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Ai4PF
Hello all: Getting ready to set up PSK31 on my K3  following the operating tips outlined by Wayne. He states: "It is usually best to use a second sound card for...digital modes". Is he referring to something like Tigertronics?


73

Bill, Ai4PF
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Re: PSK 31

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Re: PSK 31

Keith Heimbold
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I use a MicroHam microkeyer 2 with my K3 and have a Microham USB 3 for my FT920. Both work great! Very nice products.

Keith
AK6ZZ

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On Jul 26, 2013, at 9:06 PM, "william wade" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello all: Getting ready to set up PSK31 on my K3  following the operating tips outlined by Wayne. He states: "It is usually best to use a second sound card for...digital modes". Is he referring to something like Tigertronics?
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Re: PSK 31

Rick WA6NHC
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First let's explain what Wayne meant:  If you use a secondary sound
card/device, you won't accidentally transmit an operating system sound (many
of which are musical).  You also won't have to constantly twiddle with
levels as you switch from OS to the radio.  And it allows you to have the
computer alert you to DX or whatever you have it set to do, without
transmitting that sound, while you're operating in a digital more (the
computer is quite capable of having two or more sound cards at the same
time).

I use a SignaLink (Tigertronics).  But there are far cheaper and expensive
options, including one I recently saw at another shack that cost a whopping
$5.78 after tax and shipping.  It failed from structural weakness (SMD
connector broke from the board, overstressed) but it did work before that.

So between $5 and whatever the fanciest device costs is what you'll pay.
They all work, but you'll likely want a little more quality than the
cheapest.

Jim Brown has done a study of several models and can list some potential
watchouts (poor bonding, pin one issues etc) so maybe he'll chime in here.

The bottom line (to me) is that you have a serious radio, you're building a
serious station, why diddle around with being cheap on a critical part, the
sound card by trying to multiuse the computer sound card.  That's like
putting retread tires on a sports car.  ;o)

73,

Rick wa6nhc

-----Original Message-----
From: william wade

Hello all: Getting ready to set up PSK31 on my K3  following the operating
tips outlined by Wayne. He states: "It is usually best to use a second sound
card for...digital modes". Is he referring to something like Tigertronics?


73

Bill, Ai4PF

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Re: PSK 31

Stephen M. Shearer
First, I have SignaLink and microHAM as interfaces between rig and computer.
I like microHAM because it also reads the rig mode and frequency without
needing a second USB port.  (I also have older microHAM units that need a
separate sound card port)
I patch direct (now) with my KX3 to the laptop.
I do PSK31 and low level modes like JT65.
Something to think about if you want to do the low level modes is how GOOD
is the sound card.  24 bit and 48K with >100db SNR would be good for JT65
(not required).
Keeping system sounds away from the rig is important.
I just purchased another sound card ~$25 (USB) for the laptop and JT65 so I
CAN also hear (system sounds) the announcements for JT65 Alerts when NEW
countries "pop" up...  Specs were weak but I am hoping it is 24 bit...
You CAN turn OFF all the system sounds and use a single sound port.  Useful
IF the computer is single use.

73, steve WB3LGC

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Rick Bates
Sent: 27 July, 2013 1:36 AM
To: 'william wade'; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PSK 31

First let's explain what Wayne meant:  If you use a secondary sound
card/device, you won't accidentally transmit an operating system sound (many
of which are musical).  You also won't have to constantly twiddle with
levels as you switch from OS to the radio.  And it allows you to have the
computer alert you to DX or whatever you have it set to do, without
transmitting that sound, while you're operating in a digital more (the
computer is quite capable of having two or more sound cards at the same
time).

I use a SignaLink (Tigertronics).  But there are far cheaper and expensive
options, including one I recently saw at another shack that cost a whopping
$5.78 after tax and shipping.  It failed from structural weakness (SMD
connector broke from the board, overstressed) but it did work before that.

So between $5 and whatever the fanciest device costs is what you'll pay.
They all work, but you'll likely want a little more quality than the
cheapest.

Jim Brown has done a study of several models and can list some potential
watchouts (poor bonding, pin one issues etc) so maybe he'll chime in here.

The bottom line (to me) is that you have a serious radio, you're building a
serious station, why diddle around with being cheap on a critical part, the
sound card by trying to multiuse the computer sound card.  That's like
putting retread tires on a sports car.  ;o)

73,

Rick wa6nhc

-----Original Message-----
From: william wade

Hello all: Getting ready to set up PSK31 on my K3  following the operating
tips outlined by Wayne. He states: "It is usually best to use a second sound
card for...digital modes". Is he referring to something like Tigertronics?


73

Bill, Ai4PF

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Re: PSK 31

Edward R Cole
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I recently downloaded FLdigi 3.21.72 to my XP32 computer and have my
K3/10 set up using the external emu0202 USB soundcard I bought
originally to go with my LP-Pan panadaptor (SDR).  The emu has manual
level controls which makes set up changes easy when going between different sw.

I also have M-Audio Delta-44 four port soundcard that I only use for
receive when doing diversity reception.  I has a card that installs
in the computer and interface unit which uses a sub-D15 cable.  The
Delta-44 is mainly used for dual-pol adaptive reception on 2m-eme.

I have the partially failed internal soundcard disabled.

I will be making a "maiden cruise" of psk-31 this evening for a sked
at 2200 AKDST (0600z) on 7070 KHz running 12w to an
inverted-V.  FLdigi seems to be working well on 14.070 in both psk-31
and CW.  (Yes, I know this non-std freq on 40m for psk-31).

73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: PSK 31

EricJ-2
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I was using the computer sound card temporarily for PSK31 and then JT65.
I bought a quality sound card emu 0204 for use with LP-PAN. I hooked it
up to try it for digital modes and the results were significant for weak
signals. I could dig 3-6 db further into the mud for weak signals with
the much better sound card. It didn't make much difference on strong
signals, but it brought in a whole lot more workable weak signals.

I now have a SignaLink as I needed the 0204 for the panadapter. I think
the 0204 still has a very slight edge, but I haven't really done any
extensive testing. Both are far better than what came with my Dell desktop.

I agree with your advice. You have a great receiver to pull out weak
signals. Now get something comparable to translate them. Get something
decent to begin with, then move on to something else to worry about.

Eric
KE6US
On 7/26/2013 10:35 PM, Rick Bates wrote:

>
> The bottom line (to me) is that you have a serious radio, you're building a
> serious station, why diddle around with being cheap on a critical part, the
> sound card by trying to multiuse the computer sound card.  That's like
> putting retread tires on a sports car.  ;o)
>
> 73,
>
> Rick wa6nhc
>

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