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B.
Hi Folks,

 

I have been trying to find a way to "dump" or list out all the settings in
my K3s for the MENU options as well as the settings for the CONFIG options
without going through the front panel display and writing them all down.

 

The reason is to be able to make the same settings on another K3s, again
without having to sit and go through the settings one by one and write them
down. I did use the K3s utility to make a configuration file and saved it
but if I try to look at the file, I get what looks like gibberish and it is
not easily interpreted. Maybe there is another program that can make the
configuration file readable?

 

Am I missing an easy way to do this? Is there something I have not found in
the utility program that will do this? Is it possible to list the settings
at all, other than the front panel?

 

Thanks for the help.

73,

Bob

AD7Z

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Re: Possibly dumb question...

Byron Servies
You can use the K3 utility from Elecraft to save the configuration to a
file and load it to the second radio.  Perhaps that would do the trick.

73, Byron N6NUL

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 2:56 PM B. <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
>
>
> I have been trying to find a way to "dump" or list out all the settings in
> my K3s for the MENU options as well as the settings for the CONFIG options
> without going through the front panel display and writing them all down.
>
>
>
> The reason is to be able to make the same settings on another K3s, again
> without having to sit and go through the settings one by one and write them
> down. I did use the K3s utility to make a configuration file and saved it
> but if I try to look at the file, I get what looks like gibberish and it is
> not easily interpreted. Maybe there is another program that can make the
> configuration file readable?
>
>
>
> Am I missing an easy way to do this? Is there something I have not found in
> the utility program that will do this? Is it possible to list the settings
> at all, other than the front panel?
>
>
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> 73,
>
> Bob
>
> AD7Z
>
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Re: Possibly dumb question...

k6dgw
Sadly, I think the configuration files are keyed to the radio's serial
number.  I believe one reason for this is the modular nature of Elecraft
equipment, and attempting to load a config file that includes modules
the target radio does not would probably lead to problems and lots of
posts on this list. [:-)  Dick, of Elecraft Utility fame may be able to
expound more concisely on the subject.

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 3/31/2019 3:09 PM, Byron Servies wrote:

> You can use the K3 utility from Elecraft to save the configuration to a
> file and load it to the second radio.  Perhaps that would do the trick.
>
> 73, Byron N6NUL
>
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 2:56 PM B. <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have been trying to find a way to "dump" or list out all the settings in
>> my K3s for the MENU options as well as the settings for the CONFIG options
>> without going through the front panel display and writing them all down.
>>
>>
>>
>> The reason is to be able to make the same settings on another K3s, again
>> without having to sit and go through the settings one by one and write them
>> down. I did use the K3s utility to make a configuration file and saved it
>> but if I try to look at the file, I get what looks like gibberish and it is
>> not easily interpreted. Maybe there is another program that can make the
>> configuration file readable?
>>
>>
>>
>> Am I missing an easy way to do this? Is there something I have not found in
>> the utility program that will do this? Is it possible to list the settings
>> at all, other than the front panel?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the help.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> AD7Z
>>

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Re: Possibly dumb question...

N7US
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VA2FSQ's Win4K3Suite can do that.  https://va2fsq.com/ 

Jim N7US

-----Original Message-----


Hi Folks,

 
I have been trying to find a way to "dump" or list out all the settings in
my K3s for the MENU options as well as the settings for the CONFIG options
without going through the front panel display and writing them all down.

The reason is to be able to make the same settings on another K3s, again
without having to sit and go through the settings one by one and write them
down. I did use the K3s utility to make a configuration file and saved it
but if I try to look at the file, I get what looks like gibberish and it is
not easily interpreted. Maybe there is another program that can make the
configuration file readable?

Am I missing an easy way to do this? Is there something I have not found in
the utility program that will do this? Is it possible to list the settings
at all, other than the front panel?

Thanks for the help.

73,

Bob

AD7Z

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Re: Possibly dumb question...

Bill-3
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When in doubt, carefully done notes with lots of comments - kept in a
notebook - does wonders. Not only does it give you a backup, it gives
you explanations of why you did what.

Bill W2BLC


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Re: Possibly dumb question...

