{P3] resale value
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Is it realistic for used P3s to sell for 80% of retail value when they don't
have a warranty, you don't know if they've been tinkered with, you don't know if they are 100%, and the possibility of not getting a cable or part that comes with it when you purchase NIB? I'm in the market for P3 but the prices being asked for used units are such I'm looking to just buy new. Just asking because I'm not sure if I'm being realistic in my price expectations or if the sellers are overpricing. I already feel that Elecraft gear prices are a premium but have been willing to pay the NIB prices to support a local US company. Jerry Moore CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324 http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and Patriotic. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Jerry. It's only worth what you are willing to pay.
Making sure you get the cables shouldn't be a big problem. Otherwise I've not heard of many (if any) issues with P3 units since its introduction. And there isn't much to "tinker" with. Elecraft gear is pretty solid and does seem to hold value well. If you think saving 20% will make it fit your budget I'd not hesitate to purchase. For a K3, that's a piece of change ( P3 + KXV3B = $900). Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 25, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Jerry Moore <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Is it realistic for used P3s to sell for 80% of retail value when they don't > have a warranty, you don't know if they've been tinkered with, you don't > know if they are 100%, and the possibility of not getting a cable or part > that comes with it when you purchase NIB? > > I'm in the market for P3 but the prices being asked for used units are such > I'm looking to just buy new. > > Just asking because I'm not sure if I'm being realistic in my price > expectations or if the sellers are overpricing. I already feel that Elecraft > gear prices are a premium but have been willing to pay the NIB prices to > support a local US company. > > Jerry Moore > CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists > AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324 > http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB > An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and > Patriotic. > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I'd just expect for %80 cost on used gear to be pristine with original
boxes, papers, cables..etc.. otherwise the risk is is too high. I'll probably just keep saving or go with LPAN / SDR based solution. There are a few "features of the P3 that need to be added, like ability to use a smart keyboard and using a point/click/tune interface... e.g. mouse support. I can do that now with my Rasperry Pi and an SDR but most SDR software isn't panadapter specific. I'm a gamer so my keyboards are programmable. Why the P3 blocks intelligent keyboards confuses me. Overall I'd prefer to get the P3 because it matches my gear and simplifies my setup. Jerry Moore CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324 http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and Patriotic. -----Original Message----- From: Nr4c [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:23 AM To: Jerry Moore Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] {P3] resale value Jerry. It's only worth what you are willing to pay. Making sure you get the cables shouldn't be a big problem. Otherwise I've not heard of many (if any) issues with P3 units since its introduction. And there isn't much to "tinker" with. Elecraft gear is pretty solid and does seem to hold value well. If you think saving 20% will make it fit your budget I'd not hesitate to purchase. For a K3, that's a piece of change ( P3 + KXV3B = $900). Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 25, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Jerry Moore <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Is it realistic for used P3s to sell for 80% of retail value when they > don't have a warranty, you don't know if they've been tinkered with, > you don't know if they are 100%, and the possibility of not getting a > cable or part that comes with it when you purchase NIB? > > I'm in the market for P3 but the prices being asked for used units > are such I'm looking to just buy new. > > Just asking because I'm not sure if I'm being realistic in my price > expectations or if the sellers are overpricing. I already feel that > Elecraft gear prices are a premium but have been willing to pay the > NIB prices to support a local US company. > > Jerry Moore > CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists > AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324 > http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB > An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, > and Patriotic. > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Jerry,
I agree with Bill. Not much to tinker with in a P3, you just connect it and use it -- unless you add the SVGA board. And, unlike my K3, the P3 is current production: So far as I know there is no P3s. 73, Phil W7OX On 5/25/16 8:22 AM, Nr4c wrote: > Jerry. It's only worth what you are willing to pay. > > Making sure you get the cables shouldn't be a big problem. Otherwise I've not heard of many (if any) issues with P3 units since its introduction. And there isn't much to "tinker" with. Elecraft gear is pretty solid and does seem to hold value well. If you think saving 20% will make it fit your budget I'd not hesitate to purchase. For a K3, that's a piece of change ( P3 + KXV3B = $900). > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On May 25, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Jerry Moore <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Is it realistic for used P3s to sell for 80% of retail value when they don't >> have a warranty, you don't know if they've been tinkered with, you don't >> know if they are 100%, and the possibility of not getting a cable or part >> that comes with it when you purchase NIB? >> >> I'm in the market for P3 but the prices being asked for used units are such >> I'm looking to just buy new. >> >> Just asking because I'm not sure if I'm being realistic in my price >> expectations or if the sellers are overpricing. I already feel that Elecraft >> gear prices are a premium but have been willing to pay the NIB prices to >> support a local US company. >> >> Jerry Moore >> CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists >> AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324 >> http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB >> An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and >> Patriotic. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On Wed, 2016-05-25 at 10:17 -0400, Jerry Moore wrote:
