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Toby Pennington

QRQ Side Effects of QRQ

On 4/12/2014 11:39 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
> How about we all have a little compassion for David and all the others
> like him. This is a hard list to follow, especially if you might not
> be hugely technically knowledgeable.

Perhaps subscribing to the Yahoo Group for Elecraft might be a wiser
choice for getting information for David than this list which is
extremely hard to follow even if you think you know what you're doing.

David, the K3 will be just fine for normal use. You will be happy with
it. It is the best all round cw rig you can buy. I still believe that.

Toby K4NH
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NK7Z

Re: QRQ Side Effects of QRQ

HI Toby,

Thanks for the thought, I think the issue, at least for me, is more one
of inexperience with the K3 than tech knowledge. I used to be Asst
Chief Engineer for a TV station, for around 20 years, and have been a
ham for well on 40 years now... So tech issues don't worry me too much
anymore...

However when I saw a discussion about malformed CW, I wanted to know
why... That did worry me a bit... I have seen many groups who can find
no wrong with a product, even if the product has issues... I was
starting to get the feeling the K3 might be that way... But, from what
I see, it is just that good a rig. When something does come up it is
the oddity, not the norm... I think I was triggering on that... In any
case, no need to worry about me... :) THANKS!

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On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 01:04 -0400, Toby Pennington wrote:

> On 4/12/2014 11:39 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
> > How about we all have a little compassion for David and all the others
> > like him. This is a hard list to follow, especially if you might not
> > be hugely technically knowledgeable.
>
> Perhaps subscribing to the Yahoo Group for Elecraft might be a wiser
> choice for getting information for David than this list which is
> extremely hard to follow even if you think you know what you're doing.
>
> David, the K3 will be just fine for normal use. You will be happy with
> it. It is the best all round cw rig you can buy. I still believe that.
>
> Toby K4NH
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VR2BrettGraham

Re: QRQ Side Effects of QRQ

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NK7Z said:

> However when I saw a discussion about malformed CW, I wanted to know
> why... That did worry me a bit... I have seen many groups who can find
> no wrong with a product, even if the product has issues... I was
> starting to get the feeling the K3 might be that way...

If you don't mind your code element lengths varying by ~10 msec (still
an appreciable quarter of an element at the slow speed of 30 wpm), then
that portion of the Brand-E user community that insists this isn't a
problem are correct.

For everybody else, the solution to the problem (with the radio, not the
user group) is to assert PTT. Then the RF more faithfully follows the
keying.

Yes, you'll have to let off the PTT for the rig to drop into receive,
but since the K3's "QSK" is more of an inter-character - rather than
intra-character - break-in, you literally aren't missing anything.

-ex-VR2BG/p.

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NK7Z

Re: QRQ Side Effects of QRQ

Brett,

Thanks for that bit of info, I had decided I was going to try just that,
your note indicates it will work, so I am a happy camper now.
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Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net
for MixW support see;
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for MM-SSTV see:
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On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 22:29 +0000, Brett Graham wrote:

> NK7Z said:
>
> > However when I saw a discussion about malformed CW, I wanted to know
> > why... That did worry me a bit... I have seen many groups who can find
> > no wrong with a product, even if the product has issues... I was
> > starting to get the feeling the K3 might be that way...
>
> If you don't mind your code element lengths varying by ~10 msec (still
> an appreciable quarter of an element at the slow speed of 30 wpm), then
> that portion of the Brand-E user community that insists this isn't a
> problem are correct.
>
> For everybody else, the solution to the problem (with the radio, not the
> user group) is to assert PTT. Then the RF more faithfully follows the
> keying.
>
> Yes, you'll have to let off the PTT for the rig to drop into receive,
> but since the K3's "QSK" is more of an inter-character - rather than
> intra-character - break-in, you literally aren't missing anything.
>
> -ex-VR2BG/p.
>
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