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I spy a USB socket and what appears to be an Ethernet socket above and below the VGA socket on this board... Pray tell, does the USB socket indicate the ability to plug a mouse/trackball in so as to enable "point and click" on the VGA screen and QSY the radio a la Flex? And what feature does the Ethernet socket provide? Would it be a telnet feed to an external port connected to a computer running Skimmer Server? Just being able to display a "big" representation of the P3 display on a monitor is like kissing my sister... Having the two above features would be like kissing Jennifer Aniston. And, as an operator who prefers entering contests "Un-assisted", the ability to map the mouse/trackball action in a "Picture in a Picture" capable monitor overlaid with my contest log display would extend the Jen Aniston alegory to having her hold my hand as she leads me into a room at the Sybaris hotel in Chicago... Enquiring minds want to know the feature set before clicking on the order blank. -lu-w4lt- K3 # 3192 ======================================Message: 13 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:00:54 -0800 From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <[hidden email]> Subject: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed We took a few lab pictures of our P3 SVGA display this week. See: http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm#p3svga <http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm> <http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm <http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm> > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Aw shucks Lu......
A fella can dream eh? Grinning bigger and bigger.....:-) Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile Elecraft Equipment K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 Living the dream!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Luis V. Romero To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon Well, now: I spy a USB socket and what appears to be an Ethernet socket above and below the VGA socket on this board... Pray tell, does the USB socket indicate the ability to plug a mouse/trackball in so as to enable "point and click" on the VGA screen and QSY the radio a la Flex? And what feature does the Ethernet socket provide? Would it be a telnet feed to an external port connected to a computer running Skimmer Server? Just being able to display a "big" representation of the P3 display on a monitor is like kissing my sister... Having the two above features would be like kissing Jennifer Aniston. And, as an operator who prefers entering contests "Un-assisted", the ability to map the mouse/trackball action in a "Picture in a Picture" capable monitor overlaid with my contest log display would extend the Jen Aniston alegory to having her hold my hand as she leads me into a room at the Sybaris hotel in Chicago... Enquiring minds want to know the feature set before clicking on the order blank. -lu-w4lt- K3 # 3192 ======================================Message: 13 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:00:54 -0800 From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <[hidden email]> Subject: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed We took a few lab pictures of our P3 SVGA display this week. See: http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm#p3svga <http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm> <http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm <http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm> > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I dream big, Gary!
> -----Original Message----- > From: Gary VK4FD [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 11:33 PM > To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon > > Aw shucks Lu...... > > A fella can dream eh? > > Grinning bigger and bigger.....:-) > > Gary > > > VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile > Elecraft Equipment > K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 > Living the dream!!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Luis V. Romero <mailto:[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 2:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon > > Well, now: > > I spy a USB socket and what appears to be an Ethernet > socket above and below > the VGA socket on this board... > > Pray tell, does the USB socket indicate the ability to plug a > mouse/trackball in so as to enable "point and click" on > the VGA screen and > QSY the radio a la Flex? > > And what feature does the Ethernet socket provide? > Would it be a telnet feed > to an external port connected to a computer running > Skimmer Server? > > Just being able to display a "big" representation of > the P3 display on a > monitor is like kissing my sister... Having the two > above features would be > like kissing Jennifer Aniston. > > And, as an operator who prefers entering contests > "Un-assisted", the ability > to map the mouse/trackball action in a "Picture in a > Picture" capable > monitor overlaid with my contest log display would > extend the Jen Aniston > alegory to having her hold my hand as she leads me into a > > room at the Sybaris hotel in Chicago... > > Enquiring minds want to know the feature set before > clicking on the order > blank. > > -lu-w4lt- > > K3 # 3192 > > ======================================Message: 13 > > Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:00:54 -0800 > > From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <[hidden email]> > > Subject: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon > > To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> > > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > We took a few lab pictures of our P3 SVGA display this week. > > See: > > http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm#p3svga > <http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm> > > > <http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm > <http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm> > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Well, if these connectors match up to the unused cutouts in the
existing P3 rear panel, these may be the jacks marked "keyboard", "ext. display" and "aux. data" with "sensor" remaining empty. Or maybe not. Bob NW8L >Well, now: > >I spy a USB socket and what appears to be an Ethernet socket above and below >the VGA socket on this board... ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I just bought a 19” Widescreen, ASUS VW199, to use with my P3 and it has maximum 1440*900. So I vote for 1440*900 resolution.
