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Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ

Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

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Early alert for our Elecraft list readers:

We're finally implementing the planned price changes that we first mentioned
late last year. We ended up delaying that change due to both the large holiday
season order rush and several ham shows, both of which always generate a lot of
sales sales activity and keep our sales team very busy.

As noted before, our costs are going up as our vendors increase their prices to
us and our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending battle to keep costs
down as economic activity has picked up the last two years.) We've been
absorbing all of these increases, but now we have hit the point where we must
increase prices slightly on a number of our products.

The prices will change on next Thursday, Feb. 4th. Our on-line order forms will
update with the new pricing at that time.

Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people about which
specific products will be changing or how much the changes will be, as they do
not have this information. (We're still in the middle getting everything entered.)

Of course, all orders received -prior- to the Feb 4th increase will be charged
at the lower pre-increase pricing when they ship.

73,
Eric
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Barry Baines

Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

Eric:

I presume this means that the new prices will be in effect at the Orlando Hamcation-ARRL National Convention (12-14 FEB)?

Guess I better decide before 4 FEB rather than at Orlando…

73,

Barry
WD4ASW

> On Jan 27, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Early alert for our Elecraft list readers:
>
> We're finally implementing the planned price changes that we first mentioned late last year. We ended up delaying that change due to both the large holiday season order rush and several ham shows, both of which always generate a lot of sales sales activity and keep our sales team very busy.
>
> As noted before, our costs are going up as our vendors increase their prices to us and our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending battle to keep costs down as economic activity has picked up the last two years.) We've been absorbing all of these increases, but now we have hit the point where we must increase prices slightly on a number of our products.
>
> The prices will change on next Thursday, Feb. 4th. Our on-line order forms will update with the new pricing at that time.
>
> Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people about which specific products will be changing or how much the changes will be, as they do not have this information. (We're still in the middle getting everything entered.)
>
> Of course, all orders received -prior- to the Feb 4th increase will be charged at the lower pre-increase pricing when they ship.
>
> 73,
> Eric
> /elecraft.com/
>
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Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ

Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

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Yes, that is correct.

Eric
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On 1/28/2016 7:24 AM, Barry Baines wrote:

> Eric:
>
> I presume this means that the new prices will be in effect at the Orlando Hamcation-ARRL National Convention (12-14 FEB)?
>
> Guess I better decide before 4 FEB rather than at Orlando…
>
> 73,
>
> Barry
> WD4ASW
>
>
>
>> On Jan 27, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Early alert for our Elecraft list readers:
>>
>> We're finally implementing the planned price changes that we first mentioned late last year. We ended up delaying that change due to both the large holiday season order rush and several ham shows, both of which always generate a lot of sales sales activity and keep our sales team very busy.
>>
>> As noted before, our costs are going up as our vendors increase their prices to us and our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending battle to keep costs down as economic activity has picked up the last two years.) We've been absorbing all of these increases, but now we have hit the point where we must increase prices slightly on a number of our products.
>>
>> The prices will change on next Thursday, Feb. 4th. Our on-line order forms will update with the new pricing at that time.
>>
>> Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people about which specific products will be changing or how much the changes will be, as they do not have this information. (We're still in the middle getting everything entered.)
>>
>> Of course, all orders received -prior- to the Feb 4th increase will be charged at the lower pre-increase pricing when they ship.
>>
>> 73,
>> Eric
>> /elecraft.com/
>>
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Phil Hystad-3

Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

But, will there be a show discount at Orlando. Actually, I am not going but I am curious.

73, phil, K7PEH

> On Jan 28, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Yes, that is correct.
>
> Eric
> /elecraft.com/
>
> On 1/28/2016 7:24 AM, Barry Baines wrote:
>> Eric:
>>
>> I presume this means that the new prices will be in effect at the Orlando Hamcation-ARRL National Convention (12-14 FEB)?
>>
>> Guess I better decide before 4 FEB rather than at Orlando…
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Barry
>> WD4ASW
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 27, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Early alert for our Elecraft list readers:
>>>
>>> We're finally implementing the planned price changes that we first mentioned late last year. We ended up delaying that change due to both the large holiday season order rush and several ham shows, both of which always generate a lot of sales sales activity and keep our sales team very busy.
>>>
>>> As noted before, our costs are going up as our vendors increase their prices to us and our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending battle to keep costs down as economic activity has picked up the last two years.) We've been absorbing all of these increases, but now we have hit the point where we must increase prices slightly on a number of our products.
>>>
>>> The prices will change on next Thursday, Feb. 4th. Our on-line order forms will update with the new pricing at that time.
>>>
>>> Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people about which specific products will be changing or how much the changes will be, as they do not have this information. (We're still in the middle getting everything entered.)
>>>
>>> Of course, all orders received -prior- to the Feb 4th increase will be charged at the lower pre-increase pricing when they ship.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Eric
>>> /elecraft.com/
>>>
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Clay Autery

Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

In reply to this post by Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ

OK... so I don't have time to complete my stack of cash for my K-Line
order... I've paired it back. Anyone interested in offering me a
second pair of eyes to see if I am making any glaring mistakes in
spec'ing out my reduced order?

Here's a link to a screen shot of my shopping cart:

*http://www.montac.com/pics/Elecraft_Draft_Order.jpg
*
Here's the Executive summary:
K3S/100K Transceiver with 100 Watt amp module
KRX3A-K Secondary Receiver
KAT3A-K Internal Antenna tuner
MH-2 Hand Mic
SS30DV Power Supply

And here's the filters I am going to end up with:
FL1 - Reserved for FM/Reserved for FM
FL2 - KFL3A-6K/KFL3A-6K (AM/eSSB)
FL3 - KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw/KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw (trade-up to 2.8kHz/8-pole on
both receivers)
FL4 - KFL3A-400/KFL3A-400 (CW... yes, this "no-code" is diligently
working to achieve 25wpm before the end of summer)
FL5 - KFL3A-250/KFL3A-250 (CW)

Lot's of other stuff I'd LIKE to have, but just can't do it. Anyone
think I should do anything different? I'm kind of capped right around
this total.

Thanks

______________________
Clay Autery
MONTAC Enterprises
(318) 518-1389

On 1/27/2016 5:02 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

> Early alert for our Elecraft list readers:
>
> We're finally implementing the planned price changes that we first
> mentioned late last year. We ended up delaying that change due to both
> the large holiday season order rush and several ham shows, both of
> which always generate a lot of sales sales activity and keep our sales
> team very busy.
>
> As noted before, our costs are going up as our vendors increase their
> prices to us and our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending
> battle to keep costs down as economic activity has picked up the last
> two years.) We've been absorbing all of these increases, but now we
> have hit the point where we must increase prices slightly on a number
> of our products.
>
> The prices will change on next Thursday, Feb. 4th. Our on-line order
> forms will update with the new pricing at that time.
>
> Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people
> about which specific products will be changing or how much the changes
> will be, as they do not have this information. (We're still in the
> middle getting everything entered.)
>
> Of course, all orders received -prior- to the Feb 4th increase will be
> charged at the lower pre-increase pricing when they ship.
>
> 73,
> Eric
> /elecraft.com/

N1EU

Re: Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

I question the need for both cw filters. These are just roofing filters,
to attenuate s9+ signals and not overload the ADC - almost all the
filtering function is done by DSP. In fact, unless you operate on crowded
bands with big signals, you don't need a narrow roofing filter. If unsure,
just get the wider cw filter.

Barry N1EU

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Clay Autery <[hidden email]> wrote:

