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Charlie - K0CKH

PX3 Future Upgrades?

I'm loving my PX3. It adds so much to the KX3 operation that I hate to be
without it when I take my KX3 portable while backpacking and hiking.

Wayne, Don or other Elecraft guys - can you comment on when we might see
the SVGA interface upgrade and the USB keyboard supported.

Also, any hope for USB mouse support for point and click frequency changes?

Thanks,

Charlie K0CKH
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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: PX3 Future Upgrades?

Charlie,

Thank you for naming me, but ---
In my part time repair position with Elecraft, I do not have insight
into such things as the plans for the future. I have to "wait and see"
just the same as everyone else.

Thank you for your compliments on my insights, but I have not been
granted an "inside track" for the future plans and schedules at Elecraft.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/8/2015 6:41 PM, Chas H wrote:
> I'm loving my PX3. It adds so much to the KX3 operation that I hate to be
> without it when I take my KX3 portable while backpacking and hiking.
>
> Wayne, Don or other Elecraft guys - can you comment on when we might see
> the SVGA interface upgrade and the USB keyboard supported.
>
> Also, any hope for USB mouse support for point and click frequency changes?
>
>

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Bill Frantz

Re: PX3 Future Upgrades?

When quizzed at RadioFest, Eric mentioned a few things about the
KX3. The one that stuck in my mind is that FixedMode is now in
alpha test. In its current state, you probably don't want it.
There will be a beta release RSN (Real Soon Now) as the gods of
bugs cooperate or don't cooperate.

While it may not be obvious from outside, progress is being made.

73 Bill AE6JV

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Bill Frantz

Re: PX3 Future Upgrades?

Oops make that PX3.

On 3/8/15 at 5:08 PM, [hidden email] (Bill Frantz) wrote:

>When quizzed at RadioFest, Eric mentioned a few things about
>the KX3. The one that stuck in my mind is that FixedMode is now
>in alpha test. In its current state, you probably don't want
>it. There will be a beta release RSN (Real Soon Now) as the
>gods of bugs cooperate or don't cooperate.
>
>While it may not be obvious from outside, progress is being made.

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Phil Wheeler-2

Re: PX3 Future Upgrades?

Yes, I'm eager for that one, Bill!

Phil W7OX

On 3/8/15 5:11 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:

> Oops make that PX3.
>
> On 3/8/15 at 5:08 PM, [hidden email]
> (Bill Frantz) wrote:
>
>> When quizzed at RadioFest, Eric mentioned a few
>> things about the KX3. The one that stuck in my
>> mind is that FixedMode is now in alpha test. In
>> its current state, you probably don't want it.
>> There will be a beta release RSN (Real Soon
>> Now) as the gods of bugs cooperate or don't
>> cooperate.
>>
>> While it may not be obvious from outside,
>> progress is being made.

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Stephen Shearer

Re: PX3 Future Upgrades?

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OK, I'll bite. I have heard a number of people talk about FixedMode.
What is it and WHY do I want it before KEYBOARD? I "think" I am happy
with the display now??
73, steve WB3LGC

On 08-Mar-15 8:08 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:

> When quizzed at RadioFest, Eric mentioned a few things about the KX3.
> The one that stuck in my mind is that FixedMode is now in alpha test.
> In its current state, you probably don't want it. There will be a beta
> release RSN (Real Soon Now) as the gods of bugs cooperate or don't
> cooperate.
>
> While it may not be obvious from outside, progress is being made.
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
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Bob N3MNT

Re: PX3 Future Upgrades?

In fixed-tune mode the frequencies on the PX3
display stay fixed as you tune VFO A. The VFO A
cursor moves across the screen instead of always
being at the same position, as it is in tracking mode.

Stephen Shearer

Re: PX3 Future Upgrades?

OK, thank you. I still don't see why I would use/want it.
I find (for me) what works great is to move the A/B cursor on the PX3 to
the signal I want and tap the knob to go there.
It seems to me with fixed mode I am still going to have to deal with
display edges when I scan to/past the edge (unless there is an automatic
new window).
I guess I can see that moving the A cursor over the spectrum, being able
to hear what you see and not having the display have to keep up with
changes ("bounce"), might be more what my friend would have liked during
the contest this weekend as we were also doing a radio demo for the cub
scouts.
But, I still would rather have a keyboard entry...

73, steve WB3LGC

On 08-Mar-15 9:41 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote:

> In fixed-tune mode the frequencies on the PX3
> display stay fixed as you tune VFO A. The VFO A
> cursor moves across the screen instead of always
> being at the same position, as it is in tracking mode.
>
>
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Phil Wheeler-2

Re: PX3 Future Upgrades?

With the P3 in Fixed-Tune mode you pick a span
(e.g., 50 kHz) and it will automatically move to
the next incremental span when you move there.

Likely Fixed-Tune will come first because a
field-test of the code was out to a limited number
of PX3 users several weeks ago. Hope so: Not my
style to carry a keyboard for use with a portable
transceiver, and my base station is usually my K3+.