Merry Christmas and a Happy new Year from Jan SM5FQQ PS Also looking forward to a TX-monitor function like the Telepostinc LP-500 Digital Station Monitor DS
Elecraft K3 #2054, Butternut HF9V
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Eric,
Could you please consider 1920x1200 to accommodate 16:10 (more upmarket) widescreens? 1024x768 = 4:3 = XGA 1280x1024 = 5:4 = SXGA 1920x1080 = 16:9 = HD 1920x1200 = 16:10 = WUXGA PE8E, Ron. > ------------------------------ > We are currently supporting 1024x768, 1280x1024 for the square formats, and 1920x1080 wide screen. 1920x1080 is by far the dominant wide screen format on new screens. (We just did a recent survey of what was > available at Best Buy, Staples etc.) I'm amazed how low the cost has gotten for the 1920x1080 screens. > > Each screen resolution requires a different FPGA design load from local flash on the SVGA card. We may add at least one or two more wide formats below 1920x1080 with new f/w updates after initial release. What are the most popular wide screen resolutions in that range? > > Regards, > Eric > > ------------------------------ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Eric,
Could you please consider 1920x1200 to accommodate 16:10 (more upmarket) widescreens? 1024x768 = 4:3 = XGA 1280x1024 = 5:4 = SXGA 1920x1080 = 16:9 = HD 1920x1200 = 16:10 = WUXGA PE8E, Ron. > ------------------------------ > We are currently supporting 1024x768, 1280x1024 for the square formats, and 1920x1080 wide screen. 1920x1080 is by far the dominant wide screen format on new screens. (We just did a recent survey of what was > available at Best Buy, Staples etc.) I'm amazed how low the cost has gotten for the 1920x1080 screens. > > Each screen resolution requires a different FPGA design load from local flash on the SVGA card. We may add at least one or two more wide formats below 1920x1080 with new f/w updates after initial release. What are the most popular wide screen resolutions in that range? > > Regards, > Eric > > ------------------------------ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I strongly second this plea!
Many of us who use a computer for tasks other than/in addition to radio use at least 24" screens w/rec. 1900x1200 format (WUXGA) I have still not seen an answer to my thread query "will the P3 windows be re-sizeable/moveable?" PLEASE do not stick us with fixed-size windows that fill the entire screen! John Ragle -- W1ZI ===== On 12/18/2011 7:40 AM, Ron - PE8E wrote: > Eric, > > Could you please consider 1920x1200 to accommodate 16:10 (more upmarket) > widescreens? > > 1024x768 = 4:3 = XGA > 1280x1024 = 5:4 = SXGA > > 1920x1080 = 16:9 = HD > 1920x1200 = 16:10 = WUXGA > > PE8E, Ron. > > >> ------------------------------ >> We are currently supporting 1024x768, 1280x1024 for the square formats, > and 1920x1080 wide screen. 1920x1080 is by far the dominant wide screen > format on new screens. (We just did a recent survey of what was >> available at Best Buy, Staples etc.) I'm amazed how low the cost has > gotten for the 1920x1080 screens. >> Each screen resolution requires a different FPGA design load from local > flash on the SVGA card. We may add at least one or two more wide formats > below 1920x1080 with new f/w updates after initial release. What are > the most popular wide screen resolutions in that range? >> Regards, >> Eric >> >> ------------------------------ > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > -- Sent from my lovely old Dell XPS 420 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Please add:
1366 x 768 (resolution of smaller HD ready TVs) 73 Arie PA3A ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hi, John.
