Please recommend an HD monitor to use with P3SVGA

[Doug Hensley]

Subject says it all.  Looking for a clear recommendation for

a decent monitor that will last.  Also what is too small and

what is too big and so a waste of room?


One side of me tells me anything that will display text well

will display the P3 signal but another side tells me "Don't

assume !!).


Please respond in private if you'd like.


Thank you.


Doug W5JV




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[Dave Hachadorian-2]

I have a pair of P3's driving a pair of 23" diagonal measurement
monitors, running at 1440 x 900 resolution, which is the best
compromise of responsiveness and granularity.  I think that size
monitor is just about right, especially for displaying large
segments of the band.  For example, in a CW contest, I can
display about 40 KHz of the band, and still be able to easily
detect vacant spaces where I can slide in and start calling CQ.
Monitors of about that size are also the sweet spot in the
pricing right now.

Whatever you get, make sure it will run at 1440 x 900.  You will
probably have to download and read the owner's manual to make
sure.


Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ


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From: Doug Hensley
Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2016 1:06 PM
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Subject: [Elecraft] Please recommend an HD monitor to use with
P3SVGA

Subject says it all.  Looking for a clear recommendation for

a decent monitor that will last.  Also what is too small and

what is too big and so a waste of room?


One side of me tells me anything that will display text well

will display the P3 signal but another side tells me "Don't

assume !!).


Please respond in private if you'd like.


Thank you.


Doug W5JV




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[Gary Smith-2]

I have to say that I have been totally satisfied with my two AOC
monitors, don't recall the model but the one was for my computer and
it cost around 110 shipped. It's a 12V monitor and has its own quiet
switching supply like a laptop uses. Incredibly low power requirement
and it's great to look at. Then B&H had a sale and I bought its
bigger brother, the 27" E2752S for around $120. It too is ultra low
power draw, has an internal power supply, its been on all day and is
cool to the touch. I use the smaller 23" for the P3 and the larger
for the computer. I just felt all around both of them and there is no
warm spots at all.

Couldn't suggest a better monitor, these are perfect; Great picture
detail & color, not RFI inducing and far cheaper than any of the big
brands.

73,

Gary
KA1J

> Subject says it all.  Looking for a clear recommendation for
>
> a decent monitor that will last.  Also what is too small and
>
> what is too big and so a waste of room?
>
>
> One side of me tells me anything that will display text well
>
> will display the P3 signal but another side tells me "Don't
>
> assume !!).
>
>
> Please respond in private if you'd like.
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> Doug W5JV
>
>
>
>
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[Mike K2MK]

Hi Doug,

The problem with recommending a model number is that within a year of purchasing a monitor it is usually superceded by a different model. I do have some suggestions that you might not have considered.

Consider getting a monitor that can also serve as a second monitor for your PC. Most monitors today have multiple inputs. A few years ago that would have been SVGA and DVI. Later it became SVGA and HDMI. Now you might also find SVGA, DVI, and HDMI. But that's not the whole story. You want to make sure that you can change the monitor with a push-button at the bottom of the monitor. Some monitors require that you go into the monitor program settings. That would be much less convenient.

When I'm using the P3 I'll push the monitor button to go into SVGA. When the P3 is off the monitor automatically switches back to the DVI input thus acting as a secondary monitor output from my PC.

Typical 22" monitors can display the 1440 x 900 from the P3 quite nicely. Of my ASUS and ViewSonic low-cost monitors I prefer the ViewSonic. The colors are more realistic. The ASUS adjustments don't seem capable of getting the softer colors I'm interested in. My ViewSonic model number is VA2265smh. The ASUS is model number VS228H-P.

With two large monitors on a desk it's also worth considering adjustable monitor support arms. They let you situate the monitors for best viewing heights and angles without taking up valuable desk surface for your equipment.

73,
Mike K2MK

Doug Hensley wrote

Subject says it all.  Looking for a clear recommendation for

a decent monitor that will last.  Also what is too small and

what is too big and so a waste of room?

One side of me tells me anything that will display text well

will display the P3 signal but another side tells me "Don't

assume !!).

Please respond in private if you'd like.

Thank you.

Doug W5JV

[David Bunte]

I realize this is off the topic of which monitor to get, but multiple
monitors do take up more space.  The idea of mounting a monitor, or
monitors on arms does address the issue of desk space, but I decided
against that due to the cost issue, and those arms still need to be mounted
on something.

My solution was VERY much less expensive.  I made sure my monitors were
VESA mount capable.  I then mounted them to the wall directly in front of
me.  Yes, I put about three holes in the wall to mount an angle bracket to
the wall.  I then screwed another angled bracket to the back of each
monitor and they then 'hang' on the bracket that I attached to the wall.
The result is that the monitors are at the exact same height, and mine are
pushed together so they touch.