> Is it realistic for used P3s to sell for 80% of retail value when they > don't have a warranty, you don't know if they've been tinkered with, > you don't know if they are 100%, and the possibility of not getting a > cable or part that comes with it when you purchase NIB? Yes it is. I would have bought used as well, but the cost of a used item was so close to a new item, I decided to go new. The resale value of Elecraft equipment is about 10 to 15 percent higher than most other rigs... Which if you look at it from your point of view, buying used you will loose very little money if you decided to sell. Careful purchasing will net you a vary nice rig for less than new cost. It's your call if you want to take what inherent risks there are, in used purchases. I can say that I would trust the Elecraft crowd here a lot further than any other group though... All seem to be a decent sort, and all seem to be straight shooters. -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On Wed, 2016-05-25 at 11:57 -0400, Jerry Moore wrote:
> I'm a gamer so my keyboards are programmable. Why the P3 blocks > intelligent keyboards confuses me. I can't either... They had to go to extra work to make that happen, so it is not by accident. -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Thank you for your well thought out response.
-----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave Cole Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 12:55 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] {P3] resale value On Wed, 2016-05-25 at 10:17 -0400, Jerry Moore wrote: > Is it realistic for used P3s to sell for 80% of retail value when they > don't have a warranty, you don't know if they've been tinkered with, > you don't know if they are 100%, and the possibility of not getting a > cable or part that comes with it when you purchase NIB? Yes it is. I would have bought used as well, but the cost of a used item was so close to a new item, I decided to go new. The resale value of Elecraft equipment is about 10 to 15 percent higher than most other rigs... Which if you look at it from your point of view, buying used you will loose very little money if you decided to sell. Careful purchasing will net you a vary nice rig for less than new cost. It's your call if you want to take what inherent risks there are, in used purchases. I can say that I would trust the Elecraft crowd here a lot further than any other group though... All seem to be a decent sort, and all seem to be straight shooters. -- 73's, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) For software/hardware reviews see: http://www.nk7z.net ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On Wed,5/25/2016 7:17 AM, Jerry Moore wrote:
> I already feel that Elecraft gear prices are a premium but have been willing to pay the NIB prices to support a local US company. I see it a bit differently. Elecraft products are built, designed, and supported by people in the US, all paid US wages. Unlike Apple, whose products are mfd in China, by people who are paid far less. Elecraft products are sold direct from the factory to the user, eliminating markups by third party sellers, who typically add 20-40% to their cost. And when you call Elecraft for support, you're talking to a real technician at the factory who is a HAM, not someone in a call center reading from a script, and that person is also being paid US wages. As to resale value -- yes, I think hams often think their used stuff is worth a lot more than it is. I wouldn't pay more than about 75% of the current kit price for a used Elecraft product, whether it was factory built or not. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Amen!
I also feel I got a Premium product too and has been worth the price. I bought my K3 used and got about a 25% savings. I never felt that Elecraft support treated me any different than an original purchaser, that was a plus and helped lead me down road to the complete K-line purchase, plus KRC, and 2 XV's. Looking back, no regrets. I agree that the value of factory built is NIL. Mine was but since then as I added items it well may have been a kit as it has been apart so many times. K-Pod on order so it will be apart again for the power mod as soon as published. The screws may be worn out soon. Going to the refrigerator for another glass of Kool Aid..... 73, Bob K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR On 5/25/2016 1:47 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > On Wed,5/25/2016 7:17 AM, Jerry Moore wrote: >> I already feel that Elecraft gear prices are a premium but have been willing >> to pay the NIB prices to support a local US company. > > I see it a bit differently. Elecraft products are built, designed, and > supported by people in the US, all paid US wages. Unlike Apple, whose products > are mfd in China, by people who are paid far less. Elecraft products are sold > direct from the factory to the user, eliminating markups by third party > sellers, who typically add 20-40% to their cost. And when you call Elecraft > for support, you're talking to a real technician at the factory who is a HAM, > not someone in a call center reading from a script, and that person is also > being paid US wages. > > As to resale value -- yes, I think hams often think their used stuff is worth > a lot more than it is. I wouldn't pay more than about 75% of the current kit > price for a used Elecraft product, whether it was factory built or not. > > 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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