The P3SVGA has it's own output connector, to connect directly to a monitor. It will not share the display with anything else, like your PC (unless some external hardware is used to accomplish this). It is designed to use it's own dedicated monitor. (In other words, filling the entire screen). 73, Bruce, N1RX > I have still not seen an answer to my thread query "will the P3 windows > be re-sizeable/moveable?" PLEASE do not stick us with fixed-size windows > that fill the entire screen! > John Ragle -- W1ZI ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Based on 2 responses to my query about the P3 display, I would have to
say this is an absolute design disaster. It kills completely my interest in the product. I had envisioned a hardware card that would communicate with software running on the PC, not something that required a dedicated monitor. I think the product needs some serious re-thinking. John Ragle -- W1ZI ===== On 12/18/2011 8:28 AM, Bruce Beford wrote: "Hi, John, the P3SVGA has it's own output connector, to connect directly to a monitor. It will not share the display with anything else, like your PC (unless some external hardware is used to accomplish this). It is designed to use it's own dedicated monitor. (In other words, filling the entire screen). 73, Bruce, N1RX" On 12/18/2011 9:09 AM, Jim McDonald wrote: "John, My understanding is that, similar to the Yaesu DMU-2000, this is not a computer application that uses a window. It requires a dedicated monitor or one that can be switch between the P3 and a computer using a switch in the monitor." ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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John,
I would not call it a "disaster". It simply works as expected! The P3 is a stand-alone pan-adapter which now gets a bigger screen, that's it. It is still self-contained, that's what the product is all about. If you want something linked to your computer go for an SDR-IQ (or similar solutions) on the K3's IF-out then you will have everything on your PC and can arrange the windows as you like. ;-)) 73, Olli - DH8BQA ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ragle" <[hidden email]> To: "Jim McDonald" <[hidden email]>; "elecraft" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon > Based on 2 responses to my query about the P3 display, I would have to > say this is an absolute design disaster. It kills completely my interest > in the product. I had envisioned a hardware card that would communicate > with software running on the PC, not something that required a dedicated > monitor. I think the product needs some serious re-thinking. > > John Ragle -- W1ZI > > ===== > > On 12/18/2011 8:28 AM, Bruce Beford wrote: > > "Hi, John, the P3SVGA has it's own output connector, to connect directly > to a monitor. It will not share the display with anything else, like > your PC (unless some external hardware is used to accomplish this). It > is designed to use it's own dedicated monitor. (In other words, filling > the entire screen). 73, Bruce, N1RX" > > On 12/18/2011 9:09 AM, Jim McDonald wrote: > > "John, My understanding is that, similar to the Yaesu DMU-2000, this is > not a computer application that uses a window. It requires a dedicated > monitor or one that can be switch between the P3 and a computer using a > switch in the monitor." > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ----- > eMail ist virenfrei. > Von AVG uberpruft - www.avg.de > Version: 10.0.1415 / Virendatenbank: 2108/4087 - Ausgabedatum: 17.12.2011 > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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"Design disaster" implies that it doesn't do what it was intended to do; it was obvious from the onset that this was an "HD" display adapter for the P3. This shouldn't be a big surprise, as the P3 is a self-contained panadapter and not a PC interface.