I know that no solution is perfect for every person or situation, but many
people who have seen pictures of my shack have asked how I got two monitors
to stay so perfectly aligned in relation to each other, and still have room
on my small desk for my K3, KPA500, P3 etc.

73 de Dave  K9FN

On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 5:27 AM, Mike K2MK <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>
> The problem with recommending a model number is that within a year of
> purchasing a monitor it is usually superceded by a different model. I do
> have some suggestions that you might not have considered.
>
> Consider getting a monitor that can also serve as a second monitor for your
> PC. Most monitors today have multiple inputs. A few years ago that would
> have been SVGA and DVI. Later it became SVGA and HDMI. Now you might also
> find SVGA, DVI, and HDMI. But that's not the whole story. You want to make
> sure that you can change the monitor with a push-button at the bottom of
> the
> monitor. Some monitors require that you go into the monitor program
> settings. That would be much less convenient.
>
> When I'm using the P3 I'll push the monitor button to go into SVGA. When
> the
> P3 is off the monitor automatically switches back to the DVI input thus
> acting as a secondary monitor output from my PC.
>
> Typical 22" monitors can display the 1440 x 900 from the P3 quite nicely.
> Of
> my ASUS and ViewSonic low-cost monitors I prefer the ViewSonic. The colors
> are more realistic. The ASUS adjustments don't seem capable of getting the
> softer colors I'm interested in. My ViewSonic model number is VA2265smh.
> The
> ASUS is model number VS228H-P.
>
> With two large monitors on a desk it's also worth considering adjustable
> monitor support arms. They let you situate the monitors for best viewing
> heights and angles without taking up valuable desk surface for your
> equipment.
>
> 73,
> Mike K2MK
>
>
>
> Doug Hensley wrote
> > Subject says it all.  Looking for a clear recommendation for
> >
> > a decent monitor that will last.  Also what is too small and
> >
> > what is too big and so a waste of room?
> >
> > One side of me tells me anything that will display text well
> >
> > will display the P3 signal but another side tells me "Don't
> >
> > assume !!).
> >
> > Please respond in private if you'd like.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Doug W5JV
>
>
>
>
>
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[Jim Brown-10]

On Mon,7/4/2016 2:27 AM, Mike K2MK wrote:
> The problem with recommending a model number is that within a year of
> purchasing a monitor it is usually superceded by a different model.

Yes. A year or two ago, I discovered a 24-in Samsung at Costco that runs
from a nominal 14VDC wall wart. It's an SMPS and noisy, but because it's
14VDC, it's easy to replace with a 12VDC linear wall wart or run from
your shack 12-14VDC power supply. To figure out what power the monitor
requires, study their spec sheet carefully and also blown-up photos of
the rear panel (you may need to get to the mfr website).

> With two large monitors on a desk it's also worth considering adjustable
> monitor support arms. They let you situate the monitors for best viewing
> heights and angles without taking up valuable desk surface for your
> equipment.

More great advice. I've found mounts like this at amazon. A double-arm
mount that clamps onto a horizontal surface and places monitors
side-by-side cost me about $70; another that places one above the other
about the same price. And there's a company called "monoprice" that
sells a single arm for about $50.

The tricky part about using these mounts is that they are designed to be
used with a monitor that accepts a VESA mounting plate. Not all monitors
have that (four screw threads at a certain spacing), but there's also a
"garage" operation that makes mounts that retrofit some models of
Samsung monitors. All found on the internet.

Another issue in choosing a monitor is RFI, which can be from the SMPS
wall wart, AND from the monitor itself. W4UAT gave me a different
Samsung model that had touch controls that had awful RFI problems -- his
TX made the monitor go huts, and it put out lots of RF noise that I
could not kill.

The Samsung monitors I bought are not completely clean, but can be made
clean enough that I can't hear them in my antennas by choking their
video and power cables.

73, Jim K9YC

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[Doug Turnbull]

Dear OMs and YLs,
     Oh happy days.   My K-Pod arrived this morning not bad for a trip
across the USA and Atlantic in four days.    I was blessed in that no VAT
(23% plus additional costs) was taken this time.   Life is good, thank you
Elecraft.   I have desired this Pod since first purchasing a K3 many years
ago.   After a while acceptance that there was never going to be a Pod sank
in and then this year Elecraft came through.

     There are other solutions but this is neat and small.    The memories
for CW and Voice can now be easily accessed without the finger hovering over
M1 or M2.   This was a pretty uncomfortable position.   It will even be
possible to kick back in the easy chair and tune the radio.   You guys are
good.

                         73 Doug EI2CN

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