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Problems = Alignment Part III K2 #4993

nz8j
Well, everything went fairly well up to the part III alignment.  I was able
to get slightly over 2 watts during the first few steps of the alignment.
However during the next steps, I get higher current than I should, and the
max out is about 5.5 watts even with the current cal set to 3.5 amps.

3 watts = 1.1 amp
4 watts = 1.8 amps
5 watts = 2.4 amps

I have checked and swapped power supplies, changed power cords, and set
current cal to 3.5 amps, but the max output seems to be about 5.5 watts. I
get "Hi Current" indication even with the current cal set to 3.5.

I would appreciate any insight, I have visually checked everything  of
course and don't see any obvious problem.. I looked at the troubleshooting
section , but it seems pretty generic, I'm hoping someone might have run
into this problem before and could point me to the right area to check...Any
ideas?

Thanks
Tim
NZ8J




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Re: Problems = Alignment Part III K2 #4993

Rolf Moberg, OH6KXL
NZ8J wrote:

> I have checked and swapped power supplies, changed power cords, and set
> current cal to 3.5 amps, but the max output seems to be about 5.5 watts. I
> get "Hi Current" indication even with the current cal set to 3.5.

What kind of load you are using? Dummy load? Antenna? When using antenna
my K2 doesn't give full output in 24MHz and 21 MHz (due to rf problems,
I believe). When using dummy load, there is no problems.

Rolf
oh6kxl
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Re: Problems = Alignment Part III K2 #4993

Vic K2VCO
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NZ8J wrote:
> Well, everything went fairly well up to the part III alignment.  I was able
> to get slightly over 2 watts during the first few steps of the alignment.
> However during the next steps, I get higher current than I should, and the
> max out is about 5.5 watts even with the current cal set to 3.5 amps.

Make sure that the bandpass filters have been aligned carefully.  Look
at the trimmers; if they are at the limits of capacity (the little metal
dot on the movable part is aligned with the pins), then maybe there's
some problem which is preventing you from adjusting them to resonance.

Make sure that the power supply voltage is not dropping under load.  The
K2 requires a good regulated power supply or well-charged battery, not a
wall wart!

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73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco
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RE: Problems = Alignment Part III K2 #4993

Dan Barker
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I've read several good posts on your issue, but no one has mentioned this.

You report 5 watts at 2.4 amps, and a HIGH-CUR reading. If the current limit
is 3.5 amps, you should get a HIGH-CUR annunciation at 3.5 amps, not at 2.4.

In any post of this nature, the supply voltage will help a lot. A K2 happy
to produce 15W at a reasonable current draw from 13.8 volts is going to be
quite unhappy trying the same trick at 10.2 volts! What is your key-down
voltage, current and power at the point you see the HIGH CUR warning?
(Measure the voltage at the K2, not the supply in case it's a V=IR issue in
the cabling.

How are you measuring power?

What sort of dummy load are you driving?

Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456

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Subject: [Elecraft] Problems = Alignment Part III K2 #4993


Well, everything went fairly well up to the part III alignment.  I was able
to get slightly over 2 watts during the first few steps of the alignment.
However during the next steps, I get higher current than I should, and the
max out is about 5.5 watts even with the current cal set to 3.5 amps.

3 watts = 1.1 amp
4 watts = 1.8 amps
5 watts = 2.4 amps

I have checked and swapped power supplies, changed power cords, and set
current cal to 3.5 amps, but the max output seems to be about 5.5 watts. I
get "Hi Current" indication even with the current cal set to 3.5.

I would appreciate any insight, I have visually checked everything  of
course and don't see any obvious problem.. I looked at the troubleshooting
section , but it seems pretty generic, I'm hoping someone might have run
into this problem before and could point me to the right area to check...Any
ideas?

Thanks
Tim
NZ8J




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Additional info - Problems = Alignment Part III K2 #4993

nz8j
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I aligned the rest of the bandpass filters and took the following readings..

3750 - 2.38 amp
7100 - 2.14 amp
10100 - 1.70 amp
14100 - 1.26 amp
18100 - 1.10 amp
21100 - 1.18 amp
24900 - 1.14 amp
28200 - 1.12 amp

As you can see the higher in frequency, the better the readings are.
However, even on the higher frequencies, the max power output is about 6 to
7 watts....

Thanks
Tim
NZ8J
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Subject: [Elecraft] Problems = Alignment Part III K2 #4993


> Well, everything went fairly well up to the part III alignment.  I was
able

> to get slightly over 2 watts during the first few steps of the alignment.
> However during the next steps, I get higher current than I should, and the
> max out is about 5.5 watts even with the current cal set to 3.5 amps.
>
> 3 watts = 1.1 amp
> 4 watts = 1.8 amps
> 5 watts = 2.4 amps
>
> I have checked and swapped power supplies, changed power cords, and set
> current cal to 3.5 amps, but the max output seems to be about 5.5 watts. I
> get "Hi Current" indication even with the current cal set to 3.5.
>
> I would appreciate any insight, I have visually checked everything  of
> course and don't see any obvious problem.. I looked at the troubleshooting
> section , but it seems pretty generic, I'm hoping someone might have run
> into this problem before and could point me to the right area to
check...Any

> ideas?
>
> Thanks
> Tim
> NZ8J
>
>
>
>
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Re: Additional info - Problems = Alignment Part III K2 #4993

nz8j
Check T4 Gary says... gotta have the correct number of windings.. ok I check
it, double check it. and check it again... the correct number of
windings....all is ok... oops!!!!!! holes 1 and 2 should be green windings
and 3 and 4 should be white, just like I wrote in the book to make sure....
well, guess what, I had them reversed... after a little struggle to take out
T4 and put it in correctly.... everything is fine now.. (at least the
current part is ok)  ..It remains to be seen what else I might have done...
:)

thanks for all the suggestions... T4 and that area was the area most folks
pointed to..

73
Tim
NZ8J
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> I aligned the rest of the bandpass filters and took the following
readings..

>
> 3750 - 2.38 amp
> 7100 - 2.14 amp
> 10100 - 1.70 amp
> 14100 - 1.26 amp
> 18100 - 1.10 amp
> 21100 - 1.18 amp
> 24900 - 1.14 amp
> 28200 - 1.12 amp
>
> As you can see the higher in frequency, the better the readings are.
> However, even on the higher frequencies, the max power output is about 6
to

> 7 watts....
>
> Thanks
> Tim
> NZ8J
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "NZ8J" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 12:17 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] Problems = Alignment Part III K2 #4993
>
>
> > Well, everything went fairly well up to the part III alignment.  I was
> able
> > to get slightly over 2 watts during the first few steps of the
alignment.
> > However during the next steps, I get higher current than I should, and
the
> > max out is about 5.5 watts even with the current cal set to 3.5 amps.
> >
> > 3 watts = 1.1 amp
> > 4 watts = 1.8 amps
> > 5 watts = 2.4 amps
> >
> > I have checked and swapped power supplies, changed power cords, and set
> > current cal to 3.5 amps, but the max output seems to be about 5.5 watts.
I
> > get "Hi Current" indication even with the current cal set to 3.5.
> >
> > I would appreciate any insight, I have visually checked everything  of
> > course and don't see any obvious problem.. I looked at the
troubleshooting

> > section , but it seems pretty generic, I'm hoping someone might have run
> > into this problem before and could point me to the right area to
> check...Any
> > ideas?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Tim
> > NZ8J
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>


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