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k6dgw

Pigknob

If anyone has the Pigknob from Pignology, I'd like to talk about your
experience with it.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
- www.cqp.org

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W4SK

Re: Pigknob

Mee, too.

W4SK
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Subject: [Elecraft] Pigknob

> If anyone has the Pigknob from Pignology, I'd like to talk about your
> experience with it.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
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> - www.cqp.org
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Bill Clarke

Re: Pigknob

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Hopefully this will be discussed in the open with posts for all to read.
Too much gets discussed in private emails - doing nobody not privy to
said emails any favors.

I know this from experience!

Bill W2BLC

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Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT

Re: Pigknob

It's how the list is configured. "Reply" goes to the person who posted
the message, "Reply All" goes to the list.

None of my lists are configured that way, for precisely the reason you
mention -- too easy for interesting topics to die.

On 5/16/2013 5:27 PM, Bill wrote:

> Hopefully this will be discussed in the open with posts for all to
> read. Too much gets discussed in private emails - doing nobody not
> privy to said emails any favors.
>
> I know this from experience!
>
> Bill W2BLC
>
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k6dgw

Re: Pigknob

In this case, I got a direct reply from Nick, and I asked him some
questions direct. I'm sensitive to the traffic load on this list and
especially when it's about non-Elecraft products. If I see a few
requests like Bill's, and the discussion is still going on, I'll post it
to the list. I pretty much always post a summary of direct discussions
and resolutions to things I've asked on the list. I've forwarded the
conversation to date to Bill and will continue.

I don't have a KX3, but I joined the Yahoo KX3 group because I was
interested in a tiny aspect of the direct-conversion architecture.
Joining may have been a big misteak ... way more traffic about redundant
stuff than I really can go through. That one may soon head for the
Deleted Box automagically.

In my T-Bird, I can make the choice: Reply to Sender, Reply to All,
Reply to List. For Elecraft, that works. For others ... not so much.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
- www.cqp.org

On 5/16/2013 5:41 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:

> It's how the list is configured. "Reply" goes to the person who posted
> the message, "Reply All" goes to the list.
>
> None of my lists are configured that way, for precisely the reason you
> mention -- too easy for interesting topics to die.
>
> On 5/16/2013 5:27 PM, Bill wrote:
>> Hopefully this will be discussed in the open with posts for all to
>> read. Too much gets discussed in private emails - doing nobody not
>> privy to said emails any favors.
>>
>> I know this from experience!
>>
>> Bill W2BLC

k6dgw

Re: Pigknob

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On 5/16/2013 5:27 PM, Bill wrote:
> Hopefully this will be discussed in the open with posts for all to read.
> Too much gets discussed in private emails - doing nobody not privy to
> said emails any favors.

I ordered a Pigknob and the short cable and promised Bill I'd post a
review once I get it and have a chance to use it.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
- www.cqp.org

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AB1DD-2

Re: Pigknob

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Got a PigKnob yesterday. Works great! You can tune at one speed, push the knob and tune faster. This is all easily reprogrammed. The 8 buttons also can be easily reprogrammed with whatever you want. I set one to do a split 5 up, and another to normalize. The knob is smooth to tune, the whole thing is well made. The interfaces are on a separate board that can be mounted behind the K3,if you want, and there is just one small ribbon cable to the knob itself. The only issue I had was the piggy wanted to explore the table top, but 4 stick on rubber feet took care of that.
I'm happy!

73,
Carl
AB1DD

Resistance is futile.
(don't know about reactance, though)
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Nick Garner

Re: Pigknob

Something I discovered at Dayton is I probably shouldn't have called that
switched mode in the encoder Fast Tuning Mode. I should have called it
Alternate Tuning Mode or something similar.

I was asked several times, "Can I tune RIT with this?" After the third
person asked, we tried it. Every switch/function on the knob is
configurable including the commands that are sent when the encoder pulses.
The fast tuning mode is toggled on/off with a push of the knob to activate
the switch built into the encoder. We changed the fast clockwise command
to RIT Up (RU;) and the fast counter-clockwise command to RIT Down (RD;)
and then we configured one of the push buttons for RIT Clear (RC;). In one
tuning state VFO A would tune up/down, when the push button in the knob was
pressed to toggle to the alternate state, we could tune RIT up/down and at
anytime could push the RIT Clear button to reset the RIT offset.