Phil W7OX

On 3/8/15, 6:59 PM, steve wrote:

> OK, thank you. I still don't see why I would
> use/want it.
> I find (for me) what works great is to move the
> A/B cursor on the PX3 to the signal I want and
> tap the knob to go there.
> It seems to me with fixed mode I am still going
> to have to deal with display edges when I scan
> to/past the edge (unless there is an automatic
> new window).
> I guess I can see that moving the A cursor over
> the spectrum, being able to hear what you see
> and not having the display have to keep up with
> changes ("bounce"), might be more what my friend
> would have liked during the contest this weekend
> as we were also doing a radio demo for the cub
> scouts.
> But, I still would rather have a keyboard entry...
>
> 73, steve WB3LGC
>
> On 08-Mar-15 9:41 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote:
>> In fixed-tune mode the frequencies on the PX3
>> display stay fixed as you tune VFO A. The VFO A
>> cursor moves across the screen instead of always
>> being at the same position, as it is in
>> tracking mode.

tomb18

Re: PX3 Future Upgrades?

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It's also very good for working a pile up. You put the cursor on the left and you have the whole screen to the right for the pileup looking for holed. Without it you have 1/2 the screen.
Tom

On Mar 8, 2015 9:59 PM, steve <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> OK, thank you. I still don't see why I would use/want it.
> I find (for me) what works great is to move the A/B cursor on the PX3 to
> the signal I want and tap the knob to go there.
> It seems to me with fixed mode I am still going to have to deal with
> display edges when I scan to/past the edge (unless there is an automatic
> new window).
> I guess I can see that moving the A cursor over the spectrum, being able
> to hear what you see and not having the display have to keep up with
> changes ("bounce"), might be more what my friend would have liked during
> the contest this weekend as we were also doing a radio demo for the cub
> scouts.
> But, I still would rather have a keyboard entry...
>
> 73, steve WB3LGC
>
> On 08-Mar-15 9:41 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote:
> > In fixed-tune mode the frequencies on the PX3
> > display stay fixed as you tune VFO A. The VFO A
> > cursor moves across the screen instead of always
> > being at the same position, as it is in tracking mode.
> >
> >
> >
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Stephen Shearer

Re: PX3 Future Upgrades?

Yes, true and that "will" be nice for the PX3.
But I still want to plug the keyboard...

73, Steve WB3LGC

On 08-Mar-15 10:11 PM, Tom Blahovici wrote:
> It's also very good for working a pile up. You put the cursor on the left and you have the whole screen to the right for the pileup looking for holed. Without it you have 1/2 the screen.
> Tom
>
>

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On 3/8/2015 6:59 PM, steve wrote:
> OK, thank you. I still don't see why I would use/want it.
> I find (for me) what works great is to move the A/B cursor on the PX3 to
> the signal I want and tap the knob to go there.

Possible confusion here. The VFO A and B cursors are always there in
Fixed-Tune mode [B may be off-scale right or left but there's an arrow
to tell you which way it is]. They're where your VFO's are tuned, you
don't have to do anything to "go there," you're there. Marker A and B
are independent of this, you can turn them on or off, and if on and you
put Marker A on a signal and tap the knob, you'll QSY there.

> It seems to me with fixed mode I am still going to have to deal with
> display edges when I scan to/past the edge (unless there is an automatic
> new window).

Yes, there is a new window, you don't have to do anything except keep
tuning. On the P3 [and I'll bet the PX3 too when it is released], you
have a choice of two behaviors: If you tune off the end of the display,
you can set it to either give you the next full span, or the next
half-span [i.e. tuning down past the edge, you see the lower half of the
span you were on on the right and the upper half of the span you're
tuning into on the left]. I use the full span shift. I set my span and
centering so if I tune far enough down or up, the edge of the display
will be the band limit. YMMV

> I guess I can see that moving the A cursor over the spectrum, being able
> to hear what you see and not having the display have to keep up with
> changes ("bounce"), might be more what my friend would have liked during
> the contest this weekend as we were also doing a radio demo for the cub
> scouts.

That's the second advantage of Fixed-Tune, the averaging in the spectrum
plot remains constant until tuning past the end of the span. In tracking
mode, the averaging must restart whenever you tune ... 1 Hz or more.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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Bill Frantz

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The big advantage, at least on the P3, is that when you move the
tuning knob, you don't lose your signal averaging and waterfall
history. Keeping the waterfall makes it a lot easier to tune to
an infrequent signal, like the DX running a pileup.

I haven't tried a keyboard on the P3 since it doesn't support
hubs and all my spare keyboards are Apple keyboards with built
in hubs.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 3/8/15 at 6:59 PM, [hidden email] (steve) wrote:

>OK, thank you. I still don't see why I would use/want it.
>...
>But, I still would rather have a keyboard entry...

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Cady, Fred

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Even in the Fixed VFO -- Tuned Spectrum (Tracking?) mode you can set the center frequency so the VFO A is on the left side. But still the Fixed Spectrum -- Tuned VFO mode is the way to go.
Cheers,
Fred KE7X

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It's also very good for working a pile up. You put the cursor on the left and you have the whole screen to the right for the pileup looking for holed. Without it you have 1/2 the screen.
Tom

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Jim Brown-10

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On Sun,3/8/2015 8:02 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
> That's the second advantage of Fixed-Tune, the averaging in the
> spectrum plot remains constant until tuning past the end of the span.
> In tracking mode, the averaging must restart whenever you tune ... 1
> Hz or more.

THAT'S why Fixed Tune Mode is so critical. Averaging is what allows us
to pick weak signals out of the noise. Tuning, even very slightly,
resets the averaging, making it FAR less useful.

73, Jim K9YC
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