> OK... so I don't have time to complete my stack of cash for my K-Line
> order... I've paired it back. Anyone interested in offering me a
> second pair of eyes to see if I am making any glaring mistakes in
> spec'ing out my reduced order?
>
> Here's a link to a screen shot of my shopping cart:
>
> *http://www.montac.com/pics/Elecraft_Draft_Order.jpg
> *
> Here's the Executive summary:
> K3S/100K Transceiver with 100 Watt amp module
> KRX3A-K Secondary Receiver
> KAT3A-K Internal Antenna tuner
> MH-2 Hand Mic
> SS30DV Power Supply
>
> And here's the filters I am going to end up with:
> FL1 - Reserved for FM/Reserved for FM
> FL2 - KFL3A-6K/KFL3A-6K (AM/eSSB)
> FL3 - KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw/KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw (trade-up to 2.8kHz/8-pole on
> both receivers)
> FL4 - KFL3A-400/KFL3A-400 (CW... yes, this "no-code" is diligently
> working to achieve 25wpm before the end of summer)
> FL5 - KFL3A-250/KFL3A-250 (CW)
>
> Lot's of other stuff I'd LIKE to have, but just can't do it. Anyone
> think I should do anything different? I'm kind of capped right around
> this total.
>
> Thanks
>
> ______________________
> Clay Autery
> MONTAC Enterprises
> (318) 518-1389
>
> On 1/27/2016 5:02 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
> > Early alert for our Elecraft list readers:
> >
> > We're finally implementing the planned price changes that we first
> > mentioned late last year. We ended up delaying that change due to both
> > the large holiday season order rush and several ham shows, both of
> > which always generate a lot of sales sales activity and keep our sales
> > team very busy.
> >
> > As noted before, our costs are going up as our vendors increase their
> > prices to us and our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending
> > battle to keep costs down as economic activity has picked up the last
> > two years.) We've been absorbing all of these increases, but now we
> > have hit the point where we must increase prices slightly on a number
> > of our products.
> >
> > The prices will change on next Thursday, Feb. 4th. Our on-line order
> > forms will update with the new pricing at that time.
> >
> > Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people
> > about which specific products will be changing or how much the changes
> > will be, as they do not have this information. (We're still in the
> > middle getting everything entered.)
> >
> > Of course, all orders received -prior- to the Feb 4th increase will be
> > charged at the lower pre-increase pricing when they ship.
> >
> > 73,
> > Eric
> > /elecraft.com/
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Art Hejduk

Re: Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

In reply to this post by Clay Autery

Clay,

The FM filter will work for both AM and FM. That's what I chose. Also, I
would (did) just get the 400Hz CW filter.

73,
Art WB8ENE

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Clay Autery <[hidden email]> wrote:

Michael Murphy

Re: Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

In reply to this post by Clay Autery

When I ordered my K3 13 months ago, I spent time talking it through with
one of the guys at Elecraft. I considered swapping the 2.7 for the 2.8
filter, but didn't. Now I don't see a reason to and am glad I didn't
bother.

As for the 250 CW filter, I do contest, but have used it maybe once or
twice since I've had the radio. If I had it to do over again, I would have
stopped at the 400hz filter.

Mike - KI8R

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Clay Autery <[hidden email]> wrote:

Bill Parris

Re: Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

I agree .... I contest a lot, but seldom use the 250. If I were on the
other side of the pileup it would probably be a good idea.

Bill, AA4R

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Murphy
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 2:43 PM
To: Clay Autery
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase
Alert for Feb 4th.

When I ordered my K3 13 months ago, I spent time talking it through with
one of the guys at Elecraft. I considered swapping the 2.7 for the 2.8
filter, but didn't. Now I don't see a reason to and am glad I didn't
bother.

As for the 250 CW filter, I do contest, but have used it maybe once or
twice since I've had the radio. If I had it to do over again, I would have
stopped at the 400hz filter.

Mike - KI8R

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Clay Autery <[hidden email]> wrote:

--
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*Michael Murphy - KI8R*

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www.ki8r.com

*614-371-8265 (cell)*

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EUGENE GABRY

Re: Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

When I am running in a contest, the 400hz filter is perfect to be able to catch callers calling above and below my call freq. But, when I S&P or am trying to work a Dxpedition station, I am glad I have the 250hz filter, especially for a DXpedition. I will also then typically use additional DSP filter to tighten down to 150hz. This really helps especially when the frequency cops get going, as most of them will be outside of that narrow of a passband. I'm glad I went with the tighter filter for this purpose.

Gene N9TF

----- Original Message -----

From: "Bill Parris" <[hidden email]>
To: "Michael Murphy" <[hidden email]>, "Clay Autery" <[hidden email]>
Cc: [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 2:53:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

I agree .... I contest a lot, but seldom use the 250. If I were on the
other side of the pileup it would probably be a good idea.

Bill, AA4R

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Murphy
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 2:43 PM
To: Clay Autery
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase
Alert for Feb 4th.