73,
Nick

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:51 AM, AB1DD <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Got a PigKnob yesterday. Works great! You can tune at one speed, push the
> knob and tune faster. This is all easily reprogrammed. The 8 buttons also
> can be easily reprogrammed with whatever you want. I set one to do a split
> 5 up, and another to normalize. The knob is smooth to tune, the whole thing
> is well made. The interfaces are on a separate board that can be mounted
> behind the K3,if you want, and there is just one small ribbon cable to the
> knob itself. The only issue I had was the piggy wanted to explore the table
> top, but 4 stick on rubber feet took care of that.
> I'm happy!
>
> 73,
> Carl
> AB1DD
>
> Resistance is futile.
> (don't know about reactance, though)
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alsopb

Re: Pigknob

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I'll ask the group since the designer of PigKnob didn't reply when asked
several months ago.

Will it work with LBRIDGE and other apps sharing the K3?

73 DE Brian/K3KO

On 5/22/2013 11:51, AB1DD wrote:

> Got a PigKnob yesterday. Works great! You can tune at one speed, push the knob and tune faster. This is all easily reprogrammed. The 8 buttons also can be easily reprogrammed with whatever you want. I set one to do a split 5 up, and another to normalize. The knob is smooth to tune, the whole thing is well made. The interfaces are on a separate board that can be mounted behind the K3,if you want, and there is just one small ribbon cable to the knob itself. The only issue I had was the piggy wanted to explore the table top, but 4 stick on rubber feet took care of that.
> I'm happy!
>
> 73,
> Carl
> AB1DD
>
> Resistance is futile.
> (don't know about reactance, though)
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Nick Garner

Re: Pigknob

Hi Brian,
I replied to your email a couple hours later, on Feb 1st at 15:02 PST.
Perhaps it got filtered, there were quite a few emails in that thread and
the subject had [OT] in it.

Here are the relevant excerpts.
------
Original:
I'm trying to think of whether there would be any interaction with a K3
attached to LPBRIDGE. The LPBRIDGE creates up to 5 virtual serial ports
and it essentially runs K3 the via the one real RS232 port. It polls as
typically at 200 ms. The virtual ports are use by a logging program, the
SKIMMER decoder/or ROCKY panadapter, and separate digital mode program(s).
All must be run at the 38.4 baud rate.

I suppose, one would connect this device in the RS232 line. Would there be
a problem with this?
------
Reply:
The question about where to put the knob; I imagine it could either go into
another serial port that LP Bridge manages or in-line. If LP Bridge is
sending data that fast, there would be contention if the knob is interacted
with while LP Bridge was talking through the knob.
------

To add to that reply from back then, if the knob were connected in-line
with the computer and K3, as data comes into the knob from the computer, it
is immediately sent out the other port, byte for byte, unaltered. The same
occurs in the other direction, from radio to computer. If a button is
pushed on the knob, the entire text of that macro is immediately sent out
to the radio. If LP Bridge can use another physical port, then you could
connect the Knob's rig port to a physical port on the computer and let LP
Bridge manage the communication from knob to radio.

Please let me know if you have any further questions.

73,
Nick
N3WG

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Brian Alsop <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I'll ask the group since the designer of PigKnob didn't reply when asked
> several months ago.
>
> Will it work with LBRIDGE and other apps sharing the K3?
>
> 73 DE Brian/K3KO
>
>
> On 5/22/2013 11:51, AB1DD wrote:
>
>> Got a PigKnob yesterday. Works great! You can tune at one speed, push the
>> knob and tune faster. This is all easily reprogrammed. The 8 buttons also
>> can be easily reprogrammed with whatever you want. I set one to do a split
>> 5 up, and another to normalize. The knob is smooth to tune, the whole thing
>> is well made. The interfaces are on a separate board that can be mounted
>> behind the K3,if you want, and there is just one small ribbon cable to the
>> knob itself. The only issue I had was the piggy wanted to explore the table
>> top, but 4 stick on rubber feet took care of that.
>> I'm happy!
>>
>> 73,
>> Carl
>> AB1DD
>>
>> Resistance is futile.
>> (don't know about reactance, though)
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