Mark Musick
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Don't hold me to this, but I believe there is a way to do it if you have Win4K3Suite.
Win4K3Suite can read the menu settings from a K3. Not the gain and compensation values, but the menu items we would typically like to have in more than one radio like RX EQ, TX EQ, AGC SLP, AGC THR etc.
Win4K3Suite allows you to save those settings to a file to be reloaded into the K3 later. Once you have saved the menu settings, I would think you could shut down Win4K3Suite, disconnect the USB cable from K3 number one and connect it to the second K3, bring Win4K3Suite back up and load that menu settings file to the second K3. Then save the configuration of the second K3.
I do have Win4K3Suite. I have not tried this. But it would be interesting to try.
I'm sure someone more knowledgeable than me will be able to shoot a hole in my theory.
Tom, the author of Win4K3Suite probably can give us the answer off the top of his head.

Mark Musick, WB9CIF

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Walter Underwood
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 23:08
To: Elecraft mail list <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Possibly dumb question...

The config file includes compensation values for the devices in a specific radio. Loading it into a different radio would mean a serious realignment for that radio.

This is a huge hole in the Elecraft utilities. It should be possible to save, load, and share the menu settings. I’ve lost count of the times someone has asked how to reset the rig to defaults and I’ve had to say “Sorry, can’t do it.”

Even better, think about a checklist for which values you would save or load. Someone could share a file with TX EQ and compression settings, for example. Then separately, share AGC settings.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
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http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Mar 31, 2019, at 3:36 PM, Fred Jensen <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Sadly, I think the configuration files are keyed to the radio's serial number.  I believe one reason for this is the modular nature of Elecraft equipment, and attempting to load a config file that includes modules the target radio does not would probably lead to problems and lots of posts on this list. [:-)  Dick, of Elecraft Utility fame may be able to expound more concisely on the subject.
>
> 73,
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
> On 3/31/2019 3:09 PM, Byron Servies wrote:
>> You can use the K3 utility from Elecraft to save the configuration to
>> a file and load it to the second radio.  Perhaps that would do the trick.
>>
>> 73, Byron N6NUL
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 2:56 PM B. <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have been trying to find a way to "dump" or list out all the
>>> settings in my K3s for the MENU options as well as the settings for
>>> the CONFIG options without going through the front panel display and writing them all down.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The reason is to be able to make the same settings on another K3s,
>>> again without having to sit and go through the settings one by one
>>> and write them down. I did use the K3s utility to make a
>>> configuration file and saved it but if I try to look at the file, I
>>> get what looks like gibberish and it is not easily interpreted.
>>> Maybe there is another program that can make the configuration file readable?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am I missing an easy way to do this? Is there something I have not
>>> found in the utility program that will do this? Is it possible to
>>> list the settings at all, other than the front panel?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> AD7Z
>>>
>
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Re: Possibly dumb question...

Mark Musick
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Well, wait long enough or take to long thinking about it and someone who really knows the answer I gave will pop in and say "Yes, you can do that" before you do. HI
Thanks Jim.
I was pretty sure we could do that with Win4K3Suite.
Have you done it?

Mark, WB9CIF

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Jim N7US
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 22:54
To: 'B.' <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Possibly dumb question...

VA2FSQ's Win4K3Suite can do that.  https://va2fsq.com/ 

Jim N7US

-----Original Message-----


Hi Folks,

 
I have been trying to find a way to "dump" or list out all the settings in my K3s for the MENU options as well as the settings for the CONFIG options without going through the front panel display and writing them all down.

The reason is to be able to make the same settings on another K3s, again without having to sit and go through the settings one by one and write them down. I did use the K3s utility to make a configuration file and saved it but if I try to look at the file, I get what looks like gibberish and it is not easily interpreted. Maybe there is another program that can make the configuration file readable?

Am I missing an easy way to do this? Is there something I have not found in the utility program that will do this? Is it possible to list the settings at all, other than the front panel?

Thanks for the help.

73,

Bob

AD7Z

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Re: Possibly dumb question...