When I ordered my K3 13 months ago, I spent time talking it through with
one of the guys at Elecraft. I considered swapping the 2.7 for the 2.8
filter, but didn't. Now I don't see a reason to and am glad I didn't
bother.

As for the 250 CW filter, I do contest, but have used it maybe once or
twice since I've had the radio. If I had it to do over again, I would have
stopped at the 400hz filter.

Mike - KI8R

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Clay Autery <[hidden email]> wrote:

Igor Sokolov-2

Re: Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

In reply to this post by Clay Autery

Clay,
I would give up so many filter leaving only both stock SSB in both RX and
adding 400Hz CW for the main RX.
If you are into contesting or DXing I would rather swap hand mike for Heil
IC headset.
If you are into Digi I would order KTCXO3
All the rest can be added later.

73, Igor UA9CDC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clay Autery" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 12:04 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase
Alert for Feb 4th.

> OK... so I don't have time to complete my stack of cash for my K-Line
> order... I've paired it back. Anyone interested in offering me a
> second pair of eyes to see if I am making any glaring mistakes in
> spec'ing out my reduced order?
>
> Here's a link to a screen shot of my shopping cart:
>
> *http://www.montac.com/pics/Elecraft_Draft_Order.jpg
> *
> Here's the Executive summary:
> K3S/100K Transceiver with 100 Watt amp module
> KRX3A-K Secondary Receiver
> KAT3A-K Internal Antenna tuner
> MH-2 Hand Mic
> SS30DV Power Supply
>
> And here's the filters I am going to end up with:
> FL1 - Reserved for FM/Reserved for FM
> FL2 - KFL3A-6K/KFL3A-6K (AM/eSSB)
> FL3 - KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw/KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw (trade-up to 2.8kHz/8-pole on
> both receivers)
> FL4 - KFL3A-400/KFL3A-400 (CW... yes, this "no-code" is diligently
> working to achieve 25wpm before the end of summer)
> FL5 - KFL3A-250/KFL3A-250 (CW)
>
> Lot's of other stuff I'd LIKE to have, but just can't do it. Anyone
> think I should do anything different? I'm kind of capped right around
> this total.
>
> Thanks
>
> ______________________
> Clay Autery
> MONTAC Enterprises
> (318) 518-1389
>
> On 1/27/2016 5:02 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
>> Early alert for our Elecraft list readers:
>>
>> We're finally implementing the planned price changes that we first
>> mentioned late last year. We ended up delaying that change due to both
>> the large holiday season order rush and several ham shows, both of
>> which always generate a lot of sales sales activity and keep our sales
>> team very busy.
>>
>> As noted before, our costs are going up as our vendors increase their
>> prices to us and our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending
>> battle to keep costs down as economic activity has picked up the last
>> two years.) We've been absorbing all of these increases, but now we
>> have hit the point where we must increase prices slightly on a number
>> of our products.
>>
>> The prices will change on next Thursday, Feb. 4th. Our on-line order
>> forms will update with the new pricing at that time.
>>
>> Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people
>> about which specific products will be changing or how much the changes
>> will be, as they do not have this information. (We're still in the
>> middle getting everything entered.)
>>
>> Of course, all orders received -prior- to the Feb 4th increase will be
>> charged at the lower pre-increase pricing when they ship.
>>
>> 73,
>> Eric
>> /elecraft.com/
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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

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> FL1 - Reserved for FM/Reserved for FM
> FL2 - KFL3A-6K/KFL3A-6K (AM/eSSB)

I would not bother with the KFL3A-6K .. go with the KFL3A-FM for
both FM and AM. There is no downside to using the FM filter for
AM or ESSB transmit (if you ever do).

> FL3 - KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw/KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw (trade-up to 2.8kHz/8-pole on
> both receivers)

Don't bother, you will not see the difference and the new firmware will
allow using filters with different offsets when you use diversity
reception.

> FL4 - KFL3A-400/KFL3A-400 (CW... yes, this "no-code" is diligently
> working to achieve 25wpm before the end of summer)
> FL5 - KFL3A-250/KFL3A-250 (CW)

The difference in bandwidth between KFL43A-400 (435 Hz @ -6dB) and
KFL3A-250 (370 Hz @ -6dB) does not justify having both. Save up for
the Elecraft 200 Hz filter if/when it becomes available again or get
a wider filter (Inrad 500 Hz or 700 Hz) if you want.

