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[P3] screen freeze.

Larry - K2GN
I've had this happen 3 times over a 2 day period.

I'll be doing something, like my email or whatever, and when I get

back to the radio the screen on the P3 is frozen.

Never happens when I'm tuning or transmitting.

I have no idea what it may be.

 

Anybody else have this happen?

 

P3 is powered from K3,

RS232 is coming in via a microHAM 2R+.

All connection are tight.

de K2GN - Larry <mailto:[hidden email]>  - http://k2gn.com <http://k2gn.com/>


K3 S/N - 3278    P3 S/N - 51

 

 

 

 

 


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Re: [P3] screen freeze.

ab2tc
What do you need to do to correct the problem? Cycle power?

AB2TC - Knut

Larry - K2GN wrote
I've had this happen 3 times over a 2 day period.

I'll be doing something, like my email or whatever, and when I get

back to the radio the screen on the P3 is frozen.

Never happens when I'm tuning or transmitting.

I have no idea what it may be.

 

Anybody else have this happen?

 

P3 is powered from K3,

RS232 is coming in via a microHAM 2R+.

All connection are tight.

de K2GN - Larry <mailto:k2gn@k2gn.com>  - http://k2gn.com <http://k2gn.com/>


K3 S/N - 3278    P3 S/N - 51

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Re: [P3] screen freeze.

Alan Bloom-2
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Hi Larry,

What version of P3 firmware are you using?  There were some improvements
made to the RS-232 communications in beta version 00.31 and later.  I
believe 00.32 is now officially released on the FTP site:

http://www.elecraft.com/software/P3/elecraft_p3_software.htm

It should download automatically using P3 Utility.

73,

Alan N1AL


On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 16:00 -0400, Larry - K2GN wrote:

> I've had this happen 3 times over a 2 day period.
>
> I'll be doing something, like my email or whatever, and when I get
>
> back to the radio the screen on the P3 is frozen.
>
> Never happens when I'm tuning or transmitting.
>
> I have no idea what it may be.
>
>  
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> Anybody else have this happen?
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>  
>
> P3 is powered from K3,
>
> RS232 is coming in via a microHAM 2R+.
>
> All connection are tight.
>
> de K2GN - Larry <mailto:[hidden email]>  - http://k2gn.com <http://k2gn.com/>
>
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> K3 S/N - 3278    P3 S/N - 51
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Re: [P3] screen freeze.

John Klewer
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Is there an ETA for the P3 update utility for MAC users?


John




On Thu Aug 19 14:39 , Alan Bloom  sent:

>Hi Larry,
>
>What version of P3 firmware are you using?  There were some improvements
>made to the RS-232 communications in beta version 00.31 and later.  I
>believe 00.32 is now officially released on the FTP site:
>
>http://www.elecraft.com/software/P3/elecraft_p3_software.htm
>
>It should download automatically using P3 Utility.
>
>73,
>
>Alan N1AL
>
>
>On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 16:00 -0400, Larry - K2GN wrote:
>> I've had this happen 3 times over a 2 day period.
>>
>> I'll be doing something, like my email or whatever, and when I get
>>
>> back to the radio the screen on the P3 is frozen.
>>
>> Never happens when I'm tuning or transmitting.
>>
>> I have no idea what it may be.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Anybody else have this happen?
>>
>>  
>>
>> P3 is powered from K3,
>>
>> RS232 is coming in via a microHAM 2R+.
>>
>> All connection are tight.
>>
>> de K2GN - Larry [hidden email]>  - http://k2gn.com http://k2gn.com/>
>>
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>> K3 S/N - 3278    P3 S/N - 51
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>>  
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Re: [P3] screen freeze.

Larry - K2GN
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To answer everyone that responded

I'm  using .031.
A power off/on brings it back to life.
It stops when I transmit, but only while I transmit.
de K2GN - Larry - http://k2gn.com
K3 S/N - 3278    P3 S/N - 51


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Re: [P3] screen freeze.

Larry - K2GN
Well, it's still doing the freeze.
I have found it in the "freeze" state 4 times while I'm not operating,
This remains a big mystery.
I've also had it freeze up while Txing  3 times.  Obviously RF.
Conditions:
P3 on left side of K3, powered off the K3.
Using supplied cables.
FW - 00.32    K3 FW - 04.05
My plan of attack is:
1. power P3 from external supply.
2. put ferrites on the K3/P3 cables.  All the other cables already have
them.
3. If the condition is still there, move P3 to right of K3.
4. If the condition is still there, PUNT!!! (Any ideas??)

de K2GN - Larry - http://k2gn.com
K3 S/N - 3278    P3 S/N - 51





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To answer everyone that responded

I'm  using .031.
A power off/on brings it back to life.
It stops when I transmit, but only while I transmit.
de K2GN - Larry - http://k2gn.com
K3 S/N - 3278    P3 S/N - 51


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Re: [P3] screen freeze.

Bruce Beford-2
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Hi Larry. My comments in-line, below:

Larry, K2GN wrote:
> Well, it's still doing the freeze.
> I have found it in the "freeze" state 4 times while I'm not operating,
> This remains a big mystery.

Indeed. If it is locking up while you are not operating (i.e. transmitting)
then that rules out an RF-induced problem. Has the PC been connected/on, or
has it locked up without the PC connected?

> I've also had it freeze up while Txing  3 times.  Obviously RF.

Maybe. Since you stated above that it has happened when not TX, maybe not an
RFI issue. Maybe coincidence.

> Conditions:
> P3 on left side of K3, powered off the K3.
> Using supplied cables.
> FW - 00.32    K3 FW - 04.05

I am running the same setup here, except I updated to beta P3 FW 0.33
yesterday. I have never had a lockup.

> My plan of attack is:
> 1. power P3 from external supply.

A good next step, in case you have an intermittent problem with the DC out
system on the K3.

> 2. put ferrites on the K3/P3 cables.  All the other cables already have
them.

If it happens without TXing, I don't see how this may help, but who can say?

> 3. If the condition is still there, move P3 to right of K3.

This sounds like voodoo to me 8-)

4. If the condition is still there, PUNT!!! (Any ideas??)

You may possibly have a problem on the main board of the P3. Perhaps there
is a problem with the DC-DC converters, and either your 5V or 3.3v is
dropping out, causing the MPU to lock-up. I would suggest running the P3
completely disconnected from anything but DC power. Just let it idle, with
baseline noise being displayed. If it happens again, you can be pretty sure
the fault is internal to the P3.

GL,
Bruce N1RX
K3 s/n 559 P3 s/n 97



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Re: [P3] screen freeze.

Jim Brown-10
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:49:35 -0400, Larry - K2GN wrote:

>Well, it's still doing the freeze.

I had this problem and fixed it (I think) by bonding the chassis of the
computer to the chassis of the K3 with a short length of #10 copper. I
suspect a Pin 1 Problem at one of the RS232 connectors involved (there
are four -- computer, P3, P3, and K3).

73, Jim K9YC



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