Printing manuals
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Unless the commercial folks are "inexpensive" it seems
like there are enough manual updates to make it less-than cost effective to commercially print each version .... I have an HP printer that does color and both sides rather well ... and reasonably fast, too. I'm a 60-mile round trip to a Staples, and at today's fuel prices .... ? Ken Kopp - K0PP [hidden email] or [hidden email] _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Downloadable manuals are fine... a good way to stay up to date. However, it
shouldn't be necessary to download the entire manual every time a change is made. Any change should be in the form of a series of either "added pages".... or "changed pages"...with each page dated and numbered, perhaps with an alpha-numeric system. A page numbering system should be used that allows added or changed pages to be printed and inserted in the user's manual to keep it up-to-date. Changed pages should indicate the page number and date that is being replaced. This may seem cumbersome, but if well executed will result in the user being able to maintain an accurate, constantly updated paper manual. There's no reason why this same system cannot be used to maintain an on-line, downloadable manual.... so a user can choose which system to use. This also enables a paper-manual user to enter the system and download a full-up-to-the-minute manual at any time. Some of us are very uncomfortable without a paper manual and are willing to do the work necessary to keep one updated. Others can happily live with an on-line manual. Both deserve to be served, and can be..... if Elecraft uses a well-designed page numbering system. 73, Jerry K3BZ (the above didn't go through the first time, so am repeatinmg it here) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Kopp" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 5:46 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Printing manuals > Unless the commercial folks are "inexpensive" it seems > like there are enough manual updates to make it less-than > cost effective to commercially print each version .... > > I have an HP printer that does color and both sides rather > well ... and reasonably fast, too. I'm a 60-mile round trip > to a Staples, and at today's fuel prices .... ? > > Ken Kopp - K0PP > [hidden email] > or > [hidden email] > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: Printing manuals
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I'd be pleased to just get the diffs between manual revisions.
73, doug From: "Jerry Keller (K3BZ)" <[hidden email]> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 14:49:30 -0400 Downloadable manuals are fine... a good way to stay up to date. However, it shouldn't be necessary to download the entire manual every time a change is made. Any change should be in the form of a series of either "added pages".... or "changed pages"...with each page dated and numbered, perhaps with an alpha-numeric system. A page numbering system should be used that allows added or changed pages to be printed and inserted in the user's manual to keep it up-to-date. Changed pages should indicate the page number and date that is being replaced. This may seem cumbersome, but if well executed will result in the user being able to maintain an accurate, constantly updated paper manual. There's no reason why this same system cannot be used to maintain an on-line, downloadable manual.... so a user can choose which system to use. This also enables a paper-manual user to enter the system and download a full-up-to-the-minute manual at any time. Some of us are very uncomfortable without a paper manual and are willing to do the work necessary to keep one updated. Others can happily live with an on-line manual. Both deserve to be served, and can be..... if Elecraft uses a well-designed page numbering system. 73, Jerry K3BZ (the above didn't go through the first time, so am repeatinmg it here) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Kopp" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 5:46 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Printing manuals > Unless the commercial folks are "inexpensive" it seems > like there are enough manual updates to make it less-than > cost effective to commercially print each version .... > > I have an HP printer that does color and both sides rather > well ... and reasonably fast, too. I'm a 60-mile round trip > to a Staples, and at today's fuel prices .... ? > > Ken Kopp - K0PP > [hidden email] > or > [hidden email] > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Jerry Keller (K3BZ)
On Sun, 9 Mar 2008, Jerry Keller (K3BZ) wrote:
> > There's no reason why this same system cannot be used to maintain an > on-line, downloadable manual.... Not sure how one would do it with Adobe.....unless you had individual pdf files for each page...which could be yet another nightmare. One way would to have an online database with the manual pages as entries. Thus one could download the entire set or request pages that are newer than some specified date. if Elecraft uses a well-designed page numbering system. I suspect they are too busy designing and producting radios to take that type of task on.... 73 k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Thom LaCosta wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Mar 2008, Jerry Keller (K3BZ) wrote: >> >> There's no reason why this same system cannot be used to maintain an >> on-line, downloadable manual.... > > Not sure how one would do it with Adobe.....unless you had individual > pdf files for each page...which could be yet another nightmare. Actually, PDF has a way of doing that to the electronic form of the document, but I'm not aware of seeing it being used in anger and I don't think the (free) reader has a way of identifying and just printing the updated pages. Basically, the key to the contents of a PDF document is at the end of the file, so you can substitute, add or delete pages, by simply appending to the file. The mechanism could also update smaller units, or do a Tipp-Ex (Snopake) job to overwrite a small bit of the text. It even includes revision numbers for the components. The real problem is that PDF files are created from revisable form documents and the typical revisable form document format, e.g. Word, is not designed for documents which have to maintained like hand typed paper masters, partly because they were selling themselves on the abilitty to always create an optimum layout, rather than having to compromise to minimise updates. > Another factor is marketing, documents with variable length pages and space reserved on pages for updates, and with sub-page numbers don't look as good as a document with simple pages numbers and even length pages, and the reason for the difference is a post-sales one. -- David Woolley "The Elecraft list is a forum for the discussion of topics related to Elecraft products and more general topics related ham radio" List Guidelines <http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_list_guidelines.htm> _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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