Although I would not start out with a "full" set of filters in both
Main/Sub RX, my recommendation would be:

FL1: KFL3B-FM/KFL3B-FM
FL2: Standard/Standard (2.7 KHz)
FL3: KFL3A-1.8 or KFL3A-2.1/KFL3A-1.8 or KFL3A-2.1
FL4: KFL34A-400/KFL3A-400
FL5: KFL3A-200/KFL3A-200 (when available)

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 1/28/2016 2:04 PM, Clay Autery wrote:

> OK... so I don't have time to complete my stack of cash for my K-Line
> order... I've paired it back. Anyone interested in offering me a
> second pair of eyes to see if I am making any glaring mistakes in
> spec'ing out my reduced order?
>
> Here's a link to a screen shot of my shopping cart:
>
> *http://www.montac.com/pics/Elecraft_Draft_Order.jpg
> *
> Here's the Executive summary:
> K3S/100K Transceiver with 100 Watt amp module
> KRX3A-K Secondary Receiver
> KAT3A-K Internal Antenna tuner
> MH-2 Hand Mic
> SS30DV Power Supply
>
> And here's the filters I am going to end up with:
> FL1 - Reserved for FM/Reserved for FM
> FL2 - KFL3A-6K/KFL3A-6K (AM/eSSB)
> FL3 - KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw/KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw (trade-up to 2.8kHz/8-pole on
> both receivers)
> FL4 - KFL3A-400/KFL3A-400 (CW... yes, this "no-code" is diligently
> working to achieve 25wpm before the end of summer)
> FL5 - KFL3A-250/KFL3A-250 (CW)
>
> Lot's of other stuff I'd LIKE to have, but just can't do it. Anyone
> think I should do anything different? I'm kind of capped right around
> this total.
>
> Thanks
>
> ______________________
> Clay Autery
> MONTAC Enterprises
> (318) 518-1389
>
> On 1/27/2016 5:02 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
>> Early alert for our Elecraft list readers:
>>
>> We're finally implementing the planned price changes that we first
>> mentioned late last year. We ended up delaying that change due to both
>> the large holiday season order rush and several ham shows, both of
>> which always generate a lot of sales sales activity and keep our sales
>> team very busy.
>>
>> As noted before, our costs are going up as our vendors increase their
>> prices to us and our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending
>> battle to keep costs down as economic activity has picked up the last
>> two years.) We've been absorbing all of these increases, but now we
>> have hit the point where we must increase prices slightly on a number
>> of our products.
>>
>> The prices will change on next Thursday, Feb. 4th. Our on-line order
>> forms will update with the new pricing at that time.
>>
>> Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people
>> about which specific products will be changing or how much the changes
>> will be, as they do not have this information. (We're still in the
>> middle getting everything entered.)
>>
>> Of course, all orders received -prior- to the Feb 4th increase will be
>> charged at the lower pre-increase pricing when they ship.
>>
>> 73,
>> Eric
>> /elecraft.com/
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Re: Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

I like Joe's list of filters in general. But if money is tight,
I would only get the standard 2.7 filters. Filters are easy to
add later, and the DSP filtering is quite good unless you have
really strong nearby stations and are trying to pick a weak
signal out of the noise.

The kit form is a good choice for saving some money. They are
easy to build, unless you have serious physical or visual problems.

I have the 250 Hz filters which I use to handle nearby high
power (50+ watts) PSK signals. I also use them on CW, although
if I am trying to pull something like VP6STI out of the noise,
I'll narrow the DSP down to 50Hz to eliminate as much band noise
as I can. The narrower crystal filters can help keep the pileup
and the up cops out of the receive bandpass which avoids having
the AGC make the DX disappear.

I, along with lots of others here, use the Yamaha CM-500
headphones for voice modes. There are some cheaper headsets
which have also received good reports here on the reflector.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 1/28/16 at 1:29 PM, [hidden email] (Joe Subich, W4TV) wrote:

>FL1: KFL3B-FM/KFL3B-FM
>FL2: Standard/Standard (2.7 KHz)
>FL3: KFL3A-1.8 or KFL3A-2.1/KFL3A-1.8 or KFL3A-2.1
>FL4: KFL34A-400/KFL3A-400
>FL5: KFL3A-200/KFL3A-200 (when available)
>
>
>On 1/28/2016 2:04 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>>OK... so I don't have time to complete my stack of cash for my K-Line
>>order... I've paired it back. Anyone interested in offering me a
>>second pair of eyes to see if I am making any glaring mistakes in
>>spec'ing out my reduced order?

