] >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Keyboard >Message-ID: <[hidden email]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > >Tony, >FYI, I use an A/B switch to share a monitor between my P3 and Computer. >I seldom use the computer while operating. >If I do, I can still use the P3. >Dick, n0ce > >On 12/30/2014 5:22 PM, N2TK, Tony wrote: >> The reason I don't use an external monitor (I have two already) is >>that I don't want to dedicate a monitor to just the P3. I am assuming >>that the SVGA option still does not let you size the window and allow >>other programs to be displayed on the same monitor, correct? >> >> Just want to verify in case things changed. >> >> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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OK, bad terminology. I’m a lawyer, not an engineer. The suggestion
someone (I forget who) made was this - take the P3’s SVGA output and change it by some miracle into something the MAC’s Internet browser would think is an incoming Internet site. Then, because the Mac (and every other computer) can display an Internet site simultaneously with any other window from an onboard app, the problem is solved. How that magical transformation could be made to happen was beyond me. EAD Edward A. Dauer, LL.B., M.P.H. Dean Emeritus and Professor Emeritus of Law University of Denver Sturm College of Law On 1/1/15, 1:20 PM, "Fred Townsend" <[hidden email]> wrote: >What is an Internet signal and how would that help? >Fred, AE6QL > >-----Original Message----- >From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of >Dauer, >Edward >Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 11:01 AM >To: [hidden email] >Subject: [Elecraft] P3 and Other Windows Simultaneously > >Or get a dual monitor - two screens side-by-side on a single mount - if >space allows. Several of the manufacturers make them. > >Interestingly, a fellow at the Apple store here told me that the older >Macs >could have two displays on the same screen one of which was a VGA input, >but >the newer ones (as of three or four years ago) cannot. He was a sales >clerk, not an engineer so far as I know, so I have my doubts. > >When this question was last on the reflector someone suggested converting >the P3¹s SVGA output into an Internet signal. Both Windows and Mac allow >simultaneous display of the browser and any other resident application. >Exactly how to do that conversion is beyond me . . . but if anyone knows >an easy way, please post it here . . . Thanks. > >Ted, KN1CBR > > > > >>Message: 10 >>Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 00:41:36 -0600 >>From: Richard Fjeld <[hidden email]> >>To: [hidden email] >>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Keyboard >>Message-ID: <[hidden email]> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >> >>Tony, >>FYI, I use an A/B switch to share a monitor between my P3 and Computer. >>I seldom use the computer while operating. >>If I do, I can still use the P3. >>Dick, n0ce >> >>On 12/30/2014 5:22 PM, N2TK, Tony wrote: >>> The reason I don't use an external monitor (I have two already) is >>>that I don't want to dedicate a monitor to just the P3. I am assuming >>>that the SVGA option still does not let you size the window and allow >>>other programs to be displayed on the same monitor, correct? >>> >>> Just want to verify in case things changed. >>> >>> > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:[hidden email] > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message >delivered to [hidden email] > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8846 - Release Date: 12/31/14 > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi Tony,
I found 3 immediate advantages with an external monitor. The first of course was relief for my old eyes. Next, on the P3 I preferred a span width of 10KHz on CW and RTTY and 50KHz on SSB. On the external monitor I was able to jump to 20KHz and 100KHz. The third benefit was the larger waterfall height. During contests it is extremely easy to tune where somebody was just transmitting. Great for search and pounce operating. With the taller waterfall signals stay on the screen for probably close to a minute (I never measured it). CW, RTTY, and PSK decoding can also be left on full time at the bottom of the screen if desired. 73, Mike K2MK <quote author="N2TK"> Hi Ted, Already have two monitors. Just ordered a 27" to replace the 19". I will use dual inputs -HDMI from the workstation and sub-D from the P3. Will switch video inputs to play with the P3 SVGA. I want to see if I would really use an external video to the P3 before I come up with another option such as a smaller dedicated monitor for the P3. Want to see if it really buys me anything over just using the P3 as I presently use it. 73 & HNY! N2TK, Tony |
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Tnx Mike for the input. Once I get the new monitor I will switch back and
forth and play with the P3 and see if I get hooked on the external monitor. 73, N2TK, Tony -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike K2MK Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 5:58 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 and Other Windows Simultaneously Hi Tony, I found 3 immediate advantages with an external monitor. The first of course was relief for my old eyes. Next, on the P3 I preferred a span width of 10KHz on CW and RTTY and 50KHz on SSB. On the external monitor I was able to jump to 20KHz and 100KHz. The third benefit was the larger waterfall height. During contests it is extremely easy to tune where somebody was just transmitting. Great for search and pounce operating. With the taller waterfall signals stay on the screen for probably close to a minute (I never measured it). CW, RTTY, and PSK decoding can also be left on full time at the bottom of the screen if desired. 73, Mike K2MK Hi Ted, Already have two monitors. Just ordered a 27" to replace the 19". I will use dual inputs -HDMI from the workstation and sub-D from the P3. Will switch video inputs to play with the P3 SVGA. I want to see if I would really use an external video to the P3 before I come up with another option such as a smaller dedicated monitor for the P3. Want to see if it really buys me anything over just using the P3 as I presently use it. 73 & HNY! N2TK, Tony -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-and-Other-Windows-Simultaneously-tp7 596643p7596654.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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There are monitors on the market that have PbP (Picture beside Picture)
