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Re: P3SVGA - Coming soon

Matt Zilmer
A bigger monitor isn't just bigger;  with the P3VGA the user gets
higher resolution and more detail to work with.  And for reasons too
numerous to mention, the P3 represents a nearly perfect complementary
visual aid to the K3 (and soon, the KX3).  And in this case, at least
to some, size does matter because with size comes better usability.
Fred metioned a few of the key use cases, but there are dozens
(probably).

73,
matt W6NIA

==

On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:23:33 -0800, you wrote:

>Well ... the P3 is self-contained.  I bought mine as a toy ...
>
>I suppose a bigger monitor has it's value, I don't have room for one.
>But to write-off the entire P3 over the VGA output seems a little harsh.
>  It has added a lot of value I didn't expect to my operating.
>
>73,
>
>Fred K6DGW
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>
>On 12/18/2011 12:03 PM, Gary VK4FD wrote:
>
>> I agree. Sharing a screen with say N1MM for example would work for
>> me. Having it just swallow the screen is of no interest to me either
>> and the P3 will remain OFF  my shopping list.
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Re: P3SVGA - Coming soon

Nate Bargmann
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Absolutely agreed, Fred.  I have put the P3 to use in each scenario
you've listed.  I have found a "down" side, if you will.  I have noticed
issues with signals and have helped a couple of ops identify and resolve
a problem.  It takes a bit of tact to tell someone of a problem they are
probably not aware of.  However, the P3 utility's feature of taking a
screenshot has proven quite useful.

I, for one, want to put out the best signal I can and when I can help
others do the same, the P3 has proven its value to me.  It remains to be
seen if the SVGA adapter is something I'll decide to get down the road.

73, de Nate N0NB >>

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Re: P3SVGA - Coming soon

k6dgw
Yes, one in particular ... WWV :-)  I still cannot explain what appear
to be harmonics of the audio tones at levels I sure didn't expect.  I
corresponded with someone at the station, he said they are sine waves
derived from the cesium standards, asked for a photo, and thanks to the
P3 Utility, I sent him two, one at about 5 KHz span, and one zeroed in
on the carrier which clearly shows the 100 Hz sub-carrier and the IRIG-H
time code modulation.  He assured me they were "on frequency" and I hope
I explained that that was *not* the issue.  I have yet to hear back.  If
anyone can explain what several of us see on the P3 when looking at WWV
at narrow spans, I'd sure like to know.  I'm baffled.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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On 12/18/2011 4:21 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote:

> I have found a "down" side, if you will.  I have noticed
> issues with signals and have helped a couple of ops identify and resolve
> a problem.  It takes a bit of tact to tell someone of a problem they are
> probably not aware of.  However, the P3 utility's feature of taking a
> screenshot has proven quite useful.
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Re: P3SVGA - Coming soon

w4ish
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I have had a monitor with this (1440 X 900) format sitting behind the K3 for the pst 6 months, waiting for the monitor upgrade.    The dark screen is waiting to be used!  I hope this is included (It is a 19" wide screen format… very popular!)
73
Bill
W4ISH
On Dec 17, 2011, at 7:05 PM, Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF [via Elecraft] wrote:

> 1440 x 900 seems to be a popular wide screen format too Eric, maybe that
> would be worthy of inclusion.
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Re: P3SVGA - Coming soon

Nate Bargmann
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I recall your thread, Fred.

As I've used Fldigi to calibrate various rigs with its Freq analysis
mode, I too saw the effect.  I assumed that it was likely an artifact of
the soundcard or some such.  That it comes up on the P3 discounts that
assumption.  I don't have an explanation.  However, I'm reminded to take
a look with the P3 and Fldigi sometime to see how they correspond.

73, de Nate N0NB >>

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Re: P3SVGA - Coming soon

Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy-3
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Morning Fred,

When you see what appear to be the harmonics of WWV's audio tones, have you
tried reducing the level of the signal reaching the K3 - P3 (e.g. by turning
on the K3's ATT)?  If ATT is switched ON, does the amplitude of each tone
harmonic seen decrease by the same amount (in db) as the tones themselves
and the carrier ?

This test would help to narrow the search for the source of tones'
harmonics, i.e. at WWV, or between WWV and your K3's attenuator, or
somewhere after your K3's attenuator.

Up to the time when I had some useful antennas, July 2011, I cannot recall
seeing any harmonic of WWV's tones when using WWV or WWVH to check the
frequency calibration of my Perseus SDR, even when WWV's carrier level was a
good S9 or higher.

Best wishes for Christmas, and a Happy New Year when it comes.

73,

Geoff
LX2AO


On December 19, 2011 1:30 AM, Fred Jensen wrote:


> Yes, one in particular ... WWV :-)  I still cannot explain what appear
> to be harmonics of the audio tones at levels I sure didn't expect.  I
> corresponded with someone at the station, he said they are sine waves
> derived from the cesium standards, asked for a photo, and thanks to the
> P3 Utility, I sent him two, one at about 5 KHz span, and one zeroed in
> on the carrier which clearly shows the 100 Hz sub-carrier and the IRIG-H
> time code modulation.  He assured me they were "on frequency" and I hope
> I explained that that was *not* the issue.  I have yet to hear back.  If
> anyone can explain what several of us see on the P3 when looking at WWV
> at narrow spans, I'd sure like to know.  I'm baffled.

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Re: P3SVGA - Coming soon

k6dgw
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Hi all,

This discussion has gone off-list so photos can be exchanged.  If you're
interested in participating, drop me an email and I'll add you to the ad
hoc list.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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On 12/18/2011 7:14 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> I recall your thread, Fred.

The thread regarding how WWV looks on the P3
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