...
>>*
>>Here's the Executive summary:
>>K3S/100K Transceiver with 100 Watt amp module
>>KRX3A-K Secondary Receiver
>>KAT3A-K Internal Antenna tuner
>>MH-2 Hand Mic
>>SS30DV Power Supply
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Re: Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

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Clay,
If you are a bit strapped for cash (or just want to wait and see what you REALLY need), rather than a full house of filters, I would put my available funds on other "STUFF". Remember, the filters are ROOFING filters, the DSP filter is the work horse for narrowing the passband.
First thing you have to decide is what type of operator you are; and then decide what you need (for instance, if you are not a DXer or contester, the sub receiver is most likely not necessary). As for myself, I consider myself a "upper middle gun" DXer (top of the honor roll on SSB/Mixed and two short on CW - P5 and 3Y0B), and I have the sub receiver, Ant Tuner, KDVR3, and KTCXO-3.
As for filters, I have the 6.0 KHz, 2.7 KHz, 1.8 KHz, 400 Hz, and the 200 Hz filters in both the main and sub receivers. To be honest with you, I have not found much use for the 6.0, 1.8, or 200 Hz ones (probably count on one hand the times I have used them). I find the DVR very useful in recording my contacts (especially the ESP ones!) and being able to sit back and listen to the contact and make sure it was a good one. If you are into digital modes, he high stability osc is nice option. I would forget about the MH-2 (unless you are making up an ARES GO Kit), and spend your money you save on that and un-necessary roofing filters on a Heil Pro 7 and/or a Heil PR-10 desk mic.
If you find you are in dire need of additional ROOFING Filters, you can always add them later. Or if you plan on operating FM (which I do not), the FM filter might be a good option right now. If you are a "top dog" contester where you have a lot of strong stations near by, an additional roofing filter might be in the cards; but I will defer addressing that need to an experienced contester.
Dick, K8ZTT

From: Clay Autery <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:04 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

OK... so I don't have time to complete my stack of cash for my K-Line
order... I've paired it back. Anyone interested in offering me a
second pair of eyes to see if I am making any glaring mistakes in
spec'ing out my reduced order?

Here's a link to a screen shot of my shopping cart:

*http://www.montac.com/pics/Elecraft_Draft_Order.jpg
*
Here's the Executive summary:
K3S/100K Transceiver with 100 Watt amp module
KRX3A-K Secondary Receiver
KAT3A-K Internal Antenna tuner
MH-2 Hand Mic
SS30DV Power Supply

And here's the filters I am going to end up with:
FL1 - Reserved for FM/Reserved for FM
FL2 - KFL3A-6K/KFL3A-6K (AM/eSSB)
FL3 - KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw/KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw (trade-up to 2.8kHz/8-pole on
both receivers)
FL4 - KFL3A-400/KFL3A-400 (CW... yes, this "no-code" is diligently
working to achieve 25wpm before the end of summer)
FL5 - KFL3A-250/KFL3A-250 (CW)

Lot's of other stuff I'd LIKE to have, but just can't do it. Anyone
think I should do anything different? I'm kind of capped right around
this total.

Thanks

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Re: Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

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On Thu,1/28/2016 11:04 AM, Clay Autery wrote:

Waste of money. Go with a Yamaha CM500 or Koss SB-45 headset with boom
mic. Both are comfortable, and both headphones and mic sound great.

> SS30DV Power Supply

Any regulated PSU that will do 20A at 13.8V is fine.

> And here's the filters I am going to end up with:
> FL1 - Reserved for FM/Reserved for FM
> FL2 - KFL3A-6K/KFL3A-6K (AM/eSSB)

I would put off buying a 6 kHz filter until you know you need it. The K3
is sufficiently stable that AM sounds quite good with SSB decoding.