You might not be interested in it, but that in and of itself does make it a "disaster". Mike Alexander - N8MSA [hidden email] ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ragle" <[hidden email]> To: "Jim McDonald" <[hidden email]>, "elecraft" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 10:33:32 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon Based on 2 responses to my query about the P3 display, I would have to say this is an absolute design disaster. It kills completely my interest in the product. I had envisioned a hardware card that would communicate with software running on the PC, not something that required a dedicated monitor. I think the product needs some serious re-thinking. John Ragle -- W1ZI ===== On 12/18/2011 8:28 AM, Bruce Beford wrote: "Hi, John, the P3SVGA has it's own output connector, to connect directly to a monitor. It will not share the display with anything else, like your PC (unless some external hardware is used to accomplish this). It is designed to use it's own dedicated monitor. (In other words, filling the entire screen). 73, Bruce, N1RX" On 12/18/2011 9:09 AM, Jim McDonald wrote: "John, My understanding is that, similar to the Yaesu DMU-2000, this is not a computer application that uses a window. It requires a dedicated monitor or one that can be switch between the P3 and a computer using a switch in the monitor." ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Agreed. A used 15" LCD screen can be had on eBay for less than 50 bucks,
I think I can rearrange things to make room for that. I think Elecraft has given us exactly what they said they would, and I would like to thank them for providing it. It is extremely apparent from this thread that no matter what Elecraft creates, somebody somewhere isn't going to be satisfied. Complaining about supporting 1920 x 1080 but not 1920 x 1200? I guess we should all be thankful at this time of year that resolution is the biggest issue that keeps us awake at night. 73, Happy Holidays, Dennis NJ6G On 12/18/2011 7:56 AM, Oliver Dröse wrote: > John, > > I would not call it a "disaster". It simply works as expected! The P3 is a > stand-alone pan-adapter which now gets a bigger screen, that's it. It is > still self-contained, that's what the product is all about. If you want > something linked to your computer go for an SDR-IQ (or similar solutions) on > the K3's IF-out then you will have everything on your PC and can arrange the > windows as you like. ;-)) ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I would bet that only a very small minority of P3 users agree with you. If that's what you want, why didn't you buy a product that does exactly that? I can think of at least three that work well. Dave AB7E On 12/18/2011 8:33 AM, John Ragle wrote: > Based on 2 responses to my query about the P3 display, I would have to > say this is an absolute design disaster. It kills completely my interest > in the product. I had envisioned a hardware card that would communicate > with software running on the PC, not something that required a dedicated > monitor. I think the product needs some serious re-thinking. > > John Ragle -- W1ZI > > ===== > > On 12/18/2011 8:28 AM, Bruce Beford wrote: > > "Hi, John, the P3SVGA has it's own output connector, to connect directly > to a monitor. It will not share the display with anything else, like > your PC (unless some external hardware is used to accomplish this). It > is designed to use it's own dedicated monitor. (In other words, filling > the entire screen). 73, Bruce, N1RX" > > On 12/18/2011 9:09 AM, Jim McDonald wrote: > > "John, My understanding is that, similar to the Yaesu DMU-2000, this is > not a computer application that uses a window. It requires a dedicated > monitor or one that can be switch between the P3 and a computer using a > switch in the monitor." > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post:mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Yes, "design disaster" is not a fitting or justified complaint. It would be better to say that it was one person's view of a "marketing disaster" -- that is, building a product that works perfectly but it is not what the "market" wants.