capability built-in. I just acquired a Planar Systems IX-2850 4K 28" display which can display two, three or four inputs on-screen at once. Since it's a 4K display when four inputs are shown each one still gets 1920x1080 pixels. One note to remember however is that a 28" 4K monitor has very small pixels. 73, Steve AD7OG From: "Dauer, Edward" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Or get a dual monitor - two screens side-by-side on a single mount - if space allows. Several > of the manufacturers make them. Interestingly, a fellow at the Apple store here told me that > the older Macs could have two displays on the same screen one of which was a VGA input, > but the newer ones (as of three or four years ago) cannot. He was a sales clerk, not an > engineer so far as I know, so I have my doubts. When this question was last on the reflector > someone suggested converting the P3?s SVGA output into an Internet signal. Both Windows > and Mac allow simultaneous display of the browser and any other resident application. > Exactly how to do that conversion is beyond me . . . but if anyone knows an easy way, please > post it here . . . Thanks. Ted, KN1CBR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Tom,
If you can resize the video using this card, how do you add additional windows to the screen? Tnx N2TK, Tony -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Tom Blahovici Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 4:15 PM To: Harry Yingst via Elecraft Cc: Dauer, Edward Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 and Other Windows Simultaneously Hi If you have a pc with a spare pci express slot and you are running a 64bit operating system you can buy the avermedia hd game broadcaster and use it to display a resizable window on your PC monitors. If you are really ambitious, you can then use VLC, to stream the video to where you want. The reason I say ambitious is that it is extremely difficult to configure VLC for streaming since the documentation is very poor and there are multiple explanations all of which use different syntax. I spent a week trying and only managed to stream to a Windows media player at a low rate. In principle you can stream at 192 kHz but good luck. 73's Tom va2fsq.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi Tony
The avermedia card is a vga capture board. It captures the signal from the svga card and then displays it in a standard windows window. You can resize it like any other window and display it simultaneously with all the other windows on your Windows PC. So you do not need a separate monitor. 73's Tom va2fsq.com On Jan 2, 2015 5:55 AM, "N2TK, Tony" <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Tom, > If you can resize the video using this card, how do you add additional windows to the screen? > Tnx > N2TK, Tony > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Tom Blahovici > Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 4:15 PM > To: Harry Yingst via Elecraft > Cc: Dauer, Edward > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 and Other Windows Simultaneously > > Hi > If you have a pc with a spare pci express slot and you are running a 64bit operating system you can buy the avermedia hd game broadcaster and use it to display a resizable window on your PC monitors. > If you are really ambitious, you can then use VLC, to stream the video to where you want. The reason I say ambitious is that it is extremely difficult to configure VLC for streaming since the documentation is very poor and there are multiple explanations all of which use different syntax. I spent a week trying and only managed to stream to a Windows media player at a low rate. In principle you can stream at 192 kHz but good luck. > 73's Tom > va2fsq.com > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Not with Mac?
On 1/2/15, 7:12 AM, "'Tom Blahovici'" <[hidden email]> wrote: >Hi Tony >The avermedia card is a vga capture board. It captures the signal from >the svga card and then displays it in a standard windows window. You can >resize it like any other window and display it simultaneously with all >the other windows on your Windows PC. So you do not need a separate >monitor. >73's Tom >va2fsq.com > >On Jan 2, 2015 5:55 AM, "N2TK, Tony" <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Tom, >> If you can resize the video using this card, how do you add additional >>windows to the screen? >> Tnx >> N2TK, Tony >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of >>Tom Blahovici >> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 4:15 PM >> To: Harry Yingst via Elecraft >> Cc: Dauer, Edward >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 and Other Windows Simultaneously >> >> Hi >> If you have a pc with a spare pci express slot and you are running a >>64bit operating system you can buy the avermedia hd game broadcaster and >>use it to display a resizable window on your PC monitors. >> If you are really ambitious, you can then use VLC, to stream the video >>to where you want. The reason I say ambitious is that it is extremely >>difficult to configure VLC for streaming since the documentation is very >>poor and there are multiple explanations all of which use different >>syntax. I spent a week trying and only managed to stream to a Windows >>media player at a low rate. In principle you can stream at 192 kHz but >>good luck. >> 73's Tom >> va2fsq.com >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>Message delivered to [hidden email] >> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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