> FL3 - KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw/KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw (trade-up to 2.8kHz/8-pole on
> both receivers)

Definitely NOT on the 2nd RX. The virtue of the 2.8 kHz filter is less
ripple in the passband, which results in a bit less incidental AM in
RTTY mode. That only matters in the main board. And when we run
diversity, it's usually to pull out super weak CW signals, so I wouldn't
worry about matching between RX for that one.

> FL4 - KFL3A-400/KFL3A-400 (CW... yes, this "no-code" is diligently
> working to achieve 25wpm before the end of summer)
> FL5 - KFL3A-250/KFL3A-250 (CW)

As others have observed, remember that these are ROOFING filters, whose
function is to protect the DSP from super-strong signals outside the
passband. Primary IF filtering is provided in DSP. The two filters do,
of course, cascade when they are nearly the same bandwidth, resulting in
steeper skirts.

400 Hz is the desired bandwidth for RTTY because it has less phase shift
in the passband than a narrower filter. It's also a good CW filter. BUT
-- I am a very active contester and DXer, and I mostly use the 250 Hz
filter, and that's the one that I have in both RX.

You also want the KXV3B if it's not stock with the radio, both because
it gives you the preamp for 6/10/12M, and a patch point for the RX
signal path.

73, Jim K9YC

73

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On Thu,1/28/2016 2:50 PM, RIchard Williams via Elecraft wrote:
> Heil Pro 7 and/or a Heil PR-10 desk mic

Wildly over-priced and over-hyped. The Yamaha CM500 and Koss SB-45 sound
better and more comfortable than the Heil headset at a tiny fraction of
the cost.

73, Jim K9YC
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I cannot express how thankful I am for the overwhelming and helpful
response to my inquiry.
Between y'all and David, Elecraft support, I think we have a pretty good
plan in the works.

Now I have to go do my reading homework. ;)

You all have a great evening!

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Re: Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

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On 1/28/2016 5:42 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
> I like Joe's list of filters in general. But if money is tight, I would
> only get the standard 2.7 filters. Filters are easy to add later, and
> the DSP filtering is quite good unless you have really strong nearby
> stations and are trying to pick a weak signal out of the noise.

I agree with this ... I would start with FM filters (for the ability to
do FM and/or AM), 2.7 KHz filters and the 400 Hz filters. The others
can be added later as funds are available and the need is established.

As to microphones, I would also recommend the Koss SB-45 headset and/or
an inexpensive dynamic "vocal" mic which can often be found for < $25
(e.g. Audio-Technica ATR-1300: $19.42 at B&H Photovideo) - far less
expensive than the overpriced and over-hyped Heil products. Even a
step up to the Shure PGA48 will only set you back $39, half the price
of the Heil HM-12 or one quarter the price of a Heil GM.

Due to the TXEQ in the K3 there will be no difference in a 100 Hz-4 KHz
transmit bandwidth between the inexpensive and heavily promoted mics -
particularly if using VOX or a foot switch.

73,

... Joe, W4TV
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Re: Price Increase Alert (Now Feb 8th)

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In response to numerous requests from customers this week for a little more time to beat the scheduled price changes with their orders, we have moved the date for the changes a few days later to this Monday, Feb 8th.

This should give those who missed the original announcement and everyone else through this weekend time to to place their orders. :-)

(See below for details of the original announcement.)

73,

Eric
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> On Jan 27, 2016, at 3:02 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Early alert for our Elecraft list readers:
>
> We're finally implementing the planned price changes that we first mentioned late last year. We ended up delaying that change due to both the large holiday season order rush and several ham shows, both of which always generate a lot of sales sales activity and keep our sales team very busy.
>
> As noted before, our costs are going up as our vendors increase their prices to us and our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending battle to keep costs down as economic activity has picked up the last two years.) We've been absorbing all of these increases, but now we have hit the point where we must increase prices slightly on a number of our products.
>
> The prices will change on next Thursday, Feb. 4th. Our on-line order forms will update with the new pricing at that time. <edit: now Feb 8th>
>
> Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people about which specific products will be changing or how much the changes will be, as they do not have this information. (We're still in the middle getting everything entered.)
>
> Of course, all orders received -prior- to the increase will be charged at the lower pre-increase pricing when they ship.
>
> 73,
> Eric