In this case, I would say that it was not a marketing disaster either but one of misunderstanding on the part of the complainer about the "product". Reminds me of a little story. Back in 1970 I worked in the billing office of a Volkswagen dealership. My job was to total up the repair bills based on the things that the shop did to repair a car. The paper work of course included the customer's complaint. I laughed out loud when I processed one bill for the repair of a brand new, VW Bug. The customer complained of "noise". The bill was zero -- no charge because nothing done. The shop foreman had written on the paperwork a message to the customer "If you want a quiet car, buy a Ford LTD". And, as a good employee of the company, I did not edit or censure that comment but left it for the customer to read. On Dec 18, 2011, at 8:26 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > "Design disaster" implies that it doesn't do what it was intended to do; it was obvious from the onset that this was an "HD" display adapter for the P3. This shouldn't be a big surprise, as the P3 is a self-contained panadapter and not a PC interface. > > You might not be interested in it, but that in and of itself does make it a "disaster". > > > Mike Alexander - N8MSA > > [hidden email] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Ragle" <[hidden email]> > To: "Jim McDonald" <[hidden email]>, "elecraft" <[hidden email]> > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 10:33:32 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon > > Based on 2 responses to my query about the P3 display, I would have to > say this is an absolute design disaster. It kills completely my interest > in the product. I had envisioned a hardware card that would communicate > with software running on the PC, not something that required a dedicated > monitor. I think the product needs some serious re-thinking. > > John Ragle -- W1ZI > > ===== > > On 12/18/2011 8:28 AM, Bruce Beford wrote: > > "Hi, John, the P3SVGA has it's own output connector, to connect directly > to a monitor. It will not share the display with anything else, like > your PC (unless some external hardware is used to accomplish this). It > is designed to use it's own dedicated monitor. (In other words, filling > the entire screen). 73, Bruce, N1RX" > > On 12/18/2011 9:09 AM, Jim McDonald wrote: > > "John, My understanding is that, similar to the Yaesu DMU-2000, this is > not a computer application that uses a window. It requires a dedicated > monitor or one that can be switch between the P3 and a computer using a > switch in the monitor." > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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> We took a few lab pictures of our P3 SVGA display this week. On a visit to Elecraft a few weeks ago, I was treated to a view of this in the flesh, and it's a stunner. So far, I'm not sure what I would do with it -- the P3 does what I think I need. On the other hand, like Steve Jobs, Eric and Wayne have a way of figuring out what we need before we know we need it. :) 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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John,
I agree. Sharing a screen with say N1MM for example would work for me. Having it just swallow the screen is of no interest to me either and the P3 will remain OFF my shopping list. 73 Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile Elecraft Equipment K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 Living the dream!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: John Ragle To: Jim McDonald ; elecraft Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:33 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon Based on 2 responses to my query about the P3 display, I would have to say this is an absolute design disaster. It kills completely my interest in the product. I had envisioned a hardware card that would communicate with software running on the PC, not something that required a dedicated monitor. I think the product needs some serious re-thinking. John Ragle -- W1ZI ===== On 12/18/2011 8:28 AM, Bruce Beford wrote: "Hi, John, the P3SVGA has it's own output connector, to connect directly to a monitor. It will not share the display with anything else, like your PC (unless some external hardware is used to accomplish this). It is designed to use it's own dedicated monitor. (In other words, filling the entire screen). 73, Bruce, N1RX" On 12/18/2011 9:09 AM, Jim McDonald wrote: "John, My understanding is that, similar to the Yaesu DMU-2000, this is not a computer application that uses a window. It requires a dedicated monitor or one that can be switch between the P3 and a computer using a switch in the monitor." ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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To all you whiners out there bring some cheese. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by Gary Gregory
Well ... the P3 is self-contained. I bought mine as a toy ... Andrea
had been spending a lot on her hobby [needlepoint, about as expensive as ham radio], and my radio-account balance was making it into 4-digits. We have an equal-hobby allowance policy. What I found was that it is way more than a toy. 3 examples, there are more: 1. Go split, put VFO A on DX, see pileup, put VFO B somewhere on pile, pile disappears, DX replies to someone .... now, watch pile area. If you're even slightly lucky, exactly one signal will appear. Put VFO B on him, at the DX's "TU", call. It's almost too easy. So far, it has changed DXing for me, but of course with my DXCC totals, practically all of them are new ones. :-) 2. CQ rate in a contest falls unacceptably low, decide to S&P, just watch the screen for signals and pick them off rather than tune down the band ever so slowly, much of which will be dead at any given time as you pass it. 3. Looking for a CQ frequency? They easily show up on the screen. Put marker on it, tap SELECT, and you're there. I suppose a bigger monitor has it's value, I don't have room for one. But to write-off the entire P3 over the VGA output seems a little harsh. It has added a lot of value I didn't expect to my operating. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 - www.cqp.org On 12/18/2011 12:03 PM, Gary VK4FD wrote: > I agree. Sharing a screen with say N1MM for example would work for > me. Having it just swallow the screen is of no interest to me either > and the P3 will remain OFF my shopping list. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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