Kev Schache
See page 45 and 46 Win4k3Suite Manual,

Kev, VK5KS


On 01-Apr-19 10:33 AM, Mark Musick wrote:

> Well, wait long enough or take to long thinking about it and someone who really knows the answer I gave will pop in and say "Yes, you can do that" before you do. HI
> Thanks Jim.
> I was pretty sure we could do that with Win4K3Suite.
> Have you done it?
>
> Mark, WB9CIF
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Jim N7US
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 22:54
> To: 'B.' <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Possibly dumb question...
>
> VA2FSQ's Win4K3Suite can do that.  https://va2fsq.com/
>
> Jim N7US
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> Hi Folks,
>
>  
> I have been trying to find a way to "dump" or list out all the settings in my K3s for the MENU options as well as the settings for the CONFIG options without going through the front panel display and writing them all down.
>
> The reason is to be able to make the same settings on another K3s, again without having to sit and go through the settings one by one and write them down. I did use the K3s utility to make a configuration file and saved it but if I try to look at the file, I get what looks like gibberish and it is not easily interpreted. Maybe there is another program that can make the configuration file readable?
>
> Am I missing an easy way to do this? Is there something I have not found in the utility program that will do this? Is it possible to list the settings at all, other than the front panel?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> 73,
>
> Bob
>
> AD7Z
>
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Re: Possibly dumb question...

N7US
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Win4K3Suite saves the configuration to an .XML file.  I don't know if it can
be loaded on a different radio or not.  The items populate a screen, so a
screenshot could be saved as well.

I opened the .XML file as a table in Excel, but the screenshot would be more
usable/readable as it has configuration items from the K3 programmer's
manual.

Jim N7US

-----Original Message-----


Well, wait long enough or take to long thinking about it and someone who
really knows the answer I gave will pop in and say "Yes, you can do that"
before you do. HI Thanks Jim.
I was pretty sure we could do that with Win4K3Suite.
Have you done it?

Mark, WB9CIF

-----Original Message-----

VA2FSQ's Win4K3Suite can do that.  https://va2fsq.com/ 

Jim N7US

-----Original Message-----


Hi Folks,

 
I have been trying to find a way to "dump" or list out all the settings in
my K3s for the MENU options as well as the settings for the CONFIG options
without going through the front panel display and writing them all down.

The reason is to be able to make the same settings on another K3s, again
without having to sit and go through the settings one by one and write them
down. I did use the K3s utility to make a configuration file and saved it
but if I try to look at the file, I get what looks like gibberish and it is
not easily interpreted. Maybe there is another program that can make the
configuration file readable?

Am I missing an easy way to do this? Is there something I have not found in
the utility program that will do this? Is it possible to list the settings
at all, other than the front panel?

Thanks for the help.

73,

Bob

AD7Z

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Re: Possibly dumb question...

Nr4c
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No way to do this. Sorry.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Mar 31, 2019, at 5:56 PM, B. <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
>
>
> I have been trying to find a way to "dump" or list out all the settings in
> my K3s for the MENU options as well as the settings for the CONFIG options
> without going through the front panel display and writing them all down.
>
>
>
> The reason is to be able to make the same settings on another K3s, again
> without having to sit and go through the settings one by one and write them
> down. I did use the K3s utility to make a configuration file and saved it
> but if I try to look at the file, I get what looks like gibberish and it is
> not easily interpreted. Maybe there is another program that can make the
> configuration file readable?
>
>
>
> Am I missing an easy way to do this? Is there something I have not found in
> the utility program that will do this? Is it possible to list the settings
> at all, other than the front panel?
>
>
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> 73,
>
> Bob
>
> AD7Z
>
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Re: Possibly dumb question...

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
I understand the configuration file saved by the K3 Utility is
serialized for the specific radio.  To load or restore, the serial
number in the file must match the serial number embedded in the radio.

73

Bob, K4TAX



On 3/31/2019 8:08 PM, Nr4c wrote:

> No way to do this. Sorry.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Mar 31, 2019, at 5:56 PM, B. <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have been trying to find a way to "dump" or list out all the settings in
>> my K3s for the MENU options as well as the settings for the CONFIG options
>> without going through the front panel display and writing them all down.
>>
>>
>>
>> The reason is to be able to make the same settings on another K3s, again
>> without having to sit and go through the settings one by one and write them
>> down. I did use the K3s utility to make a configuration file and saved it
>> but if I try to look at the file, I get what looks like gibberish and it is
>> not easily interpreted. Maybe there is another program that can make the
>> configuration file readable?
>>
>>
>>
>> Am I missing an easy way to do this? Is there something I have not found in
>> the utility program that will do this? Is it possible to list the settings
>> at all, other than the front panel?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the help.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> AD7Z
>>
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Re: Possibly dumb question...

Dick Dickinson
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K3_EZ might do the trick, but I can't get it to install anymore.

 

 

Dick - KA5KKT

 

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